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Pseudopartition Screaming Into The Void from The Cretaeceous Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Screaming Into The Void
#173077: Feb 7th 2017 at 12:58:35 PM

Ughhhhhhhhhhh.

Sorry, probably not conducive to actual discussion. New question: exactly how much damage can De Vos do in four years?

edited 7th Feb '17 1:00:29 PM by Pseudopartition

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#173078: Feb 7th 2017 at 12:58:54 PM

Huh. And I thought Matthis was the Only Sane Man (honestly not sure whether to bluelink Sarcasm Mode or Sincerity Mode).

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#173079: Feb 7th 2017 at 12:59:44 PM

[up][up][up] My god, Trump literally can't do anything by himself, can he? He always has to be talked into doing stuff by his subordinates?

[up] Rex Tillerson and the Kushner's seem to be the Sane Men, at least so far.

edited 7th Feb '17 1:00:28 PM by DingoWalley1

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#173080: Feb 7th 2017 at 1:00:07 PM

Mattis has the nickname of "Mad Dog" for a reason. The man is a bloodthirsty warmonger.

Oh really when?
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#173081: Feb 7th 2017 at 1:00:41 PM

He and possibly also Tillerson and Kelly still are comparatively "sane" insofar as all of them seem to be realists in the vein of Henry Kissinger. Not nice people by any means, but not lunatics, and not incompetent, just callously indifferent towards loss of life on either side.

edited 7th Feb '17 1:03:27 PM by CaptainCapsase

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#173082: Feb 7th 2017 at 1:01:45 PM

[up][up][up][up] I'd say Rick Perry is the Only Sane Man now, since he at least realized he's in over his head and seems committed to actually trying to do a good job.

@Pseudopartition

If Trump uses E Os to help speed up her agenda...

edited 7th Feb '17 1:04:29 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
SeriesOfNumbers Since: Jun, 2013
#173083: Feb 7th 2017 at 1:06:57 PM

@172,936:

Imagine that Bob and Jake are running for office. Bob once got into a bar fight and broke a man's jaw. Jake is a pedophile and a rapist. I have documented evidence on both of these things, and I release the information I have on Bob to the public. However, I withhold the evidence on Jake.

To the public eye, this creates a false impression that Bob is prone to reckless violence, while Jake is an upstanding citizen with a spotless record. Even though the information I released was true, I used that information to mislead and misinform through a procedure known as Lying Through Omission. Jake wins the election because I have convinced you, via selectively editing the facts I have told you without actually telling a single falsehood, that he is a better person than Bob.

Again, do we know the hacks on the RNC were done by the same people as the DNC? In any case, while I'd rather Jake and Bob both be exposed, it's still better that Bob was exposed than neither of them were. You seem to be arguing that if the rapist and pedophile isn't going to be exposed either way, we might as well let the assaulter who broke a man's jaw get away with it too. And really, if the rapist and pedophile has already revealed other things about himself that are worse than the bar fight ("you've got to take out their families", "I grab em' by the pussy and I don't even wait", bring back torture "even if it doesn't work, etc.) should the blame really go more towards the person who exposed Bob than to the people who decided the stuff revealed about Bob was less important than the horrible things we already know about Jake?

CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#173084: Feb 7th 2017 at 1:13:21 PM

[up]You're arguing that revealing the skulduggery of the DNC and the GOP independently and devoid of context are good things, and taken as they are, they would be, but that same principle applied to an interconnected election where Trump is the absolute worst case scenario, the selective reporting is indefensible. We still have to consider the ends, and context matters.

edited 7th Feb '17 1:14:46 PM by CrimsonZephyr

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AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#173085: Feb 7th 2017 at 1:13:31 PM

Your example is void because the people who exposed Bob wanted Bob to lose and Jake to win.

Inter arma enim silent leges
Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#173086: Feb 7th 2017 at 1:13:36 PM

Again, do we know the hacks on the RNC were done by the same people as the DNC?

