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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
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Because interacting with people of radically different views to us in a respectful way is how we both show them that people who think differently from them have a right to feel that way, and aren't liable to harm them just because they see the world in a massively different way to them.
Thus we stop people from being radicalized.
edited 19th Feb '17 3:12:01 PM by SaintDeltora
"Please crush me with your heels Esdeath-sama!Drumpf's is blatantly using the othering of immigrants and refugees to justify his rule and how his and only his measures and ideas can keep the US safe from terrorist or criminals. This is downright out of the Goebbels and Hitler's playbook.
His audience will keep eating that stuff, but it should be pretty obvious that foreign and radical Islamic terrorism on US soil is a very overblown issue.
He is so desperate to create a siege mentality he can't help but to fall flat on his face by making stupid and fake claims.
Inter arma enim silent leges
x10 Whatever. These people had it in themselves to support the man who practically redefined uncouth vitriol in global politics. Clearly they're just fine with that sort of thing as long as it's in service to politics they agree with. If people are rightly telling them to go fuck themselves, they really don't have a moral high horse to sit on.
edited 19th Feb '17 3:50:20 PM by DrDougsh
Here's the thing look at the examples listed on the last page.
- The first one is someone who strait up doesn't recognise the damage they've done to the entire world by voting for Trump, they don't get that yes it's a statement about them morally. Yes voting for a guy who boast about committing sexual assault and calls for the use of torture and the murder of civilians is a statement about you as a person. Sure you'd have taken any other option, but you still chose that option, the idea that maybe your personal ecneomic decline from middle class to lower middle class isn't more important than global security paints you as a very selfish person. This person could maybe be appealed to by making it clear that the Dems actually were offering a better way for them to be helped, but that doesn't change the fact that I don't see them deserving sympathy for being rejected due to willing to elect a rapist in chief so as to line their own pockets. In the end they won't be won over by the Dems actions I suspect but by the fact that in four years they will be rose of and will realise that siding with Trump didn't get them closer to their destination, it got them further.
- The second one is simply delusional, protests are destroying the country? The Dems are to into identity politics (AKA not racist enough anymore)? The idea that the civil war has started now because of the Democrats is simply laughable, the Dems weren't the ones who spent six years destroying the country out of spite at a black man getting elected president. The ways to appear to such a person are to either roll over for Trump or screw over minorities, again I'll pass.
- The third one honestly the responce to the friend makes it clear what kind of person they are. When someone close to you raises serious moral issues with a choice you're making maybe take a step back from reconsider your actions instead of screaming "well fuck you then!" Plus I find it hard to sympathise with anyone who owns a MAGA hat.
Also on another point I missed.
We can actually, youth involvement was down, minority involvement was down, independent involvement was down and even with all that Trump won by the skin on his tether after getting support from Russia, the FBI, the press and benefiting from thirty years of hatred aimed at Clinton. He needed all fo that for a narrow win. We fix even open fo those things and we get a narrow win, we fix several and we get a solid win, we fix them all and get the people Trump has conned and who will have seen their lives get worse? That's a strong win right there.
Now with voting rights back to Jim Crow days minoriy turnout may well be one of the hardest to fix, that may have to wait until after 2020, where the Dems might be able to get the House, Senate and White House and pass a new Voting Rights Act.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranBeen out of the thread for a couple days, so apologies if this was already brought up: Paul Ryan is trying to ban Democratic Reps from meeting with ICE.
I wanted to say something similar, but then I thought "Wait, would he have that power to fire Bannon?". I'm thinking Bannon and insert name here would be equals, and neither of them could fire each other; only Trump could.
EDIT: Senior Trump Appointee for the NSC, Craig Deare, was fired for criticizing Trump in Private
. And they keep leaving/getting fired. Soon only Bannon will be in the NSC!
Yeah, no way would Trump give someone his power, and I'm sure anyone even tempted into taking the job would know that he means "You can hire your own subordinates, but you still answer to me".
... I just got a funny idea: Hillary Clinton offers to take the job. It'd be the absolute funniest thing.
edited 19th Feb '17 6:55:48 PM by DingoWalley1
The BBC asks some blunt questions:
A Canadian reporter was barred from entering the US. Is this the beginning of the end of press freedom?
The award-winning Canadian photojournalist has spent the past decade travelling to the kinds of places where being in the media can be a hazard to your health: Iraq, Yemen, Somalia, Egypt and Turkey, to name a few.
So when he booked a flight in October to the US from Canada to cover the Standing Rock pipeline protests in North Dakota for the Canadian Broadcasting Company, he was relieved...
"In my mind I had nothing to hide. [America] is actually one of the few places in the world where you can just say you're a journalist," he told the BBC.
But when he told US border officials at the Vancouver airport he was travelling to North Dakota to cover Standing Rock, he says they pulled him aside and proceeded to interrogate him for six hours.
When he refused to unlock his mobile on the grounds that it contained confidential information about sources, they forcibly took his Sim cards and made copies of his reporter's notebook and personal diary.
Then they barred him from entering the US.
The American Civil Liberties Union, which is representing Mr Ou, and the Canadian Journalists for Free Expression have both condemned the incident. But according to the law, what happened at the US-Canada border is entirely legal.
The Customs and Border Protection agency told the BBC it cannot comment on individual cases, but that people who feel they have been treated unfairly can complain to the Department of Homeland Security, which oversees border security.
That is the rather startling advice in a blogpost that is being widely shared right now.
Its author, Quincy Larson, is a software engineer, who has previously written about the importance of protecting personal data. He now fears that data could be at risk every time you cross a border.
His concerns were sparked by the story of Sidd Bikkannavar, an American-born Nasa engineer, who flew home from a trip to Chile last month. On arrival in Houston, he was detained by the border police and, by his own account, put under great pressure to hand over the passcode to his smartphone, despite the fact that the device had been issued to him by Nasa.
Eventually, Bikkannavar did hand over both the phone and the passcode. It was taken away for 30 minutes and then returned, and he was free to go.
We also know that the new homeland security secretary, John Kelly, has talked of requiring visa applicants to hand over passwords to their social media accounts - though whether that could apply at the border too is not clear.
And on Thursday, a new Republican congressman took to Twitter to announce proudly that he had introduced his first bill - to require the review of visa applicants' social media.
Larson predicts that a policy where travellers are asked to download the contents of their phones will soon become commonplace, not just in the United States but around the world.
Hence his advice to leave your mobile phone and laptop at home and rent devices when you get to your destination.
As for the American embassy, well I called before lunchtime on Thursday and got a perfectly pleasant response...Forty-eight hours after my first enquiry, I have now received a response to my questions from the US embassy in London. Here it is:
"All international travellers arriving to the US are subject to US Customs & Border Protection inspection. This inspection may include electronic devices such as computers, disks, drives, tapes, mobile phones and other communication devices, cameras, music and other media players and any other electronic or digital devices. Keeping America safe and enforcing our nation's laws in an increasingly digital world depends on our ability to lawfully examine all materials entering the US.
"US Customs & Border Protection realises the importance of international travel to the US economy and we strive to process arriving travellers as efficiently and securely as possible while ensuring compliance with laws and regulations governing the international arrival process."
Does everyone know how to pose for national geographic?
Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our livesSo apparently Chris Wallace took Reince Priebus to task over Trump's comments about "fake media" being the enemy of the country.
One part was saying that, as much as Obama may have griped and moaned about Fox, he never said they were "the enemy"
, and the other part was pointing out the hypocrisy of Priebus criticizing the NY Times for using anonymous sources while using an unnamed source to debunk the claim
.
The second link is directly to Fox, but Wallace going on the attack against Priebus is worth a watch.
"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"When either choice is going to fuck you, you shouldn't offer them the lube.
edited 19th Feb '17 8:12:42 PM by HextarVigar
Your momma's so dumb she thinks oral sex means talking dirty.Trump is completely, 100% a Russian Asset at this point. There is no doubt anymore. And so much for Trump not influencing his Allies through covert actions like this that a lot of his stupid Trumpeteers peddle!
Poroshenko IS corrupt. People who are otherwise pro-Kiev and not happy with what Russia is doing over there still realize the current president is an opportunistic scumball whose popularity is in the single digits. By all means, criticize Trump, but some things veer into Hitler Ate Sugar....
No discussion of the "I am a Muslim" rally
that happened today? It was organized by a former Trump buddy, hip-hop mogul Russell Simmons.
edited 19th Feb '17 8:22:31 PM by BonsaiForest

HARGH, that's all that matters! See? Muslims immigrants ''are'' more violent than locals!