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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
With all due respect, read the damned study. That's merely a supplement I'm quoting.
Marco Rubio received almost $100K from the family of Betsy DeVos before confirming her
.
it's in fact not even a study, it's a fucking reddit post. Find something peer reviewed (and establish an expert consensus rather than a single study that drew the conclusion that fits your particular ideology's dogma) or you're essentially doing the exact same thing that /pol/ and r/the_donald typically does to "prove" it's points.
edited 7th Feb '17 10:18:06 PM by CaptainCapsase
@Altering the Constitution: Keep in mind that so far, the only thing anyone has expressed any interest in actually changing about the constitution is adding in amendments for a more balanced budget. That's it. And both Republican and Democratic states have been trying to get on this for a while now, long before Trump came into power. Mind you, that doesn't the mean the current GOP won't try to take advantage of the situation and turn the USA into Mordor, but at this point, there isn't as much of a chance of that as you might think, since the GOP isn't the only deciding factor here. And if they did turn the USA into Mordor, you can bet that we'd be having Civil War II posthaste. I'm pretty damn sure the GOP have still held onto their self-preservation instincts if nothing else, so even if they could do something that straight up evil, I'm not sure if they really would, as much as they may want to.
edited 7th Feb '17 10:25:09 PM by kkhohoho
Bad Economics on the effects of deportation of illegal laborers on the US economy
.
Spoilers: It's not good
edited 7th Feb '17 10:37:14 PM by Krieger22
I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
No shit, sherlock. Seriously, all the Federal government had to do was ask Georgia
how well its crackdown on illegal immigrants went.
This is why I wonder why people rail against immigrants when they are willing to do work that said complainants are not.
I've wondered for a long time now why more Americans don't want to do this kind of work. It's a vicious cycle. Some Americans don't want to do the work -> Illegals do the work -> Said Americans deport said illegals -> Now there aren't enough skilled people to do those jobs.
Do not obey in advance.
Never underestimate the power of scapegoating and xenophobia/bigotry.
It also helps that most people don't really have any idea how the economy actually works. The USA would be totally fucked without cheap labor, whether it be from undocumented migrant workers or overseas.
edited 7th Feb '17 11:47:23 PM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprisedPeople do love to pass the buck for their own lives and responsibilities.
I'm Not So Different, but I try not to use that kind of thinking as a crutch.
edited 7th Feb '17 11:52:59 PM by BearyScary
Do not obey in advance.Americans do want to do that work. Often hiring businesses just don't tell them about it or find creative ways to disqualify them. All You Americans are Fired
did a study on this.
That said, immigrant contribution to the economy is hardly just or even mostly cheap labor. Immigrants tend to be risk-taking people—as you'd expect from people who've crossed picked up and effectively changed worlds—and start new businesses at a much greater rate than native-born citizens.
And the USA—Pre-Trump—had an uncanny ability to attract scientists, IT experts, and other skilled labor from abroad.
Also, yeah...Atlanta has to compensate hard to be as much a part of the world economy as it is being in Georgia.
edited 8th Feb '17 3:43:40 AM by CenturyEye
Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our livesAbout that constitutional convention thingy; proposed amendments there need 3/4 of all states. I am not certain what the decision process would be, but if memory serves the number of states where Republicans don't hold full control of the legislature (Vermont, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, Maryland, Delaware, Illinois, Minnesota, Hawaii, California, Oregon, Washingon, Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico, possibly Virginia) is 16-17, and 16/50 is larger than 1/4; i.e they don't have sufficient legislative control to push through stuff indiscriminately.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanThe recent immigration ban spared no one; though probably because they couldn't find a legal way to add "except white persons."
It's not just job reduction, the USA will be cut off from global research and set back years. (Even if Trump is overthrown and Trumpism resigned to history tomorrow, the USA has already changed in the measure of the world as a good place for intellectual freedom and civic freedom that attracts researchers, scholars, and the like). Although, things'll keep being invented and studies published...from Canada.

Question: Earlier someone said Warren had been blocked from speaking about Sessions for quoting the letter that got him barred from being a Federal Judge. But the linked tweet earlier listing the people who voted for that only had 49 names on it. Does that mean it failed? Or was the number for majority lower due to absences or something?
EDIT: Found it. Looks like it was 49/43
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/02/07/republicans-vote-to-rebuke-elizabeth-warren-for-impugning-sessionss-character/?utm_term=.d98fc9aafb4c
edited 7th Feb '17 10:07:47 PM by sgamer82