It is highly likely. They found traces of code generally associated with Russian hackers.

carbon-mantis Collector Of Fine Oddities from Trumpland Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
Collector Of Fine Oddities
#173087: Feb 7th 2017 at 1:16:59 PM

@Jill Stein nuttery a few pages back, last I heard the European Greens were seriously pissed that she was giving them a bad name and were imploring their American brethren to find someone less delusional.

3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#173088: Feb 7th 2017 at 1:18:48 PM

Anything from the 9th Circuit, for some good news to go with the bad?

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RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#173089: Feb 7th 2017 at 1:27:03 PM

An article warning of how Trump is poised to seize even more power in the wake of an inevitable terrorist attack.

There is also speculation that the regime may actually want the Muslim ban to be overturned in the courts, because that way, they can use that as an excuse to gut the judiciary after an attack occurs. Which Trump has already telegraphed his intention to do.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#173090: Feb 7th 2017 at 1:28:09 PM

A teacher on reddit describes in what way will DeVos cause problems in education.

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#173092: Feb 7th 2017 at 1:38:51 PM

[up]x3 "he might ask for more surveillance powers inside the U.S. (including fewer restrictions on data mingling and storage and queries)"

Not might, but will. It's pretty much a given that the surveillance state will increase to Orwellian levels under Trump, using the convenient excuse that this is necessary to keep America safe. And he probably won't wait until a hypothesized attack to do it, either, if his ban EO is any indication.

edited 7th Feb '17 1:46:05 PM by speedyboris

AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#173093: Feb 7th 2017 at 1:51:30 PM

Guys, there's not much point in arguing with the Trump troll. I know I'm not great at staying out of arguments myself, but there's simply no sense in wasting time by talking to someone who does not appear to be arguing in good faith.

edited 7th Feb '17 2:04:44 PM by AmbarSonofDeshar

ThriceCharming Since: Nov, 2013
#173094: Feb 7th 2017 at 1:52:59 PM

I called a Republican senator to complain about the DeVos confirmation and immediately afterwards, I got a threatening phone call from a robot voice. I've reported this to the police.

EDIT: I'm assuming the two are unrelated because sometimes I get spooky phone calls from people I've never heard of looking for other people I've never heard of, but the timing this time is a little suspicious, methinks.

edited 7th Feb '17 1:54:19 PM by ThriceCharming

AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#173095: Feb 7th 2017 at 1:55:34 PM

[up]More than a little concerning. Hope it turns out to be nothing.

Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#173096: Feb 7th 2017 at 1:59:22 PM

No, if it's a robot voice it probably IS related. Maybe not, but if this is the first time it was a robot doing it, I'd say it's their office attacking you over not falling in line.

ThriceCharming Since: Nov, 2013
#173097: Feb 7th 2017 at 2:37:34 PM

Well, if someone's trying to scare me, it didn't work, because I just called another Republican senator to complain about DeVos.

I said, "Good afternoon, senator. I am a citizen and a voter. I'd like to let you know that because of your unconscionable decision to confirm Betsy DeVos as Secretary of Education, I will not be voting for you in the 2018 senate race. I will vote for whomever is running against you. Notice that I said 'whomever' and not 'whoever.' That is because I had a great education, which today's children will not have thanks to the power you've given to Betsy DeVos. Thank you for your time, and have a wonderful day."

Come at me, robofuck.

edited 7th Feb '17 4:27:25 PM by ThriceCharming

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#173099: Feb 7th 2017 at 2:53:18 PM

I'm pretty sure we did this whole 'yeah but at least one was exposed' song and dance a few weeks ago, so yeah, let's move on.

Yeah, that robocall business sounds very suspicious and very Trump-GOP.

It's been fun.
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A procrastination in of itself
#173100: Feb 7th 2017 at 3:04:49 PM

By the way which Republicans broke ranks? It may be worth calling them and giving thanks right now.

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