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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#173401: Feb 9th 2017 at 10:34:21 AM

Just seen on CNN: White House Advisor: "Go buy Ivanka's Stuff"

Don't know the context offhand though.

Also: Rep. Cummings Seeks "Disciplinary Action" For Conway

edited 9th Feb '17 10:35:57 AM by sgamer82

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#173402: Feb 9th 2017 at 10:40:36 AM

[up] some retailers dropped ivanka's stuff, cuz people are boycotting them. Trump got mad, had a twitter-fit, so now conway is having to promote her brand

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speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#173403: Feb 9th 2017 at 10:42:04 AM

[up]x2 Basically Kelly Ann Conway, my favorite person in the world, got in the middle of the Ivanka Trump/Nordstrom thing by telling people to go out and buy Ivanka's stuff. In doing so, she violated ethics rules from Public Citizen and Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington.

"An employee shall not use his public office for his own private gain, for the endorsement of any product, service or enterprise, or for the private gain of friends, relatives, or persons with whom the employee is affiliated in a nongovernmental capacity."

edited 9th Feb '17 10:42:36 AM by speedyboris

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#173404: Feb 9th 2017 at 10:47:35 AM

[up]Cue Trump dismissing that on the grounds of: "We don't care about what the PC CREW says". tongue

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#173405: Feb 9th 2017 at 10:48:20 AM

Republicans aren't going to do crap against Conway, though; at least not this year. I'd be surprised if they did. She won't get kicked out of the White House until 2018 at the least, which is sad: We could have one less Idiot in the White House.sad

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#173406: Feb 9th 2017 at 10:51:44 AM

Silly rabbit, ethics are for liberals.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#173407: Feb 9th 2017 at 10:51:52 AM

At this point, I wonder why we'd want fewer idiots in the White House. With the Democrats in the minority the biggest obstacle for any conservative strategy is the Trump Administration's own incompetence. The last thing we want is to remove idiots and potentially get a competent schemer.

Case in point, a competent president might have been more careful with the Muslim Ban. Enough that it might have worked despite opposition doing all it could.

[down] Another reason to want more idiots, not less. Though I think you mean schadenfreude, there.

edited 9th Feb '17 10:53:43 AM by sgamer82

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#173408: Feb 9th 2017 at 10:52:31 AM

[up][up][up] Well, one benefit is the Scheherazade of watching her mistakes becoming something worth laughing if amusing enough. tongue

edited 9th Feb '17 10:53:06 AM by Luigisan98

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Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#173409: Feb 9th 2017 at 10:54:00 AM

Because Conway's a pretty dangerous idiot, in contast to Spicer, who is so out of his depth as to almost be a Harmless Villain since he's so easy to see through.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#173410: Feb 9th 2017 at 10:56:37 AM

[up] So I suppose the question becomes "are the idiots more dangerous than the competents in this situation?"

Frankly, I think Lord Dampnut is less dangerous in the long term of he's surrounded by idiots. When he's eventually out of the White House, there'll be less public opposition to dismantling his works and might be easier to recover from an international diplomacy standpoint if Trump remains an active laughing stock

edited 9th Feb '17 10:57:36 AM by sgamer82

Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#173411: Feb 9th 2017 at 11:01:31 AM

Both the idiots and the competents come in varying degrees of dangerousness.

Eg. In relative terms, Rick Perry is almost one of the competents (he's actually taking his job seriously or has paid lip service to doing so) and he's far less dangerous than DeVos and Sessions.

NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#173412: Feb 9th 2017 at 11:19:27 AM

What kind of fucking world are we living in where Rick "Oops" Perry is the smart one in the group?

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#173413: Feb 9th 2017 at 11:20:47 AM

[up]The darkest timeline.

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#173414: Feb 9th 2017 at 11:24:05 AM

It feels like that one episode of Hogans heroes, where the gang have to prevent Col. Klink from being transferred because his replacement isnt an idiot.

