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BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#173101: Feb 7th 2017 at 3:07:33 PM

[up][up][up][up][awesome]

edited 7th Feb '17 3:08:01 PM by BearyScary

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DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#173102: Feb 7th 2017 at 3:08:40 PM

[up][up] Don't: I just learned that both Women (Susan Collins of Maine and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska) were a part of some Education Council in the Senate that could have actually stopped her, and they could have kept DeVos from continuing forward to a full Senate Vote. In fact, Murkowski's vote was the vote that let DeVos get to the Senate Floor.

edited 7th Feb '17 3:09:37 PM by DingoWalley1

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#173103: Feb 7th 2017 at 3:10:10 PM

Susan Collins (Maine) and Lisa Murkowski (Alaska) were the only two Republican Senators to break ranks.

[nja]

Yeah, it pretty much took a concerted effort to even get these two to break ranks.

edited 7th Feb '17 3:11:13 PM by tclittle

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#173104: Feb 7th 2017 at 3:12:16 PM

Edit: Delayed double post.

edited 7th Feb '17 3:13:32 PM by Silasw

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CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#173105: Feb 7th 2017 at 3:15:44 PM

Collins and Murkowski are just like the rest of the Republican pig dogs. If they had voted against DeVos in committee, none of this would have mattered.

They were probably instructed by McConnell to vote against her. Bipartisanship is a lie.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#173106: Feb 7th 2017 at 3:16:57 PM

Uphill battles. If it takes a direct effort to get even their own education people to try nixing an enemy of education . . . boy we are between rocks and hard places.

I'd say find out everything you can about your ground level civil servants and city level politicians and find out where they're going to draw the line on these people. I get the feeling they're our only hope. And from a conversation I had with a longtime friend who is a special education aide, it sounds like they expect US to keep fighting the battles for them with the congress people.

DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#173107: Feb 7th 2017 at 3:20:11 PM

When a political player offers a concession, the proper response is "More". If more is not forthcoming, then it's "ok, back to the struggle." It doesnt matter who the players are, be they republicans or democrats.

edited 7th Feb '17 3:20:36 PM by DeMarquis

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#173108: Feb 7th 2017 at 3:49:31 PM

Dakota Access Pipeline to win US Army permit for completion

Heidi Heitkamp, a Democrat, said the decision brought "certainty and clarity", while John Hoeven, a Republican, said the pipeline would serve the nation's need for new energy infrastructure.
Environmental groups, including Greenpeace, the Sierra Club, and the Center for Biological Diversity, issued statements criticising the decision.
They accused the Trump administration of putting corporate profits ahead of Native Americans and the environment.
Nearly 700 people have been arrested since protests first began last year, according to law enforcement officials.
Just last week 76 protesters were arrested after refusing to leave land owned by the energy company.
The proposed crossing point for the pipeline is upstream from the tribe's territory, raising fears that any rupture could threaten drinking water supplies.
The pipeline's owner, Dallas-based Energy Transfer Partners, says the project is safe.
Well, its not like some city, Bismarck or something, ever refused having the pipeline on its territory for its pollution concerns...

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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#173109: Feb 7th 2017 at 4:27:42 PM

Oh, and Ted Cruz and Bernie are debating tonight, btw.

>.<

New Survey coming this weekend!
carbon-mantis Collector Of Fine Oddities from Trumpland Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#173112: Feb 7th 2017 at 4:35:43 PM

What does either of them have to gain for this?
Sanders fell into a similar trap during the campaign, and Cruz is probably the most hated republican among republicans...

Is it just some fun while Rome burns?

Also, hahahahaha[up]

edited 7th Feb '17 4:48:57 PM by CenturyEye

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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#173113: Feb 7th 2017 at 4:45:54 PM

@Crimson Zephyr: I realize emotions run high on this topic, but can we not reduce ourselves to calling people pig dogs?

Ok, a few pages back I was very confused when people were referring to leftists and Democrats as if they were entirely separate groups. Like, I'm pretty sure that Democrats are varying shades of being leftists. What was up with that?

