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Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#174526: Feb 16th 2017 at 2:13:56 AM

Isn't horror supposed to be worse than reality?

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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#174527: Feb 16th 2017 at 3:57:05 AM
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speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#174528: Feb 16th 2017 at 5:44:38 AM

You make no sense, Trump. You want to increase the IC's capabilities to keep America "safe" from terrorists, but yet you want to lobotomize the IC because they might have something on you. You can't have it both ways. WHAT ARE YOU HIDING?!

edited 16th Feb '17 5:45:18 AM by speedyboris

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#174529: Feb 16th 2017 at 5:44:39 AM

Oh, man, Keith Ellison and tom Perez throwing shade at TYT for this tweet was beautiful.

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thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
#174530: Feb 16th 2017 at 6:01:20 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF4vL8RN0Kg

Here have something funny from my people.

I can't open markup help.

AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#174531: Feb 16th 2017 at 6:14:00 AM

[up][up][up][up][up]Horror has nothing on reality.

edited 16th Feb '17 6:14:16 AM by AngelusNox

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thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
#174532: Feb 16th 2017 at 6:16:15 AM

You make no sense, Trump. You want to increase the IC's capabilities to keep America "safe" from terrorists, but yet you want to lobotomize the IC because they might have something on you. You can't have it both ways.

That was before they turned on him.

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#174533: Feb 16th 2017 at 6:22:20 AM

[up][up][up]What you want is [youtube:*video ID here*] (add another square bracket to the actual code)

So you do this: [youtube:S F4v L 8 RN 0 Kg]

Which returns this:

edited 16th Feb '17 6:23:04 AM by Krieger22

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#174534: Feb 16th 2017 at 6:23:07 AM

I'm not seeing any shade I'm that TYT tweet. What's the big deal about it?

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#174535: Feb 16th 2017 at 6:23:36 AM

In case anyone wants to know what Ellison and Perez replied.

Also, yeah. TYT act like freaking cultists.

edited 16th Feb '17 6:24:09 AM by IFwanderer

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Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#174537: Feb 16th 2017 at 6:50:03 AM

[up][up]I mean, if their "Justice Democrats" PAC wasn't enough.

From the replies to the Ellison tweet... I wonder if having them co-chair is actually a good idea. Both have lots of work ahead regardless of who wins, and in any case both have pretty good ideas. Which is going to get Berners mad at them anyway.

Speaking of people running for DNC chair, Sam Ronan, everyone. He did claim that the DNC needs to own allegations of rigging as well.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#174539: Feb 16th 2017 at 7:18:04 AM

[up] And meanwhile...perhaps some Latinos to block him out that day.

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#174540: Feb 16th 2017 at 7:26:14 AM

I hope the IC drops a bombshell during his speech.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#174541: Feb 16th 2017 at 7:29:14 AM

I would really like to avoid a situation where the "deep state" undermines the civilian government of the United States. Granted, that's preferable to a situation where Trump has to be removed by force, but these sort of things are all fun and games until you find yourself on the receiving end.

edited 16th Feb '17 7:29:28 AM by CaptainCapsase

Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#174542: Feb 16th 2017 at 7:34:47 AM

I think in this specific case, if it turns out that Trump was getting deep support from Russia the whole way through, with bribery and hacking and stuff like that involved, it would be okay. Because that would set a precedent for revealing deeply compromised candidates, not for taking out anyone the IC doesn't like.

If they start broadening it, that would be bad, but someone who is clearly compromised on a fundamental level and who is obviously flaunting the law and making illegal moves constantly, while the supposed check and balance that is congress is actively aiding and abetting those illegal moves? Fair game, I say.

edited 16th Feb '17 7:36:05 AM by Zendervai

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Lost in Space
#174543: Feb 16th 2017 at 7:42:30 AM

Agreed. This isn't a case of the intelligence community flexing its muscles to disrupt the power structure against a candidate whose views its members dislike. It's a case of a savagely incompetent and corrupt administration being opposed by everyone in the executive bureaucracy.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#174544: Feb 16th 2017 at 7:43:45 AM

Well what's the alternative? Telling Russia they can install whatever puppet government they want?

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#174545: Feb 16th 2017 at 8:00:41 AM

The only alternative I see to the IC getting this info out that doesn't involve a friend on the inside is hackers. The administration....any hostile administration...will be doing all it can can control the narrative and journalists can only do so much without sources..

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#174546: Feb 16th 2017 at 8:03:12 AM

Fox News Report Card on Donald Trump's first month. To those who don't want to watch Fox News, the video is basically a series of Polls from Fox Viewers. The results?

  • 52% Disapprove of the EO that banned Muslims. 37% Think the EO was a Muslim Ban. The rest think it was a Terrorist Hot Spot Block.
  • 57% Think America is either less safe or at the same safety levels since the EO went up.
  • 49% Think Trump could not handle a Crisis Situation (Although 50% Do).
  • Most importantly, only 48% Approve of Trump so far. 47% Disapprove.

So even among Fox Viewers, Trump is a failure! That should tell everyone a lot.

edited 16th Feb '17 8:27:07 AM by DingoWalley1

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#174547: Feb 16th 2017 at 8:18:20 AM

"Terrorist Hot Spot Block". Sounds like a new version of Hot Topic.

As far as the "Deep State" goes, I definitely do worry about them getting a taste for it, but AFAIK the American intelligence community doing this is as unprecedented as a lot of the things Trump is doing. Although, I'd also argue that the whole "Deep State" framing, whether pro or con, gives the proceedings a sinister light, given that it is not a new thing for whistle-blowers to leak stuff.

Incidentally, as far as the original/actual Deep State in Turkey goes, unlike what Glenn Greenwald says, there's nothing really strange or bad about people in the U.S. or otherwise looking favorably toward them attempting a coup against Erdogan, who is obviously becoming increasingly authoritarian and despotic.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#174548: Feb 16th 2017 at 8:20:55 AM

Ideally after this mess is resolved a Democratic president would pass certain laws and restrictions that make this kind of BS easier to find before someone gets to the White House.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#174549: Feb 16th 2017 at 8:24:52 AM

Oi? Did the audience of Fox suddenly change while we weren't looking?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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Lost in Space
#174550: Feb 16th 2017 at 8:25:16 AM

[up][up]Not without Congress, they wouldn't. And there's some question as to whether establishing additional mandatory, legal requirements on people running for President would be Constitutional.

[up] It is something of an open question whether any Republican administration could be so grossly incompetent and/or corrupt to pierce the information bubble surrounding Fox News viewers, and Trump is most definitely seeking to answer it.

edited 16th Feb '17 8:26:17 AM by Fighteer

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