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Jasaiga Since: Jan, 2015
#175976: Feb 25th 2017 at 5:48:52 PM

Far Left took another L?

lol. Not surprised in the least.

They lack the emotional maturity and policy knowledge to run a political party.

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#175977: Feb 25th 2017 at 5:53:14 PM

So, in other news, there seems to be movement for Alec Baldwin to go in Trump's place at the Correspondence Dinner.

PLEASE LET THIS HAPPEN

Edit: forgot to add the link (http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/321204-zach-braff-suggests-alec-baldwin-fill-in-for-trump-at-wh)

edited 25th Feb '17 5:54:09 PM by TacticalFox88

New Survey coming this weekend!
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#175978: Feb 25th 2017 at 5:54:30 PM

[up][up] Enjoy another decade and a half of GOP single party rule then, assuming we even have functional elections by the time Trump's gone.

edited 25th Feb '17 5:56:28 PM by CaptainCapsase

fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#175979: Feb 25th 2017 at 5:56:16 PM

Honestly the two are effectively working as dnc chair together-perez even went above and beyond to appoint Ellison dnc deputy chair. This infighting is ridiculous.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#175980: Feb 25th 2017 at 5:57:16 PM

[up] It's ridiculous but inevitable, and if history is any indication will continue until one side capitulates utterly, or things get bad enough that society as we know it collapses.

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#175981: Feb 25th 2017 at 5:58:44 PM

Car plows into group in New Orleans.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#175982: Feb 25th 2017 at 5:59:05 PM

It's just a single race, though that being said, it's certainly looking like this antagonism between the left and center is going to continue dogging the democrats, which is exactly what we don't need in the era of Trump.

There is a lot of worry that Perez is going to "rig" it against the progressive candidate in favor of the establishment candidate again.

And if this is the direction that the Democrat Party is going to keep pushing then they're pretty much cannibalizing the future of their base.

A lot of young voters are feeling disenfranchised by both parties. They won't vote for Trump. They probably won't vote all. They'll be pushed into indifference. Or they'll join the Herbal Tea Party Movement.

Something has got to give and throwing a bone by making Ellison deputy chair is not enough.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#175983: Feb 25th 2017 at 6:03:53 PM

Yeah, I really hope Perez makes actual efforts to reach out to the left.

fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#175984: Feb 25th 2017 at 6:06:12 PM

Seeing as he's already actively working with Ellison I really doubt he'll "rig" the races.

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#175985: Feb 25th 2017 at 6:08:02 PM

He's working closely with Ellison, he just declared he'll fight Trump every step of the way, and he has the same policies as Ellison.

What more do you want him to do right now?

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#175987: Feb 25th 2017 at 6:11:03 PM

I guess because he isn't backed by Bernie or whatever Perez bad.

Meanwhile the Trump administration will probably sneak something horrible past us because we were too busy arguing about Perez to pay attention.

i'm tired, my friend
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#175988: Feb 25th 2017 at 6:11:11 PM

Fake account

New Survey coming this weekend!
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#175989: Feb 25th 2017 at 6:14:42 PM

So I'm seeing stuff saying the Deputy Chair is an entirely new position. Given how friendly the two seem to be it wouldn't surprise me if Perez and Ellison privately decided to co-run things no matter who won. Hopefully they can make this unity clear to the public.

StarOutlaw Since: Nov, 2010
#175990: Feb 25th 2017 at 6:15:03 PM

It may be fake, but it fooled me for a moment. It's hard not to believe he wouldn't say something like that.

Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#175991: Feb 25th 2017 at 6:15:35 PM

[up][up][up][up][up] That's Tonald Trump, not Donald Trump. They are separate people.

edited 25th Feb '17 6:15:52 PM by Bat178

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#175992: Feb 25th 2017 at 6:18:12 PM

@smokeycut: actually give Ellison input into the decision making process rather than simply keeping the position as a purely ornamental one as the Washington Post seems to think it is. We'll have to see what actually ends up happening at the DNC. That's going to be a wait and see thing really.

edited 25th Feb '17 6:20:28 PM by CaptainCapsase

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#175993: Feb 25th 2017 at 6:23:18 PM

I feel like a lot of this could be alleviated if you made Ellison and Perez co-leaders of the DNC.

NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#175994: Feb 25th 2017 at 6:27:55 PM

Did they not get the memo that Sanders supporters are perfectly willing to stay home and not vote if no one catches their eye even if Sanders pushes people towards the establishment Democrat candidate?
This is exactly the reason why mainstream Democrats aren't willing to court that group of voters. You can spent a lot of time and effort jumping through their arbitrary hoops (possibly annoying your more reliable base in the process) in the hopes of maybe getting their support, unless they decide that you're a Wall Street shill and you doing literally everything they asked for is just pandering to them for their votes and you're just a fake progressive who will immediately turn your back on them once you're in office.

Or you can not do that, and reach out to the usual mainstream supporters. In which case the Bernie Bros will crow about how you're a Wall Street shill and actually more conservative than Republican Jesus.

Like I said, the Bernie Bro crowd isn't actually interested in Sanders or his policy goals. They're interested in patting themselves on the back for being so much more better than those fake-liberal mainstream Democrats and telling everyone that if only everyone listened to them, then everything would be fantastic forever. That mindset relies on not being in power, because once you have to actually govern, then reality sets in and you can't just tell everyone what a super genius you are without having to back it up with anything.

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#175995: Feb 25th 2017 at 6:34:46 PM

From browsing google news it looks like the New Orleans incident was a case of drunk driving. Unfortunate, but not really within the scope of this thread.

21 people were hospitalized, but no fortunately no fatalities have been reported so far.

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#175996: Feb 25th 2017 at 6:37:31 PM

[up] I seriously hope it's a drunk driving accident. The last thing Trump needs is ammo.

Still, my heart and prayers go out to the victims, whether this was a Drunk Driving Accident or a Terrorist Attack. I hope they all make quick and speedy recoveries.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#175997: Feb 25th 2017 at 7:11:41 PM

[up][up][up] This is why I couldn't in good faith support Sanders in the primaries. I just wasn't all that impressed by his résumé and found his "anti-establishment" talk to be blatant pandering. I also wasn't thrilled by his obstinate refusal to give up even after his chances of winning were pretty much nil. Though I would have been willing to vote for him in the general election.

edited 25th Feb '17 7:15:45 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#175998: Feb 25th 2017 at 7:13:08 PM

Something I want to respond to:

Capsase, no. Obama was less liberal economically than Nixon. Nixon never wanted to sign any of that legislation, but he dealt with veto-proof Democratic majorities. He didn't opt to go "Oh, right, gonna make the EPA today" without massive pressure.

On topic, can we all just accept for once, that both choices were good and we fight with what we've got?

CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#175999: Feb 25th 2017 at 7:15:23 PM

The Democrats retain control over Delaware's state legislature in special election trouncing.

This is the sort of thing we should be working towards, not having meaningless fights over which of the two identical DNC chairmen was better.

edited 25th Feb '17 7:15:53 PM by CrimsonZephyr

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#176000: Feb 25th 2017 at 7:16:20 PM

[up] Yeah, the state legislatures and governor houses are super-important.

edited 25th Feb '17 7:16:59 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised

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