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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Ambar is right in that the Daily Kos is seriously left-skewed and Huffington Post is uneven in quality at best. I'm not saying they aren't reporting factual things but that skew is reflected in how they present them, with a lot of opinionating, and if you're going to look to them as sources you have to be critical about it.
Washington Post has some left leanings but I can't speak toward their so-called anti-Clinton bias. They get a lot of credit for being one of the first to sound the alarm bells about Donald though.
edited 27th Feb '17 4:11:12 PM by Elle
US 9th Circuit Court of Appeals rejects Justice Departments request to hold the appeal of Trump's Travel Ban EO
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That's the Washington Times, not the Post. They're not the same paper.
edited 27th Feb '17 4:21:48 PM by KarkatTheDalek
Oh God! Natural light!I didn't say all. I said most.
Politicians are well aware of what they're doing. Many Trump supporters aren't.
Well sure, but I don't see any Trump fanboys around here to argue against.
I always vote Democrat, participate and help fund the party.
I know which is why I liked Hillary's platform for guns better than his. She was aggressive on guns and he wasn't because he was paid not to be.
You'd have to define what fringe left wing means because they're just normal left wing to my sensibilities. You'd also have to prove to me why that's a bad thing.
Well it's a good thing I don't follow their articles on health.
Look if you want to know who someone is partially owned by just follow the money.
We have a political climate where it's hard for politicians to succeed without money so they have to compromise themselves in order to receive money.
edited 27th Feb '17 4:24:42 PM by MadSkillz
Apparently white French people are also considered dangerous to the nation's security.
Then again, they're sun-kissed Catholics who let their women sub-bathe topless and drop nude on TV. Can't let them come threatening our values can we?
NYT: French Historian Says He Was Threatened With Deportation at Houston Airport
Mr. Rousso said in a telephone interview on Sunday that he arrived at the George Bush Intercontinental Airport around 2 p.m. Wednesday on a flight from France when immigration authorities began to question his visa and his reason for being in the United States.
Mr. Rousso, an expert on France after the First World War, was scheduled to give a keynote address on Friday afternoon at a conference organized by the Hagler Institute for Advanced Study at Texas A&M University in College Station.
“It would be in no means difficult to look up who he is,” said Jason Mills, an immigration lawyer who helped secure Mr. Rousso’s eventual release. “His reasons for being here were nothing but beneficial to the United States. He is a man of experience and age,” Mr. Mills said. “There is plenty of history there on him. I don’t understand why he would have been in for the several hours that he was. It is a little alarming.”
Mr. Rousso said he was interrogated by Customs and Border Protection officers who told him that he was violating immigration law by using a tourist visa to enter the country to attend the academic conference. He said that at first they denied him entry to the United States, and told him he would be put on the next available flight to Paris.
The academics who had invited Mr. Rousso to speak in Texas became concerned when he failed to meet the driver who had been sent to collect him. They scrambled to alert immigration lawyers, the dean of the law school and Michael Young, the president of Texas A&M University.
The issue, Mr. Rousso said, appeared to be an honorarium of $2,000 that he was being paid to participate in the conference. Such payments are allowed for academics visiting the United States, but Mr. Rousso and those involved in securing his release said the customs agents appeared not to realize that at first.
“With a tourist visa, I’m not allowed to work,” Mr. Rousso said. “This is true — except for scholars.”
The agent who was questioning Mr. Rousso was “concerned that he was giving a lecture and was getting a good stipend to do that,” said Richard J. Golsan, a professor at the university who also had planned to have Mr. Rousso speak to his class last week.
Customs and Border Protection did not respond to a telephone message or email requests for comment on Sunday.
Mr. Mills, an immigration lawyer in Fort Worth, said he received a call from the dean of the law school around 9 p.m. Wednesday. “They were in a bit of a panic,” Mr. Mills said.
He set to work contacting immigration authorities at the Houston airport.
It was after 1 a.m. Thursday when Mr. Rousso was given back his passport and cellphone, taken to a public area of the airport and told he was free to go. He said he was told that the agent who originally held him was “inexperienced.”
He took a taxi to an airport hotel, where he was able to telephone Mr. Golsan, and to continue his journey to the university.
He gave his keynote address, “Writing on the Dark Side of the Recent Past,” as planned on Friday. On Sunday morning, a few hours before he was to board a flight to Paris, Mr. Rousso, 62, said in the telephone interview that he was apprehensive about returning to the airport. He has for 30 years been a regular visitor to the United States, and was unsure when he would return, he said.
“I’m a little bit nervous,” he said. “It’s completely irrational, I know.”
Mr. Mills said the treatment Mr. Rousso experienced was unusual, but representative of a shift in how some border agents are approaching their jobs.
“Now they’re looking really hard for reasons to deny, instead of reasons to admit,” he said.
Mr. Rousso and those who helped him said he was lucky to have been able to reach out to leaders at the university.
“If I had not the possibility to call my friend and then to be in touch with the president, probably I would have been in Paris now after a bit of blurry, strange experience,” he said.
