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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Ughhhhhhhhhhh.
Sorry, probably not conducive to actual discussion. New question: exactly how much damage can De Vos do in four years?
edited 7th Feb '17 1:00:29 PM by Pseudopartition
Huh. And I thought Matthis was the Only Sane Man (honestly not sure whether to bluelink Sarcasm Mode or Sincerity Mode).
He and possibly also Tillerson and Kelly still are comparatively "sane" insofar as all of them seem to be realists in the vein of Henry Kissinger. Not nice people by any means, but not lunatics, and not incompetent, just callously indifferent towards loss of life on either side.
edited 7th Feb '17 1:03:27 PM by CaptainCapsase
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I'd say Rick Perry is the Only Sane Man now, since he at least realized he's in over his head and seems committed to actually trying to do a good job.
@Pseudopartition
If Trump uses E Os to help speed up her agenda...
edited 7th Feb '17 1:04:29 PM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprised@172,936:
To the public eye, this creates a false impression that Bob is prone to reckless violence, while Jake is an upstanding citizen with a spotless record. Even though the information I released was true, I used that information to mislead and misinform through a procedure known as Lying Through Omission. Jake wins the election because I have convinced you, via selectively editing the facts I have told you without actually telling a single falsehood, that he is a better person than Bob.
Again, do we know the hacks on the RNC were done by the same people as the DNC? In any case, while I'd rather Jake and Bob both be exposed, it's still better that Bob was exposed than neither of them were. You seem to be arguing that if the rapist and pedophile isn't going to be exposed either way, we might as well let the assaulter who broke a man's jaw get away with it too. And really, if the rapist and pedophile has already revealed other things about himself that are worse than the bar fight ("you've got to take out their families", "I grab em' by the pussy and I don't even wait", bring back torture "even if it doesn't work, etc.) should the blame really go more towards the person who exposed Bob than to the people who decided the stuff revealed about Bob was less important than the horrible things we already know about Jake?
You're arguing that revealing the skulduggery of the DNC and the GOP independently and devoid of context are good things, and taken as they are, they would be, but that same principle applied to an interconnected election where Trump is the absolute worst case scenario, the selective reporting is indefensible. We still have to consider the ends, and context matters.
edited 7th Feb '17 1:14:46 PM by CrimsonZephyr
"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."There is also speculation that the regime may actually want the Muslim ban to be overturned in the courts, because that way, they can use that as an excuse to gut the judiciary after an attack occurs. Which Trump has already telegraphed his intention to do.
"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."A teacher on reddit describes in what way will DeVos cause problems in education
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Trump’s loose talk about Muslims gets weaponized in court against travel ban
x3 "he might ask for more surveillance powers inside the U.S. (including fewer restrictions on data mingling and storage and queries)"
Not might, but will. It's pretty much a given that the surveillance state will increase to Orwellian levels under Trump, using the convenient excuse that this is necessary to keep America safe. And he probably won't wait until a hypothesized attack to do it, either, if his ban EO is any indication.
edited 7th Feb '17 1:46:05 PM by speedyboris
I called a Republican senator to complain about the DeVos confirmation and immediately afterwards, I got a threatening phone call from a robot voice. I've reported this to the police.
EDIT: I'm assuming the two are unrelated because sometimes I get spooky phone calls from people I've never heard of looking for other people I've never heard of, but the timing this time is a little suspicious, methinks.
edited 7th Feb '17 1:54:19 PM by ThriceCharming
Well, if someone's trying to scare me, it didn't work, because I just called another Republican senator to complain about DeVos.
I said, "Good afternoon, senator. I am a citizen and a voter. I'd like to let you know that because of your unconscionable decision to confirm Betsy DeVos as Secretary of Education, I will not be voting for you in the 2018 senate race. I will vote for whomever is running against you. Notice that I said 'whomever' and not 'whoever.' That is because I had a great education, which today's children will not have thanks to the power you've given to Betsy DeVos. Thank you for your time, and have a wonderful day."
Come at me, robofuck.
edited 7th Feb '17 4:27:25 PM by ThriceCharming

Trump was convinced by Matthis and his chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Joseph Dunard to authorize the clusterfuck that was the Yemen raid by saying "Obama was too much of a coward to do it."
"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."