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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#176201: Feb 27th 2017 at 12:07:08 AM

[up]Right so looking at the statistics right for the states it's like this:

Year 2014

Majority-minority states + DC:

Hawaii - 77 % minority

Asians are 36.4% of the population here with the white population standing at 23 %. That's not going away anytime soon.

DC - 64.2% minority

California - 61.5 % minority

38.6% of the population is Hispanic to the 38.5 % white population. But California's Hispanic is share increasing because of immigration and higher birth rates and an older white population dying off.

New Mexico - 61.1% minority

47.7 % Hispanic to its 38.9% white population. Same reasons as California.

Texas - 56.5% minority

Texas is different than the rest in that its white population is still the biggest ethnic group at a whopping 43.5 % of the population while the Hispanic population is at 38.6%. That's probably one reason it still votes reliably Republican. It's different than the others in that it actually has a very high African American population at 11.7 %. California, Hawaii and New Mexico actually have low African American populations. Much lower than the national average.

Soon to be majority-minority states:

Nevada- 48.5% minority

Most of this is concentrated in Las Vegas. Nevada is literally a state where if you nuked Las Vegas, it'd be a heavy Republican stronghold.

Maryland- 47.4 % minority

Georgia: 45.7 % minority

Florida- 44.2% minority

Arizona- 43.8% minority

New York - 43.2% minority

edited 27th Feb '17 12:08:39 AM by MadSkillz

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#176202: Feb 27th 2017 at 12:10:52 AM

You know if Republicans wanted to give themselves another advantage, they should find a way to give Las Vegas to California. It'd give California a bigger share of the electoral vote but it'd give Republicans a bigger boost.

Maybe they could ask California to take Las Vegas if they secede. tongue

edited 27th Feb '17 12:11:03 AM by MadSkillz

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#176203: Feb 27th 2017 at 12:35:29 AM

We actually doing this conspiracy theory nonsense about "corporate masters"? I've said it before, I'll say it again—got any evidence?

@Ambar Yes. Most Democrats are owned by Wall Street same as Republicans.

Many companies frequently give money to both sides so no matter who wins, the elites stay in their good graces. Companies show preference to Republicans but Microsoft, Time Warner, Comcast and Goldman Sachs seem to prefer liberal candidates.

Professor Jeffrey Sachs from Columbia University:

The country he now considers most in need of his diagnostic gifts is his own. “Something has gone terribly wrong in the US economy, politics, and society in general,” Mr Sachs writes in “The Price of Civilization”. American politicians are the stooges of corporations, he says. And American voters have been tranquillized into obesity by saturation advertising. “On many days it seems that the only difference between the Republicans and Democrats is that Big Oil owns the Republicans while Wall Street owns the Democrats.” He is particularly scathing of the “revolving door” between Mr Obama’s administration and Wall Street.

For decades, Wall Street gave more to Republicans than Democrats.It's only until 2010 that Wall Street started giving a little more to Republicans than Democrats. This is from 2011 so I don't know if it's turned again.

I say this as a former activist and operative within the Democratic Party and someone who still is a registered Democrat and votes for Democratic candidates in elections. Which tells you a lot of how unbelievably horrific the Republican Party is.

Heart and soul the Republicans represent the 1% and occasionally form coalitions with social reactionaries who are so driven by so much fear and self-loathing they will disregard the economic dimension of their lives - see What's the Matter With Kansas? - and empower the 1% further if they agree to crush their Culture War enemies. Those social reactionaries are the useful idiots for the Republican Party of the 1%. Ironically the 1% tend to rarely actually deliver on their promises to the reactionaries (abortion... still legal).

But if the Republicans represent the 1% and occasionally a few self-hating 99ers... who do the Democrats represent? When it comes to issues of finance (which is increasingly more issues) the Democratic Party is the Party of Wall Street.