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Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#173415: Feb 9th 2017 at 11:31:48 AM

The kind where someone still realizes "oh shit, my new job is actually nukes. That's a much bigger deal than what I thought it was about - crippling hard-working oil and coal burners to prop up solar powered hippies"

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#173416: Feb 9th 2017 at 11:37:31 AM

Right. Not only does he lose the chance to cripple whole industries, he probably doesnt know how to use the nukes either. Double win.

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#173417: Feb 9th 2017 at 11:41:45 AM

At least I can understand how Perry might have made that mistake. And how Trump also probably made it. "Secretary of Energy" is a very vague title.

I wouldn't be surprised if Perry asks Trump to rename the position to "Secretary of MOTHERF*CKING NUKES".

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#173418: Feb 9th 2017 at 11:41:55 AM

To give Perry some credit, he seems to be taking the job seriously now.

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#173419: Feb 9th 2017 at 11:59:44 AM

To be fair with Perry he and everyone else, probably assumed he'd just need to take care of the US energy sources and distribution, not be the warden of the US nuclear arsenal.

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#173420: Feb 9th 2017 at 12:00:09 PM

Look, we all know Conway won't even be given a token slap on the wrist for the breach of federal ethics laws. Because the one who is supposed to handle the review of those is her organization... in other words, the White House. Without exaggeration, Trump is not even pretending that "conflict of interest" is a thing and equally distressingly, we're finding out it basically isn't. if you're in the highest office. Pretty much everything in place relied on decorum and accepting that "maybe I shouldn't look like I'm blatantly out for myself over everyone else."

But why would he? He's gotten this far and his approval ratings are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay higher than they should be (granted this says nothing except "it's not 0%) and honestly, he's right. He may as well just boost his businesses. It doesn't matter. The people who supported him before won't stop because of that... they're either too ill-informed or they're being helped themselves.

It's just a dick move. Which he doesn't mind.

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#173421: Feb 9th 2017 at 12:13:48 PM

It should be noted that Conway isn't an idiot. She has no place governing, but she managed to get Trump in the White House and somehow kept him from twitter in those crucial last days. And of all the Trumpists, she's both shameless and unfettered. She can and will say anything, not out of ignorance, but because it works.
Conway is a world apart from Quayle and Palin. And Spicer is no substitute...

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Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#173422: Feb 9th 2017 at 12:57:23 PM

So this is an unfortunate thing. Young conservatives on college campuses are being ostricized and harassed without any good-faith effort to have dialog.

These are possibly the kind of people you want to be extending olive branches to, because shutting them out will only push them toward entrenching deeper.

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#173423: Feb 9th 2017 at 12:59:51 PM

This is pedantic of me, but

"Schadenfreude" is NOT the same thing as "Scheherazade".

[up] Oh, the children of rich folks who complain about "entitlement" and "safe spaces" and who openly deny that racism, sexism, are issues in today's society are having their ideas rejected? Boo fucking hoo.

edited 9th Feb '17 1:01:20 PM by blkwhtrbbt

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#173424: Feb 9th 2017 at 1:01:02 PM

[up][up]That's why you've got to be careful about the kind of knee jerk hatred politics can do easily generate, no matter how blatantly horrid the other side is.

At the risk of setting off a huge tangent (it did last time I used this analogy...) It's the difference between punching a Nazi just because he's a Nazi and punching a Nazi after taking the time to listen to him and realizing he's very punchable.

[up] That's the difference between telling stories about horrible things happening to people and enjoying hearing stories about horrible things happening to people.

[up] That second paragraph goes to my first point. They're still young. The majority have probably only been raised conservative. Do you want to prove that upbringing right?

edited 9th Feb '17 1:03:38 PM by sgamer82

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#173425: Feb 9th 2017 at 1:02:37 PM

I live in the South. I have PLENTY of experience dealing with folks like this and I can say that each and every last one of them deserves nothing better than quiet disdain and Lies to Children.

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