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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
New post for new topic. Speaking of fascism, etc, elements of the alt-right continue their love affair with Pinochet
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Couple of things that stood out to me:
I don't know enough about China and other manufacturers to make this more than pure speculation, but is it possible, let alone feasible, that we could see an inversion of the last several decades, with manufacturing jobs moving to the US, and the countries they're moving from undergoing the effects of deindustrialization (negative and positive) like the US did?
edited 24th Feb '17 9:25:24 PM by Eschaton
Trump did show american true color, not in a "they a secretly evil" but that most of the time the population seen to like the old status quo of america as world cop by having superior firepower and the idea that unequal relationships is good standar because everyone does that and as long you win who the fuck cares?
the same happen here in my country(and yes, Im using that card again, deal with it) and so far we are still stuck with it, but the US is turning diferent by having a better resistence, so let see how that will play up.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"Could the US reindustrialize? Yes, it could. Is Trump's approach the right way to do it? Nope, definitely not.
As Steinmeier rightly pointed out: If the US wants to export, it has to build better products. It is really as easy as that. The US can't compete on the price, countries which shit wages and working conditions will always beat it out of the market, but it could compete on quality if it would invest in the right places - mainly education.
The only thing the concept with the bilateral trade deal will do is making the US even less competitive. While other countries trade freely with each other, the tariffs will make US products even less affordable than they already are...what, did you think that is a one way street? If the US slaps tariffs on foreign products, the other countries will retaliate.
edited 24th Feb '17 9:41:09 PM by tclittle
"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."![]()
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Of course, the US understond that playing world cop was a foolish errand and in art chose Obama because of that, in a way Trump is like the evil knockoff of obama(considering how obsess they are with him) they want to thing to go "back on tracks" but the world dosent move that way anymore.
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My biggest concern is how the political party will behive themselve in the future, the second term of obama administration an this election pretty much brought and end to the notion both party were formal rivals, they are now swear enemies is "My way or fuck off", I get is necesary NOW, but it worry me that it would be in the future.
edited 24th Feb '17 10:11:45 PM by unknowing
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Seeing as how that doesn't involve nationalism, it's fine. I know I wish the only thing I still knew about him was that Berke Breathed once put Trump's brain in a dead cat to mock him in Bloom County.
edited 25th Feb '17 12:28:12 AM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprisedApparently Muhammad Ali's ex-wife and son were detained at a Florida airport because of their Arabic-sounding names: http://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/2017/02/24/muhammad-ali-jr-detained-immigration-fla-airport/98376180/
Christ, now even full-blooded Americans are being detained because they happen to have the wrong name. They let the ex-wife go when she showed a picture of her with her ex-husband, but the son was interrogated for nearly 2 hours. You would think they would recognize a famous celebrity's ex-wife and son, especially considering that celebrity died last year and it was all over the news, but I guess customs goons don't watch very much news or boxing...
edited 25th Feb '17 12:50:39 AM by Bat178
So, today's the vote for DNC chair.
And both Perez and Ellison are strong on labor and racial justice. They're both good candidates for a position that's important, but not super-important.
And yet, I'm terrified that this decision is going to screw us over, simply due to hurt feelings in the voters.
We ARE Struggling Together is really frustrating...
If Perez wins:
"Aargh, those EBIL establishment corporate Dems! That's it! I'm gonna stay home and NEVER VOTE AGAIN!"
If Ellison wins:
"Those fucking Bernie-or-busters are gonna screw us over AGAIN!"
Meanwhile, most of the sane Democrat voters are wondering wtf is wrong with the above two groups.
edited 25th Feb '17 5:44:08 AM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprised![]()
Yeah, I mean, if it were on me I'd go with Ellison for unity, but neither of them seems bad.
Speaking about him, Manchin invites primary challenge from Sanders supporters in call
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This is potentially promising:
H.R. McMaster Breaks With Administration on Views of Islam
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The adviser, Lt. Gen. H. R. McMaster, told the staff of the National Security Council on Thursday, in his first “all hands” staff meeting, that the label “radical Islamic terrorism” was not helpful because terrorists are “un-Islamic,” according to people who were in the meeting.
edited 25th Feb '17 6:17:54 AM by KarkatTheDalek
Oh God! Natural light!I wouldn't read to much into it. Trump and his administration have been contradicting each other and themselves in foreign policy for weeks.
At the recent NATO summit, Mattis first told the European ambassadors that NATO was unconditionally supported, and reiterated Trump's pay up or else talking point the next day. The Sec State is out of the loop on major decisions to boot, so the administration really can't have a coherent foreign policy, even if wasn't Trump at the top.
Oh, just saw this thing:
Montana is pissed at the GOP, so much they may loose the congress seat in the special election.
EDIT: and say what you will about Sanders, but this was a great comeback
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edited 25th Feb '17 6:38:04 AM by IFwanderer
1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV

No it wasn't. Under this logic the USA is supportive of Communist China. Not toppling someone, and even doing business with someone is not the same as actively supporting or propping them up.
This is a far more legitimate complaint, but it has nothing to do with FDR and everything to do with the post WWII era. It should also be noted that in some—not all, but some—of those cases, the American government legitimately a) did not understand the nature of the regime they were backing or b) believed that the alternatives were worse for everyone. This is not to suggest that this makes their actions excusable, simply that the reasons go beyond "America liking fascism".
Certainly there's an ugly strand of tolerance or even support for neofascist regimes among some American foreign policy makers, particularly the likes of Kissinger or those associated with the Nixon and Reagan administrations. Support for the likes of Pinochet, Videla, Rios Montt, etc, is a black mark on the American record and should land some of the people involved in jail in a perfect world. But the reasons for it go beyond some sort of intrinsic American appreciation of fascism.