Also, man I knew De Vos was going to get in by the hair of Pence's vote, but damn if it's not disappointing that it happened anyway.

[up]I dunno that anyone's actually given a reason for why. I'm going to guess that they want to get their ideas out there, which, well, fair enough. They found a venue and both agreed to it, in a time when neither of them is running for anything. Someone's going to be watching it, though, and possibly come to support one of them, so there's that to gain.

edited 7th Feb '17 4:47:20 PM by AceofSpades

DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#173114: Feb 7th 2017 at 4:48:51 PM

Well, not all democrats are leftists, and not all leftists are democrats (even by the US's biased definition of "leftist").

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#173115: Feb 7th 2017 at 4:49:47 PM

Given the general association of Democrats with the left, that's a rather poor meaning of difference you've given me.

RAlexa21th Zettai Ryouiki Enjoyer from California (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I <3 love!
Zettai Ryouiki Enjoyer
#173116: Feb 7th 2017 at 4:51:03 PM

Left and right are relative. Alice is on Bob's left but Bob is on Charlie's left.

edited 7th Feb '17 4:51:47 PM by RAlexa21th

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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#173117: Feb 7th 2017 at 5:05:44 PM

And again, given the general association of the left and Democrats in America, that is a poor explanation. I'm already aware that positions are relative, I've been in this thread forever, but when you're talking of them as two separate groups when they're usually talked about as Democrats being basically different scales/degrees of leftist, the conversation gets confusing because you've changed the definition of at least one of these words.

I feel like my question isn't being understood.

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#173118: Feb 7th 2017 at 5:06:53 PM

Betsy DeVos promises to get GED (General Education Degree) by her first day of work as Education Sec.

For the love of God! She doesn't even have what's essentially a High School Diploma!

EDIT: Reading over it again, This source may be a Joke Site. My bad if it is.tongue

edited 7th Feb '17 5:17:34 PM by DingoWalley1

DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#173119: Feb 7th 2017 at 5:08:00 PM

The Green Party would like a word with you.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#173120: Feb 7th 2017 at 5:08:45 PM

O___O

How the hell did this woman get anywhere close to this position in the first place? Did she get into some other positions?

Either way, I guess education is fucked for who knows how long. sad

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CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#173121: Feb 7th 2017 at 5:09:47 PM

I'm quite sure Beaverton is in the same field as The Onion. Though that statement wouldn't surprise me...

Also, De Vos was involved in Michigan's education system. I don't know the details, but the people affected don't seem to have had any grizzly problems. Also, she donates alot of money to republican campaigns.

edited 7th Feb '17 5:12:58 PM by CenturyEye

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#173122: Feb 7th 2017 at 5:10:24 PM

According to most leftists, (of which I generally consider myself one) the Democrats are right-wing, and the Republicans are far-right.

If the United States was a bird, it would be one in very bad shape.

edited 7th Feb '17 5:12:18 PM by unnoun

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#173123: Feb 7th 2017 at 5:13:56 PM

@Ace: Lots of people consider the Democrats to be centrist at best, and not really 'left' - or if they do consider the Democrats left, they're not left enough.

It's been fun.
Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#173124: Feb 7th 2017 at 5:22:40 PM

Far Right is "Got Mine Fuck You." Right is "Work For It You Idiot." Center is "Let's Even The Playing Field And Then Work For It." Left is "Why Do I Have To Work So Much For It?" far left is "No Boundaries, No Work, Everybody Gets What They Want Whenever They Want."

ETA: Leftists are trying to cut down the disparities between the top dogs and everyone else, and cut down on the amount of work we need to do to survive. Far leftists are trying to erase class and country and have everyone live in a carefree utopia like Star Trek's Earth supposedly is.

edited 7th Feb '17 5:24:37 PM by Journeyman

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#173125: Feb 7th 2017 at 5:31:06 PM

Far Right is "Got Mine Fuck You.

Also typically accompanied by authoritarianism and "if you're not white and straight you're garbage".

Basically they're scum.


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