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Zendervai Visiting from the Hoag Galaxy from St. Catharines Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
Visiting from the Hoag Galaxy
#173701: Feb 10th 2017 at 9:07:05 AM

Suggesting that a country be divided on ethnic and cultural lines raises some really sticky questions about other countries. What about places like Switzerland, Myanmar, Belgium or Canada? Hell, what about 90% of Latin America?

Not Three Laws compliant.
TobiasDrake Queen of Good Things, Honest (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Queen of Good Things, Honest
#173702: Feb 10th 2017 at 9:07:07 AM

Like Trump cares. He doesn't even understand the concept of basic loyalty. Remember all those times he snubbed his employees because he wasn't "satisfied with their work"? Yeah, he won't even keep his end of a written agreement if he decides on a whim that it doesn't suit him. Why would anyone think he'd uphold an unspoken one?

Trump is the epitome of, "Yeah, but what have you done for me lately?"

edited 10th Feb '17 9:07:36 AM by TobiasDrake

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Zendervai Visiting from the Hoag Galaxy from St. Catharines Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
Visiting from the Hoag Galaxy
#173703: Feb 10th 2017 at 9:10:47 AM

[up]Yeah, and lately means within the last 5 seconds.

Although, there are specific people he's randomly loyal to for no apparent reason, like Conway.

Not Three Laws compliant.
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#173704: Feb 10th 2017 at 9:19:47 AM

Trump shouldn't run the country like his businesses because he bankrupted those businesses.

Multiple times.

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#173705: Feb 10th 2017 at 9:21:35 AM

538 is making a series of articles called "The Real Story Of 2016", where they try to give an accurate answer to "how did this happen?", and point out many problems in journalistic coverage of the election.

Their conclusions seem to be that the media coverage had a large effect on the results, by:

  • Not taking Trump seriously enough.
  • Assuming it was Clinton's election to lose when actually many factors were against her.
  • Thanks to both candidates being so unpopular (deservedly or not), the race was very volatile, so media coverage swayed people very easily towards one candidate or the other.
  • Yes, racism was a very significant factor, but in combination with other factors like education level and economics, not the sole factor.

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
DeMarquis Since: Feb, 2010
#173706: Feb 10th 2017 at 9:29:17 AM

On those three executive orders on law enforcement: Trump signs three new executive orders on crime reduction:

1. "One of the orders, aimed at "reduc(ing) crime and restor(ing) public safety," directs Sessions to establish a new Task Force on Crime Reduction and Public Safety.

The Task Force will develop "strategies to reduce crime, including, in particular, illegal immigration, drug trafficking and violent crime," propose new legislation, and submit at least one report to the President within the next year."

2. "A second executive order, aimed at combating transnational drug cartels, prescribes steps for various federal agencies to "increase intelligence" sharing among law enforcement partners. The order also instructs an existing inter-agency working group to submit a report to Trump within four months detailing the progress made in combating criminal organizations, "along with any recommended actions for dismantling them.""

3. "Finally, Trump signed an executive order directing the Justice Department to use existing federal law to prosecute those who commit crimes against law enforcement officers."

So, three orders that create a new task force, a new working group, and directs the JD to prosecute cop killers. Seems like a lot of hot air to me. Just a symbolic action, nothign more.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#173707: Feb 10th 2017 at 9:29:35 AM

[up] A very well thought out and informative series of articles indeed. That last point in particular is something to keep in mind: the climate that produced the 2016 election, and the climate which is propelling so called "Global Trumpism" into positions of power across the world is not something which can be attributed to a single decisive factor such as xenophobia or lack of economic opportunities. Defusing this particular climate will require simultaneously addressing many different and loosely related problems, and will require a degree of popular mobilization against Trump and his counterparts that hasn't been seen in living memory.

edited 10th Feb '17 9:32:14 AM by CaptainCapsase

Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#173708: Feb 10th 2017 at 9:42:16 AM

[up]My mother would like me to remind you that the civil rights movement is very much within living memory, thanks. And, she hopes that that will remain the case for at least 25 more years. tongue

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#173709: Feb 10th 2017 at 9:44:59 AM

[up] I'm not even sure if that level of mobilization will be enough.

