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TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#175201: Feb 21st 2017 at 8:46:50 AM

Use a faerie!

My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#175202: Feb 21st 2017 at 8:48:02 AM

I tried tinyurl, but that doesn't seem to have done anything.

I don't think there's anything I can do.

Oh God! Natural light!
AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#175203: Feb 21st 2017 at 8:51:54 AM

The guy could have made an argument about lower age of consent about how teenagers engage in sex at 14 or 15 years of age so the law should reflect that, but making a "pederasty is character building" argument smacks of self-delusion.

No he really couldn't have because teenagers screwing each other is very different from teenagers screwing adults.

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#175204: Feb 21st 2017 at 8:52:41 AM

Does this link work?

If not, here is it in two parts:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-government-just-put-out-the-blueprint-for-

president-trump's-immigration-crackdown/ar-AAnaMUB?li=AA5a8k&ocid=spartanntp

edited 21st Feb '17 8:52:59 AM by IFwanderer

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#175205: Feb 21st 2017 at 9:00:43 AM

Yes, that one works. Thanks for that.

Oh God! Natural light!
PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
Planeswalker
#175206: Feb 21st 2017 at 9:01:31 AM

That one works.

On one hand, border security is pretty important for any country and illegal immigration is a problem, on the other this seems like a huge amount of wasted resources for a plan that's probably not enforceable.

Oissu!
Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#175207: Feb 21st 2017 at 9:04:07 AM

Especially since if successful it'll probably turn into "We deported every illegal immigrant in Texas! What do you mean the farms can't run anymore? Not enough workers, but how's that possible?"

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#175208: Feb 21st 2017 at 9:05:50 AM

Something like this would be awful even if it was being managed by a competent administration. And this administration is not competent.

I predict that plenty of people who really shouldn't be allowed into the USA (at least not without proper vetting) are going to slip through anyway, and/or people who are more or less harmless and well meaning will be denied.

Disgusted, but not surprised
DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#175209: Feb 21st 2017 at 9:14:57 AM

It can take years after an immigrant is apprehended for that immigrant to get deported, because immigration courts are massively backlogged. The executive order signed by President Trump lays out a possible solution: sending people back “to the territory from which they came” while their cases are still pending in immigration court.

If that's true, then that would be the smoking gun to make this EO illegal. Sending people who may or may not be here illegally to another country, without a fair trial, will definitely make some courts strike this down.

We're looking at another 24-48 Hour long EO that would then be frozen by a more Liberal Court Circuit.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#175210: Feb 21st 2017 at 9:15:57 AM

Oy. While there are some places in the world with an AOC of 13 or less, they are reeeeally uncommon for a good reason (never mind social acceptability). The medicine is correct but everything else is oy.

I am not sure that I want to know what the new immigration policy will look like.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
vandro Shop Owner from The little shop that wasn't Since: Jul, 2009
Shop Owner
#175211: Feb 21st 2017 at 9:17:51 AM

No he really couldn't have because teenagers screwing each other is very different from teenagers screwing adults.

I meant it in the sense of what could be possibly said about lowering the age of consent that isn't nambla lite arguments. Other than that, I just happened to think his position is basically a self-defense mechanism.

speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#175212: Feb 21st 2017 at 9:27:40 AM

Trump condemned anti-Semitic rhetoric and actions over the weekend. Wonder how the supremacists will take this.

nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#175213: Feb 21st 2017 at 9:34:19 AM

[up]His condemnation does come across as "Racism is bad...mmmkay....", without any teeth to it though.

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#175214: Feb 21st 2017 at 9:35:00 AM

In some good news, Trump to leave "Dreamers" (Hispanic Illegals who were brought here as Children and are now Adults) alone. At least that EO won't target them.

Too bad that one Dreamer was arrested before Trump decided to leave them alone.

EDIT: Also, cue hundreds of Alt-Right Trumpeteers that wanted to kick out Every Single Illegal Period saying they will never vote for Trump again. That's also a good thing.

edited 21st Feb '17 9:40:04 AM by DingoWalley1

Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#175215: Feb 21st 2017 at 9:41:07 AM

Even a toothless condemnation of racism is a big improvement for him.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#175216: Feb 21st 2017 at 9:53:23 AM

"No! I wanted him to kick out all the immigrants! All of them!"

"So, just give America to the Native Americans?"

"Yes! Why doesn't anyone ever understand that that's what we want? What we've always ever wanted!"

Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#175217: Feb 21st 2017 at 9:55:56 AM

Nah man. The Native Americans are immigrants too. They just immigrated here a few thousands years before we did. America should be left without any human habitation whatsoever, like God intended.

edited 21st Feb '17 9:56:12 AM by Gilphon

Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#175218: Feb 21st 2017 at 9:57:06 AM

Yeah, when you point out that only the natives aren't immigrants (and even they kind of are, but they really were here first) to these people, their brains basically seize up.

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#175220: Feb 21st 2017 at 10:10:17 AM

Is this a good moment to mention that immigration isn't just not related to an increase in crime, but that it could be related to a decrease in it?

[up]In case you want to check.

edited 21st Feb '17 10:11:11 AM by IFwanderer

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#175222: Feb 21st 2017 at 10:35:08 AM

[up] Is that legal?

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#175223: Feb 21st 2017 at 10:37:17 AM

[up]This allocation initiative has been going on for years, but it will not go into effect until at least half the electoral votes accounted for have signed on-still a long ways to go, with a number of solid Red states like Texas that will never sign it.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#175224: Feb 21st 2017 at 10:38:38 AM

My understanding was that it was more a plan by some of the Non-Swing States to give their votes more impact.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#175225: Feb 21st 2017 at 10:39:27 AM

Regarding the immigrants thing, I've also seen certain people (re: racists) say that their ancestors weren't refugees or immigrants, but settlers. Who worked hard, built the land, and never got a handout or committed genocide, no siree.

edited 21st Feb '17 10:39:38 AM by Rationalinsanity

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