Wall Street generally gives more money to Democrats. Only until recently, and by recently I mean very recently has this trend started to turn - it took a major financial crisis, from ABC News:

If you needed a reminder that Wall Street and Washington make the strangest of bedfellows, new research shows that Goldman Sachs donated more money to Republicans than Democrats for the first time in decades. The latest data from the Washington D.C.-based Center for Responsive Politics shows that Goldman has doled out roughly $914,000 to Republican candidates compared to about $776,000 to Democrats in this year's election cycle.

As you can see even before Wall Street bribed their way out of the 2008 crisis by helping elect Obama and the Wall Street Democratic Congress - the trend was clear. Give more money to Democrats, but why?

Because the Democratic Party:

1. Was happy to have the money and once taking it would become reliant on it.

and

2. The Democratic Party is supposed to be looking out for the 99%, bribe the Cop on the beat and you can get away with murder. And oh how Wall Street has. ZERO PROSECUTIONS. Eric Holder might as well work for the SEC he's been so ineffective at laying a glove on rampant fraud on Wall Street.

But the Democratic Party did more than simply take the bribe, they were Wall Street's chief advocates in DC. Particularly during the Clinton Administration. The repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act, a major cause of the financial crisis was signed by Bill Clinton after having been lobbied for by Robert Rubin, Clinton's Treasury Secretary and like Jon Corzine a former CEO of Goldman Sachs and later Chairman of Citigroup as it was bailed out by the Federal government.

Here More at the link of how it's owned by Wall Street.

This is what I was talking about earlier when I heavily implied there's rot in the Democratic Party that needs fixing.

It's still leaps and bounds above the Republican Party, sure.

edited 27th Feb '17 12:37:02 AM by MadSkillz

Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#176204: Feb 27th 2017 at 12:36:31 AM

[up][up] Or we can take the entirety of the American West with us.

edited 27th Feb '17 12:36:43 AM by Bat178

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#176205: Feb 27th 2017 at 1:17:48 AM

Hillary got so many votes in Texas at least in part because a lot of people here were truly turned off by Trump. I was very much expecting that Trump would win this state anyway, but it ended up being closer than I thought it would. It's not necessarily indicative of a larger trend, considering that Trump is a very polarizing figure. And remember, Texas like forty seven other states apportions EC votes by the winner takes all principal. This means our liberal urban areas are outvoted by the rural areas.

We're not likely to see a landslide of Democratism in the next few elections, but all in all I think it's worth the DNC's time to pursue the ground here. There is a place for it in this state, and with things like Wendy Davis having happened there is support to be found here.

This is, of course, just one Texan's opinion, and a lazy Texan at that.

Matues Since: Sep, 2011
#176206: Feb 27th 2017 at 1:34:44 AM

Blue dogs do make it harder to fight the perception down here that the parties are functionally identical.

I mean, if I go to look at the democratic candidates and find out they don't think I'm people, then I'm not exactly going to feel a strong desire to give them governmental power.

That actually happened in the first year I was able to vote in an election. The candidates held, for the most part, the same views, which meant that no matter who I voted for the best I could hope for as a queer person was neglect and apathy.

It makes it hard for me to defend the differences between the two parties, both because of the dilution of their political stances and because it just makes me sad and tired.

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#176207: Feb 27th 2017 at 3:14:14 AM

As a North African I will say that I will take apathy and neglect over active malice any day.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Matues Since: Sep, 2011
#176208: Feb 27th 2017 at 4:41:43 AM

I mean, I'm gonna vote democratic for in-state elections, but down here it's more of taking the slow poison over the fast one because you hope they'll synthesize the antidote in time.

speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#176209: Feb 27th 2017 at 5:16:29 AM

Iranian filmmaker Asghar Farhadi's acceptance speech:

"I'm sorry I'm not with you tonight. My absence is out of respect for the people of my country and those of the other six nations whom have been disrespected by the inhumane law that bans entry of immigrants to the U.S. Dividing the world into the 'us' and our 'enemies' categories creates fear, a deceitful justification for aggression and war. These wars prevent democracy and human rights in countries which have themselves been victims of aggression. Filmmakers can turn their cameras to capture shared human qualities and break stereotypes of various nationalities and religions. They create empathy between us and others, an empathy which we need today more than ever."

