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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Mitch McConnell telling Elizabeth Warren to sit down and shut up backfired.
Basically, this has only empowered her and other women MORE. Ha!
luigisan: it feel weird you talk about thing not being worst considering you are a fellow venezuelan like me and should now that yes, thing CAN get worst as our on country show it(in fact for the US troper here, if you want to picture venezuela, imagine trump regine that somehow last 18 FUCKING YEARS!) so I can understand the worry of some people here.
but THAT being said I thing some people understimated the response people and some dems have show, the trump administration are having a hard time and trump flaw are showing, THIS is important because it stop things from normalizing which it what dooms us, so I will said to those troper that things could be worst now and the reason it isnt is because people are resisting.
"They also just really hate "liberals" and the Democratic party unconditionally, is what Trump's win tells me, and they especially hated Hillary so here we are. "
if you ask me, I think the problem is republican have convince themselves their party is the only valid expression of democracy, thing are legit when they are in power because they feel like it, this self justification give them a HUGE amount of moral dissonance, at least that is my experience with authoritarian party like my on here.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"![]()
Really, that was an entirely predictable consequence of doing that. Makes me wonder why he bothered. It's not like she was going to stop Sessions from being confirmed, and if she was, this certainly isn't going to nullify the effect she would've had.
It's pretty clear political mis-step on McConnell's part, is what I'm saying.
edited 8th Feb '17 2:01:58 PM by Gilphon
Trump administration seen as more truthful than news media: poll
The administration is considered truthful by 49 percent of registered voters and untruthful by 48 percent.
But the news media is less trusted than the administration, with 53 percent calling it untruthful and just 39 percent finding it honest.
The numbers split along party lines, with nearly 9 in 10 Republicans saying the Trump administration is truthful, compared with more than 3 in 4 Democrats who say the opposite.
The Emerson poll found that 69 percent of Democrats think the news media is truthful while 91 percent of Republicans consider the Fourth Estate untruthful.
Independents, meanwhile, believe both the administration and the news media are untruthful, with 52 percent saying the administration is untruthful and 47 percent saying the same about the media.
The poll echoes Gallup's annual poll on the public's trust in media, which showed before the election that 32 percent of Americans trusted the institution, including just 14 percent of Republicans.
The poll was conducted Feb. 5-6 with a sample of 617 registered voters and a margin of error of 3.9 percentage points.
Yup. Our country needs a reset button.
New Survey coming this weekend!Well, to be fair, Trump has cultivated an image of saying whatever he happens to be thinking, with few filters. That could translate to "honest" for some people. And no one really trusts the infotainment industry anymore.
Thing is, you dont have to think someone is dishonest to be against what they say.
edited 8th Feb '17 2:46:12 PM by DeMarquis
I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.~Link To The Future: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=djq0e46i6s3ccbcr5itgd5d6&page=1
and https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13068965770A55960100&page=1
may be threads to use for this.
Neil Gorsuch, Trump's SC nominee, condemns Trump's statements on Judiciary
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As much as we may not like the Nominee, he at least doesn't appear to be a Trump puppet, which is a good thing for the Courts.
Mitch McConnell is the worst of the worst. Over the last six years, name anything terrible the GOP has done, McConnell was behind it. Government shutdown? Mitch McConnell. Campaign of obstruction? That was his entire mission statement, after first making a promise from 2008 to make Obama a one-term President. Blocking Judge Garland? McConnell was the ringleader.
He even seems to have taken Trump as a challenge to his position as shittiest Republican and responded by talking him out of ordering a dismantling of the Electoral College in a fit of jealous rage regarding Hillary's popular vote. Because Trump is a whining man-baby but Mitch McConnell is pure f*cking evil.
edited 8th Feb '17 3:21:14 PM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.@Beary Scary: hardcore campaigning, protesting, and voting against their agenda. Basically things that are already being done, but they frequently take a long time to have the desired effect.
@Ambar: The near constant moaning of pessimistic defeat gets even more tiring, particularly when accompanied with unrealistic statements of "never going to happen again within our lifetimes" with little to back that up. This has been happening a lot in this thread the past few months and sometimes it makes this thread near impossible to read or participate in. Optimism may be annoying, but constant pessimism is fucking exhausting.
More about the 'Trump trusted more than the media' poll.
There's a link to the raw data; they only questioned 617 people. Still concerning, but I'm not lamenting the death of Western Civilization just yet. More of their respondents were Clinton voters than Trump voters. They also polled on various Trump appointees - DeVos and Bannon aren't highly thought of, but there's overwhelming support for Gorusch. The whole file is fascinating.
(technical question, how do you fix De Vos so it doesn't bluelink? edit: thanks Tropes!)
edited 8th Feb '17 3:57:05 PM by Pseudopartition
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I have no problem with optimism. I have a massive problem with "nothing bad can happen here" and/or demanding that those who do not share your outlook must, which was the tenor of the post(s) I was responding to. If we don't acknowledge that Trump and his cohorts have a real chance of succeeding at pushing their illiberal agenda, than we cannot fight them. I concur that being fatalistic and assuming all is lost is bad, but so too is declaring that there's nothing to be upset about and that the US is somehow intrinsically capable of surviving his rule.
There's a happy medium somewhere between fatalistic depression and unrealistic optimism and we most definitely need to find it. But I don't think that demanding others change their outlook, as some people on both sides of the conversation have been doing is going to help. One thing that will help, and which I said in that post and will repeat here, is to talk about why we feel the way we do. Feeling depressed and like everything is coming to an end? At least tell us why so we can try and look at how right you are and suggest possible solutions. Feeling optimistic and convinced things are going to work out? Tell us why so we may share in that outlook.
To make a long post short we need to get past just sharing our feelings and explain why we are feeling that way. Otherwise I don't think the conversation is going to be very productive.
edited 8th Feb '17 3:44:21 PM by AmbarSonofDeshar

For now on...I'll try in being more rational in my arguments but at the same time, the tropers in the US must contribute to the possible salvation of the nation in many ways and never stop fighting at all, no matter what's thrown at them.
edited 8th Feb '17 11:00:08 AM by Luigisan98
The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.