DeMarquis Since: Feb, 2010
#173710: Feb 10th 2017 at 9:57:12 AM

@Euo: Who were you speaking to?

pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Cape Malleum Majorem
#173711: Feb 10th 2017 at 10:03:02 AM

A federal appeals court upholds the stay on Trump's travel ban.

Moments after the ruling, Trump Tweeted: "SEE YOU IN COURT!" adding: "THE SECURITY OF OUR NATION IS AT STAKE!"

In response, Washington Governor Jay Inslee, a Democrat who leads one of the states that challenged the ban, said: "Mr. President, we just saw you in court, and we beat you."

[lol][tup][tup][awesome]

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Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#173712: Feb 10th 2017 at 10:05:23 AM

[up][up]Cap-Cap Melencholia, of course. wink (And, hugs to Captain: face it, you tend to see the dark cloud in any silver lining, mate.)

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#173713: Feb 10th 2017 at 10:07:11 AM

FBI Investigating Dakota Pipeline Protestors

Russians possibly infiltrating the Executive Branch? PFFFT. Who gives a shit?!

New Survey coming this weekend!
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#173714: Feb 10th 2017 at 10:10:18 AM

[up][up][up]I'm pleased with this development, as well as the comeback.

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#173715: Feb 10th 2017 at 10:12:35 AM

[up] In the style of this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PALxktAMw3I) let's just say that Trump got COURTOWNED!

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#173716: Feb 10th 2017 at 10:14:42 AM

[up][up] The issue is, by "see you in court", Trump is talking about the supreme court, and assuming he waits until Goursch is appointed, he's got a decent shot of winning that one, since despite the dubious wisdom of that particular clause, the constitution is fairly unambiguous in giving the executive branch wide discretionary power to control immigration.

If he doesn't end up winning and there's a major terrorist attack, he'll use it as a justification to ask for emergency powers, if he does win, he'll have a much easier time banning people from particular countries from entering the United States in the future.

@Euod: No, I just don't think there's any reason to believe things will turn out alright in the end. It might be fine, or it might not be fine.

edited 10th Feb '17 10:20:07 AM by CaptainCapsase

HextarVigar That guy from The Big House Since: Feb, 2015
That guy
#173717: Feb 10th 2017 at 10:20:16 AM

[up][up][up][up]Well, they're injuns. Them redskins can't be trusted, y'know.

Your momma's so dumb she thinks oral sex means talking dirty.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#173718: Feb 10th 2017 at 10:22:04 AM

@Tacticalfox The US Federal Government making life harder for Native Americans and their supporters?

OMG. No. Way.

edited 10th Feb '17 10:22:21 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#173719: Feb 10th 2017 at 10:24:25 AM

[up][up][up] No reason to assume they won't turn our all right, either. Especially in the wake of a few solid victories and other hopeful signs. "Prepare for the worst, hope for the best"

edited 10th Feb '17 10:25:51 AM by sgamer82

pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Cape Malleum Majorem
#173720: Feb 10th 2017 at 10:25:13 AM

[up][up][up][up]No, Trump is still thinking like an unscrupulous businessman, believing he can sue anybody for anything (in civil court, which is not the same thing), and overcome any obstacle if he just throws enough money and enough lawyers at it.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#173721: Feb 10th 2017 at 10:35:19 AM

Trump is on tv holding a press conference alongside Japan's prime Minister

HextarVigar That guy from The Big House Since: Feb, 2015
That guy
#173722: Feb 10th 2017 at 10:37:39 AM

How long until Trump punches him?

Your momma's so dumb she thinks oral sex means talking dirty.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#173724: Feb 10th 2017 at 10:54:32 AM

Just for future reference, the problems with the EC are:

-It weights rural voters disproportionally
-It means that only swing states matter in any way
-People who vote for the other party in safe states basically cast worthless votes
Correct?

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.

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