In France, where Mr. Rousso is a well-respected academic, his treatment was met with anger.
Emmanuel Macron, a centrist candidate for France’s presidency, condemned the episode on Sunday on Twitter, saying there was “no excuse” for what happened to Mr. Rousso.
Fatma E. Marouf, a law professor and the director of the Immigrant Rights Clinic in Fort Worth, who helped secure Mr. Rousso’s release, said he benefited from the lessons that immigration lawyers learned in January, after an executive order from President Trump led to chaos at the nation’s borders. “During the airport detentions, we had created a really good rapid-response team of attorneys in Houston and where I am in Dallas-Fort Worth,” she said. “There was already a good team in place.”
Since Mr. Trump took office in January, immigration authorities have engaged in several high-profile actions against immigrants. Sean Spicer, the White House press secretary, said on Tuesday that the president wanted to “take the shackles off” of agents who had, under President Barack Obama, been under orders to focus only on serious criminals.
Apparently giving a "paid speech" as a professor will warrant your deportation nowadays.
Just saw this on my news feed, but without knowing where the National Review figures in terms of bias (though it seems conservative) and my own ignorance on the topic in general, I'm not sure how legit the claims are. Thus, I submit to my more learnéd tropers here to get an idea, an article I found claiming that the Affordable Care Act has not in fact saved lives as its defenders assert, but if I have the gist right, is correlation without causation.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/445260/obamacare-no-lives-saved
EDIT: Braving the comments, there's a suggestion the article misrepresents one of its own cited sources.
edited 27th Feb '17 5:00:13 PM by sgamer82
From my Twitter feed:
- CT special elections for state house/senate are tomorrow. Get out there to the polls if that's your district.
- The Arizona bill that would have effectively criminalized protests has been killed.
If you want to accuse a politician of something, use their stated policy positions and their voting record to back up that assertion, or you're just trying to tarnish them by association.
Of course, you haven't really responded to anything else I've said in the last ten pages or so, so I don't expect you to start now.
Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.The Washington Times, not the Washington Post. The latter is one of the best papers in the country and does an excellent job of controlling its biases. The former is a right-wing paper that approaches being FOX News in written format and should only be purchased if you're short on toilet paper.
What a load of garbage that is. This wasn't dogwhistle racism, it was flatout racism. They all saw it, they all knew what it was, they all went for it anyway.
Prove it. Not even those nonsense articles you've been posting actually back your statement up.
The problem with it being fringe is the problem with all fringe media outlets—they're driven by ideology, not responsible journalsim. They do barely any of their own interviewing and they twist whatever's been said to support a preexisting view of the world. Same as FOX, same as Infowars, etc.
Har har. The point is that the Huffington Post is a wildly uneven news source. About half their articles are great. The other half are trash.
Prove. It. And while you're at it, maybe respond to Jovian
, who has repeatedly addressed some of the points you've raised only to be ignored.
edited 27th Feb '17 5:19:50 PM by AmbarSonofDeshar
I figured as much after I looked around a bit (re: Review). As a rule, I always try to be wary of my news sources since I now the amount of bias can vary wildly. While it's perhaps a bit Golden Mean Fallacy of me, I tend to stick to Politico or Reuters or AP for basic stuff. Maybe get something local to the news being reported if I can, especially if it's cited as the bigger site's source.
One thing I have thought about, though, is finding solid conservative news sources to see which ones, if any, are actively calling Trump out for his fusterclucks.
x13 That's a nice way to treat the people who gave you your independence, the Statue of Liberty and Louisiana...
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I think the closest you're going to find to accurate on the conservative side of things is libertarian sites. Business-oriented publications like Forbes, WSJ and The Economist have a right-lean but only about to the degree that other mainstream news has a left lean.
Also, I've mentioned it before but when I actually want to look for left-slanted think pieces, I like Vox.
edited 27th Feb '17 5:39:28 PM by Elle
We're very aware of racism. Many people aren't.
My family is Hispanic many of them were illegal immigrants at one point. Most of them voted for Trump because they didn't have any issue with his comments on illegal immigrants from Mexico. They don't even see it as racially charged just an example of good business sense.
1/3 of Hispanic voters voted for Trump. He got more Hispanics to vote for him than Romney. Many Hispanics don't get that they're being targeted by Republican politicians just like many poor whites don't understand that Republcians are waging a war on the poor.
You seem to not realize how many low information voters there are.
Well tell me what makes them nonsense?
You don't think there's an ideology behind corporate media?
Alright so why is that article one of the trashy ones and not one of the great ones?
Prove what? That our politicians are paying more attention to the wealthy than their constituents? That the wealthy have an enormous amount of political influence?
I thought this was self-evident and widely accepted by now.
I'll get to Jovian in a second.
@sgamer82 if you want to know the biases of news sources, you can refer to http://mediabiasfactcheck.com/
.
edited 27th Feb '17 6:59:37 PM by TVRulezAgain

edited 27th Feb '17 3:54:37 PM by Krieger22
I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot