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TheRoguePenguin Since: Jul, 2009
#174576: Feb 16th 2017 at 11:08:32 AM

At least he got called on his Electoral College BS. That needs to happen more.

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#174577: Feb 16th 2017 at 11:09:26 AM

[up][up] He also picked Alexander Acosta as his new pick for Labor Secretary. He'd be the first Latino in Trump's cabinet.

Also, he said he was going to talk less to the "Dishonest Media" and will instead talk "Directly to the People". IE, He's going to be holding Campaign Rallies more and Press Conferences less.

edited 16th Feb '17 11:10:28 AM by DingoWalley1

speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#174578: Feb 16th 2017 at 11:16:24 AM

According to a work friend, Trump flipped out at a reporter's question about race... I don't know specifics.

Mars444 Since: May, 2013
#174579: Feb 16th 2017 at 11:26:13 AM

From my Twitter feed, he asked a reporter if she could contact the Congressional Black Caucus to set up a meeting with him.

She's black.

Also, ranting about his EC vote margin, ranting about Clinton, and declaring himself to be the least antisemitic person you've ever met.

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AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#174581: Feb 16th 2017 at 11:28:48 AM

That thing with child soldiers is troubling, though. Although I am not certain if her fault directly (let alone whether there'd be a way to improve the situation at the ballot box).

It's in The Intercept. That's one step removed from using Fox Noise as a source.

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#174582: Feb 16th 2017 at 11:29:07 AM

Because asking a random black person among the reporters is a quicker way to do that than to contact actually Congressional members..... My God, why did anyone think he was qualified? Pray God that his popularity just keeps dropping over the next two to four years, because both of those elections are going to be a referendum on him.

ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#174583: Feb 16th 2017 at 11:32:17 AM

[up][up][up]...Honestly, I have no idea what game Mattis is playing, but he is going to get dowsed and burned by somebody if he keeps trying to play both sides while pretending to be uninvolved.

Also, can we stop with the posts that consist entirely of "BUT HER EMAILS"? Save the shitposting for Reddit and every news article that hits the web.

edited 16th Feb '17 11:32:27 AM by ViperMagnum357

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#174584: Feb 16th 2017 at 11:32:49 AM

A quick aside I meant to post earlier:

To help Idaho, Otter wants Trump to crack down on states with liberal marijuana laws

http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/letters-from-the-west/article133079199.html

In short, my state's Republican governor wants the federal government to get involved against something that was decided on the state level by our neighbors.

Also, Washington Post transcript of Trump's conference:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/02/16/donald-trumps-grievance-filled-press-conference-annotated/?utm_term=.77af9212d9f3

edited 16th Feb '17 11:35:45 AM by sgamer82

ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#174585: Feb 16th 2017 at 11:35:14 AM

[up]"States Rights" only applies when Democrats run the Federal government, I am sure it is written somewhere in the bylaws of the GOP.

edited 16th Feb '17 11:35:19 AM by ViperMagnum357

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#174586: Feb 16th 2017 at 11:36:31 AM

The slavers were totally willing to use the federal government to force territories to accept slavery against the will of the population there. The reactionaries have always been like that.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
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#174587: Feb 16th 2017 at 11:37:54 AM

But "states' rights", amirite? Hypocrites.

It is inevitable that, in an active 40-year political career, some of the decisions HRC made could or did have undesirable consequences. The same could be said of anyone. Taking specific acts or outcomes, even if the chain of causality is dubious, and blowing them into huge issues is the modus operandi of the disinformation media. They want you to get so exercised about "them emails" or "child soldiers" that you turn off your critical thinking skills.

I don't think anyone was pretending that Clinton was a perfect candidate, but she was by far the best offered during the election, and the positive far outweighed the negative in my estimation. Regardless of whether you agree, justifying Trump's election with "Hillary was a bad candidate" is sort of like justifying blowing your head off with a shotgun because you found a zit on your nose.

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#174588: Feb 16th 2017 at 11:38:56 AM

It's hardly the first rumblings we've heard from other states. Back when Colorado first legalized recreational marijuana, we started hearing from neighboring states about wanting to fine us for their citizens bringing the substance back to their states.

My retort to that has always been that y'all should be paying us for babysitting your stoners. Traffic congestion in this city has been a nightmare ever since every college student in the country has made Colorado their second home.

edited 16th Feb '17 11:40:00 AM by TobiasDrake

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ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#174589: Feb 16th 2017 at 11:46:51 AM

Well, I just lost a lot of respect for Rand Paul after hearing him say the following:

"I just don't think it's useful to be doing investigation after investigation, particularly of your own party," Paul said in an appearance on Fox News Radio's "Kilmeade and Friends." ''We'll never even get started with doing the things we need to do like repealing Obamacare if we're spending our whole time having Republicans investigate Republicans. I think it makes no sense."

Before that, I thought of him as someone I disagreed with on a fundamental level, but who at least came to his conclusions in an honest way with thought given to them. This turnaround after all the Benghazi hearings is extremely revealing.

edited 16th Feb '17 11:47:03 AM by ironballs16

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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#174590: Feb 16th 2017 at 11:47:38 AM

Just the idea that someone would think HRC is "evil" By ANY standard makes me think you are seriously deranged and/or ignorant

edited 16th Feb '17 11:47:51 AM by TacticalFox88

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ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#174591: Feb 16th 2017 at 11:50:37 AM

[up][up]Rand Paul is, and always has been, comfortably a part of the central GOP structure. His 'liberal' and 'centrist' leanings are flavoring to attract voters disaffected from oil barons and demagogues like Cruz.

edited 16th Feb '17 11:51:08 AM by ViperMagnum357

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#174592: Feb 16th 2017 at 12:12:13 PM

I love how the reasoning Republicans are giving for why investigating the potential of Russian interference in the highest office of our country isn't a priority is because they gotta repeal Obamacare, something their constituency is all but begging them not to do.

That's not just party over country. That's evil over country. That's like saying, "I'm sorry, I'd love to join the flight to stop the Death Star from blowing us up, but then who would kick this puppy? I think we both understand how important puppy-kicking is. I don't have time for trifles like the Empire's planet-killing murder weapon."

Every day, it becomes more and more unbelievable how cartoonishly evil the GOP is.

edited 16th Feb '17 12:12:45 PM by TobiasDrake

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#174593: Feb 16th 2017 at 12:17:28 PM

The Senate is holding a hearing on 'improving' the Endangered Species Act. Since the Republicans have made 233 legislative attempts to repeal it in the last six years, it's safe to say this doesn't bode well.

At least one Republican has vowed to wage an effort to repeal the Endangered Species Act. “It has never been used for the rehabilitation of species,” House Natural Resources Committee Chairman Rob Bishop (Republican-Utah) said, according to an Associated Press report. “It’s been used to control the land. We’ve missed the entire purpose of the Endangered Species Act. It has been hijacked.”
Protecting land is literally the best way to protect species. Animals need habitats.

Look, I know trying to block nominations is important, but it'd sure be awesome if there was actually a push for people to call their reps to block damaging repeals of environmental legislation, too.

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#174594: Feb 16th 2017 at 12:20:18 PM

It's getting ridiculous. Even most cartoon villains have more nuance today. Comparing the GOP to anything bad is becoming futile. Future generations will compare bad things to the GOP.

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#174595: Feb 16th 2017 at 12:22:15 PM

[up][up][up]Republicans don't care about their constituents. If they did they wouldn't push policies that actively harm most of them.

It's all about pushing their myopic, morally indefensible vision of "America"; they'd rather turn the country to ashes before having America be anything different from what they want.

edited 16th Feb '17 12:22:28 PM by Draghinazzo

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#174596: Feb 16th 2017 at 12:38:15 PM

Otter is knocking at the wrong door, seems like. The Rohrabacher-Farr amendments are Congress's deed, not the president's. Although I am not certain how broad they apply.

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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#174597: Feb 16th 2017 at 12:44:46 PM

He may be referring to Obama's policy being that he wasn't going to demand that federal law enforcement crack down on the states that had legalized it. Which has, no doubt, led to some problems for those who are direct neighbors to those states. Still, it is kind of hypocritical.

speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#174598: Feb 16th 2017 at 1:07:33 PM

I read through the transcript of that press conference. Why? Because I'm an idiot.

Trump made the assertion that "fake news" basically equals news that doesn't treat him fairly. In other words, he wants the news to do nothing but kiss his ass, even when he does things that should rightfully be called out. Basically, he has no concept of what a reporter's job is; he prefer if they were just a non-thinking, pro-Trump propaganda machine.

A side point: The phrase he SHOULD be using in this context is "biased news". "Fake news" implies that a news outlet flat-out made up a news story.

edited 16th Feb '17 1:26:43 PM by speedyboris

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#174599: Feb 16th 2017 at 1:09:29 PM

I watched that whole thing, it gave me a headache.

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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#174600: Feb 16th 2017 at 1:24:15 PM

Did anyone watch Paul Ryan's press conference which happened before that? He basically stated the intention to repeal the ACA and then quoted Humana and one other insurance company stating their intent to withdraw from the healthcare website, because apparently young people aren't signing up for insurance.


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