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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Even Glenn Beck thinks Bannon is nucking futs.
Also, I think a few took issue with Mad Skillz assertion that Trump's actions are an accurate reflection of the US' national character over the years, he's just been honest about it. I disagree, no president has wanted to burn down the global order that made their nation a great power.
edited 24th Feb '17 11:08:34 AM by Rationalinsanity
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.Sorry for the double post, but CNN just broke a story. No link yet, but here's the text.
The White House handpicked select news organizations, beyond the pool, to attend Friday’s gaggle with Press Secretary Sean Spicer. CNN was not permitted to attend, along with the New York Times, Politico, Buzzfeed, and much of the foreign press that regularly attends White House briefings.NBC, ABC, and FOX were allowed in, along with CBS, who is Friday’s pool network. Breitbart, Washington Times, One America News Network were also allowed to attend. The Associated Press and Time boycotted the gaggle.There has been no explanation yet from the White House.
Yeah, so now Trump is picking and choosing which outlets get access to the Orange House.
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.Exclusive: Leaked GOP Obamacare replacement shrinks subsidies, Medicaid expansion
Well that's not what I was saying. I meant the actions Swanpride said are actually in-line with America's policies. Military domination, destroy ISIS and bully countries into accepting our overlordship.
Trump trying to replace all trade deals with bilateral ones are just another way to do it.
I mean this is the same country that toppled democracies and subverted elections because they were not in line with the US' interests.
We're not some global force for good just a power-hungry one that has to pass itself off as righteous to its constituents.
Some French are courting a radical candidate for their Presidential election...Obama.
(Wa. Post)
(It is somewhat tongue in cheek but it doesn't exactly bode favorably for the opinion of the actual candidates.)
AP and Time are boycotting the WH over their media outlet restrictions.
http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/24/media/cnn-blocked-white-house-gaggle/index.html
No one here is saying that America is a shining bastion of goodness and light who's never done anything wrong, ever. But saying that Trump is simply business as usual for America except with the pleasant veneer stripped away isn't true either. The amount of backlash that Trump is getting from the American public is evidence enough of that.
Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.In particular, the view that America is Evil contributes to the toxic meme that we should not bother to try to fix it, that Trump's Chumps are not an aberration in a functioning democracy but an expression of the true nature of our country, and it's only taken this long to come out because we've managed to paper it over.
It's an inherently defeatist point of view that plays directly into the hands of people who want to make totalitarianism the default state of government. Putin's propaganda team has been busily trying to seed this notion, and has already largely succeeded within Russia. They point to the corruption and malfeasance that accompanied the 2016 election as evidence: "Look, America isn't a shining exemplar of liberty after all. They're just as corrupt as we are. You should get used to it, because it's how the world works."
The more resigned we become about how we're fundamentally corrupt as a nation, the less capable we become of taking any effective action against corruption, and that's exactly what the corrupt want. Killing hope is one of the most effective and powerful tools of the dictator.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"I wouldn't say that Trump is a direct reflection of American nature. The American psyche is pretty deeply Manichean, and he simply all our worst excesses reflected in a single individual. He might even be good for America in the long run, in the way getting one's hand burned teaches us never to touch the flame. Seeing as he lost the popular vote by an unprecedented margin, his election is less of an indictment on "America" (and certainly not of me, I'm from Massachusetts), but of our electoral system.
edited 24th Feb '17 1:22:20 PM by CrimsonZephyr
"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."I'm arguing against that point of view. Trump is not representative of most Americans. He is representative of a strongly vocal minority that has gained undue influence over elections, in part through the design of our electoral system, and in part through the abrogation of responsibility on the part of people who oppose their point of view.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"

I am equally confused.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."