(mic drop)

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#176210: Feb 27th 2017 at 5:26:40 AM

[up] ...Ya know, it's almost impressive that Trump was able to secure his place as one of the worst Presidents in the USA's history with one awful Executive Order.

edited 27th Feb '17 5:27:15 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#176211: Feb 27th 2017 at 5:57:05 AM

A big part of that is how incredibly incompetent said executive order was in implementation. He's done one big thing since he got in, and he screwed it up so badly that the tourism industry took a huge hit.

Granted, that's nothing new to him. All the businesses around Mar-A-Lago are in huge trouble because the security for Trump means that no one can get to them on weekends. The businesses in Trunp Tower are having problems too.

For a president who campaigned on bringing jobs back, he's flat out awful at maintaining jobs that already exist and that actually benefit his own businesses.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#176212: Feb 27th 2017 at 6:00:33 AM

[up] Yes, that one E.O. was just the perfect Establishing Character Moment for what we should expect (dread) in this administration. Malice and incompetence in abundance.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#176213: Feb 27th 2017 at 6:03:08 AM

[up] And yet at the same time, the one where people of all kinds band together more than ever.

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#176214: Feb 27th 2017 at 6:13:21 AM

If the tone and dance don't change this will be the summation of Trump's presidency.

We didn't think this through: the presidency.

Inter arma enim silent leges
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#176215: Feb 27th 2017 at 6:17:26 AM

[up] Either that, or It seemed like a good idea at the time: the presidency.

edited 27th Feb '17 6:18:17 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#176216: Feb 27th 2017 at 6:27:34 AM

Clash in Sacramento over state versus local control for housing development.

Noting this here because I wanted to discuss a theory that the housing crisis in Cali is people to red states, thus augmenting their political weight in the House and electoral college.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#176217: Feb 27th 2017 at 7:02:55 AM

[up][up]I think of it as more Devil in Plain Sight / Poor Communication Kills: The Election and
Do Not Go Gentle: The Presidency

[up]Does that inclusionary housing include requirements to build multi-family homes? And is local government actually the problem of the NIMBY/ "But my Housing values" kind or is it applying more of the environmental/historical preservation instinct?

Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our lives
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#176218: Feb 27th 2017 at 7:12:58 AM

Sort of a combination of all these four points. And highways are a very low capacity means of transportation.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#176219: Feb 27th 2017 at 7:20:45 AM

[up][up]A book about this whole debacle:

2016-202X — the Disaster Years

edited 27th Feb '17 7:21:15 AM by CrimsonZephyr

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#176220: Feb 27th 2017 at 7:22:13 AM

[up] And what about the actions of the activists and resistance fighters?

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#176221: Feb 27th 2017 at 7:26:26 AM

[up] La Résistance, We ARE Struggling Together, etc.

edited 27th Feb '17 7:26:43 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#176222: Feb 27th 2017 at 7:32:12 AM

[up][up]That's Do Not Go Gentle.
Though, I'm near convinced that Silas has the right theory: The gods have given up on humanity and we're all really in purgatory paying for the Sins of Our Fathers, while the gods watch the Earth burn from Mt. Olympus.

edited 27th Feb '17 7:36:42 AM by CenturyEye

Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our lives
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#176223: Feb 27th 2017 at 7:34:27 AM

[up][up]I'd go with the latter. There's a reason I've been rewatching the Judean People's Front scene ever since the moment Trump hit 270 electoral votes.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#176224: Feb 27th 2017 at 7:35:55 AM

[up][up]If I weren't an atheist, I'd just think it's a case of Jerkass Gods screwing with us for no better reason than their amusement.

Disgusted, but not surprised
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#176225: Feb 27th 2017 at 7:38:06 AM

Or maybe you need to talk a bit more about things that can improve the world - such as the topic I brought up - and less about irrelevancies such as the latest escapades.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

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