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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
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Fox does a slide comparing Bannon to the leader of ISIS
◊. I've got to say, if you have to compare someone to freaking Bagdhadi for them to look good, you're defending a very shitty person.
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
So, are those are new standards for government post-Trump? ![[down]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/smiles/arrow_down.png "[down]"){kind=icon}
Is that rationalize-able, because I feel like that fact should be a great point in refuting the "Trump will keep us safe" argument...
edited 9th Feb '17 8:38:11 AM by CenturyEye
Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our lives
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x2 Context? Was somebody claiming Bannon was as bad as Daesh and some Fox News host put up this graphic to "refute" that?
At any rate, it doesn't really matter if Bannon hasn't beheaded people or whatever, he's still instrumental in enacting xenophobic policies that cause Daesh and other terrorist groups to gain more members. I mean, when Trump was elected and Daesh celebrated... that says it all, really.
edited 9th Feb '17 8:23:31 AM by speedyboris
That does seem to be the context. It's a fox news look but this seems to be the story. It was in response to a USA Today Op/Ed
Here the original editorial:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/02/05/what-bannon-shares-isil-leader-our-view/97350682/
edited 9th Feb '17 8:43:53 AM by sgamer82
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
Something from that USA Today story:
If Bannon cannot desist, President Trump's out-of-control vanity could become a welcome force for peace. To the modern ear, that might sound ironic, but Muslims and Christians have long been united in understanding that God works in mysterious ways.
That'd be a good thing, then? Because while Bannon may not be as bad as ISIS it ain't a high standard. One could legitimately say that most sex offenders are not as bad as either ISIS or Bannon. Frankly, I think he needs to be sacked and rendered politically irrelevant.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
And given things like the Quiverfull Movement, you could argue that Bannon, as a far-right ideologue does use child soldiers of a sort.
But more importantly, Bannon is a clear and direct threat to the safety, security, and liberty of the USA and all who live within it, while Daesh is barely a threat to us (seriously, so what that they can organize a few violent incidents in other countries - they're tragedies, but they're still things thay should be essentially insignificant to society at large. By panicking, we do exactly what terrorists want.) Daesh is worse in its sphere of influence, true, but its sphere of influence is more or less limited to the Middle East.
edited 9th Feb '17 9:05:40 AM by Balmung
A real bad hombre
Trump to sign three crime EOs today
I get a slightly ominous feeling from this. At best, it'd be an overreaction to a very slight increase in crime after decades of complete and total freefall of crime rates. At worst...
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
Impossible Gender Forge
Oh gosh they haven't even released the full text of them yet. They must be bad.
So, Trump and Trudeau are meeting next week, in person.
Let's see if Trump is as competent as his supporters say he is; destroying the North American alliance singlehandedly would be a pretty epic feat.
http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/pm-trudeau-to-meet-trump-in-washington-next-week-1.3277950
Screaming Into The Void
But didn't you get the memo? The crime rate is the highest it's been in 47 years, Link! Actually, the fact that they said 47 years specifically seems a bit odd, especially since they're just making stuff up...
The heck does "destroying the blood of our youth" mean? Also:
Exactly how does that amount to a 'dangerous permanent trend'? Anyone here speak Republican logic?
It's going to be a fun day, I'm sure. Edit: There's this little voice at the back of my head that keeps saying "welp, we're doomed," for some reason.
edited 9th Feb '17 9:21:41 AM by Pseudopartition
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
Crime control tends to mean controlling black people. THE E Os can be anything from eliminating police oversights to expanding civil forfeiture and other powers. For the children was the same rallying cry that kicked off and sustained the Drug War...
edited 9th Feb '17 9:24:33 AM by CenturyEye
Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our lives
Just saw this pop up
"Exclusive: In call with Putin, Trump denounced Obama-era nuclear arms treaty - sources" - http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-putin-idUSKBN15O2A5
"For the children" is always a go-to-excuse for every dubious public project.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Fox News compares Bannon to Baghdadi....
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It went about as well as you expected.
edited 9th Feb '17 9:31:07 AM by TacticalFox88
New Survey coming this weekend!
I can definitely agree with the idea that the uptick in crime over the past year is a subject worth talking about. But we need to talk about it from the premise of "is there anything that can be done to ensure it's just a temporary uptick", and not as if it's a long term trend like the Trump administration seems to be doing.
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Delicious in the Moomin Valley
Why is Bannon so weirdly-colored? ._.
Like, he's wax yellow on that shot.
Big Grah
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
The thing about statistics is that it can be pure chance. Or, the blip could even be caused by changed reporting requirements or, in rape cases especially, more people coming forward.
We are less safe today, but that has everything to do with Pennsylvania Avenue, not random muggers on Main Street.
edited 9th Feb '17 9:55:55 AM by CenturyEye
Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our lives
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From the original editorial: "What does President Trump's chief strategist have in common with the leader of the Islamic State terror group? Both Steve Bannon and Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi share similar world views. Both harbor apocalyptic visions of a clash of civilizations between Islam and the West."
Just so we know what we are talking about.
edited 9th Feb '17 10:04:54 AM by DeMarquis
I think there’s a global conspiracy to see who can get the most clicks on the worst lies
I won't rule that out, I'm simply saying that there would be nothing inherently with the government look into why the crime rate ticked up last year. If it's just random chance, then they should make sure it's random chance.
The Trump administration is of course too incompetent to be trusted to screw in a lightbulb without making America worse off as a whole, so I have zero faith in their ability to deal with the uptick in crime in a way that doesn't make us worse off as a whole.
edited 9th Feb '17 10:19:34 AM by Falrinn
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
U.S. Crime Rate Rises Slightly, Remains Near 20-Year Low: "...A spike in murders – apparently driven by violence in Chicago, Baltimore and the nation's capital – drove an increase in violent crime in the U.S. in 2015, but crime overall still hovered near historic lows, the FBI said in its latest Crime in the United States report."
I suspect that there is some sort of cross-city gang war going on right now, but that's just speculation on my part.
edited 9th Feb '17 10:27:19 AM by DeMarquis
I think there’s a global conspiracy to see who can get the most clicks on the worst lies
Speculation about Ms. Yates Running for Governor of GA
Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our livesI don't know what to say about this one. She's famous, but opinions are clearly split by those who understand nuance, and even democrats are split minds over some of her past prosecutions...
Why Kasim Reed won’t take a ‘hostile’ stance toward Donald Trump
The short answer is that Atlanta is a far weaker city than NYC or LA and will have to balance covert resistance with rallying supporters.