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DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#172501: Feb 4th 2017 at 7:40:10 AM

The most frustrating thing about it is, it didnt have to be this way. If we had delivered on our promises to fully assist the FSA four years ago, Northern Syria could have been a democracy by now.

Water under the bridge, of course.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#172502: Feb 4th 2017 at 8:08:09 AM

In a situation like that, which side are the civilians supposed to take?

The Kurds, who are by and large moral in their conduct, good on women's rights, the main fighters against ISIS and who are actually becoming[ more and more multi-cultural (having renamed their country to simple be the North Syrian Federation).

edited 4th Feb '17 8:11:58 AM by Silasw

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#172503: Feb 4th 2017 at 8:23:37 AM

DHS just announced they are no longer enforcing the immigration order, resuming normal inspections while Trump screams at the judge. [1]

No word on on those canceled visas, though.

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#172504: Feb 4th 2017 at 8:29:46 AM

What about the CBP? Weren't they defying court orders and simultaneously panicking at all the massive mobs wanting a piece of them while their bosses in the government were silent?

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#172505: Feb 4th 2017 at 8:31:48 AM

He's not only appealing it, he's also trying to get CBP agents to ignore it. It seems that, as of now, CBP is obeying the court.

I gotta say that this is going to be a major test. We know that Donald Trump is willing to ignore the courts, and that Congress won't do anything about him doing so, so it's kind of up to the various agencies to refuse to obey Trump's orders. If they don't, then there isn't much the courts can actually do - and if that becomes apparent, say goodbye to any restraint whatsoever.

edited 4th Feb '17 8:32:13 AM by Ramidel

ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#172506: Feb 4th 2017 at 8:32:01 AM

[up][up]The federal judge in Seattle ordered a nationwide halt to the order, but I have not yet found any updates on compliance in CBP or any releases in the airports still holding detainees.

[up]And [nja]'d.

edited 4th Feb '17 8:33:26 AM by ViperMagnum357

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#172507: Feb 4th 2017 at 8:53:22 AM

As of yesterday, Dulles Airport still appears to be non-compliant and not allowing detainees to see lawyers. The news is mostly focusing on how they detained and questioned the former PM of Norway for saying he'd once visited Iran.

Edit: The lawyer groups working Dulles have set up a website and a Twitter account: dullesjustice.org and @Dulles Justice. That looks like it's going to be the best space to watch for that situation.

edited 4th Feb '17 8:58:54 AM by Elle

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#172508: Feb 4th 2017 at 8:58:38 AM

I'm just waiting for a major fuck up, like a diplomat being detained and his bags searched.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#172509: Feb 4th 2017 at 9:01:06 AM

Remember how we were talking about whether fighting De Vos or Sessions is more important? Apparently fighting De Vos is forcing the Republicans to hold Sessions' confirmation hearing back so they can get his vote for her. Or so Rachel Maddow tells me.

ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#172510: Feb 4th 2017 at 9:01:22 AM

@Rational Insanity: That already happened: they detained the former Prime Minister of Norway for several hours.

edited 4th Feb '17 9:01:47 AM by ViperMagnum357

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#172512: Feb 4th 2017 at 9:09:40 AM

No, a real screw up would be if he were the acting PM or an actual diplomat. Stopping and searching them violates the "diplomatic immunity" parts of international law. Stopping the former PM is scandal rather than international incident.

edited 4th Feb '17 9:11:27 AM by Elle

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#172513: Feb 4th 2017 at 9:10:46 AM

So, in other words...just another Tuesday on the Trump Show?

Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#172515: Feb 4th 2017 at 9:30:31 AM

It's on a mobile game's "do this to earn in-game premium currency" list as well.

But remember, it's only #PaidProtester if they support the Democrats.

edited 4th Feb '17 9:31:13 AM by Deadbeatloser22

"Yup. That tasted purple."
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#172516: Feb 4th 2017 at 9:39:12 AM

Remember, shilling is only bad if the Democrats do it.

Inter arma enim silent leges
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#172517: Feb 4th 2017 at 9:52:55 AM

Everything is okay when Republicans do it, up to and including sexual assault as of last November.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#172518: Feb 4th 2017 at 10:38:40 AM

@State Department and Visas: Wow. Rex Tillerson just got major thumbs up from me.

Maybe he won't suck after all. That'd be really nice.

ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#172519: Feb 4th 2017 at 10:45:05 AM

[up]...And now I am wondering if this is a smokescreen to conceal a more effective and well-thought-out ban in the near future, or if Tillerson might get sacked for not being enough of a toady.

This regime is doing a number on my sanity.

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
HextarVigar That guy from The Big House Since: Feb, 2015
That guy
#172521: Feb 4th 2017 at 11:15:27 AM

Well, it's Arkansas, so...

Your momma's so dumb she thinks oral sex means talking dirty.
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#172522: Feb 4th 2017 at 11:16:13 AM

Careful linking RT. That's owned by the Russian government. Even the American branch.

edited 4th Feb '17 11:16:33 AM by LeGarcon

Oh really when?
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#172523: Feb 4th 2017 at 11:16:22 AM

Got a better source than RT? Apparently the law allows doctors (not women) to be sued, but that's still fucked up on every level.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#172524: Feb 4th 2017 at 11:19:13 AM

I agree that Russia Today isn't the best source, however, the Independent is saying the same thing.

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#172525: Feb 4th 2017 at 11:19:17 AM

[up][up][up][up] When you view your opponents as evil incarnate, and the population isn't very well-versed in critical thinking, it becomes possible to justify pretty much anything, or brush any flaws your "side" has under the rug, because no matter what they do, the other side will always be worse.

Trump could literally be followed by the Son of Satan, and he could prove it, and people would still find ways to justify voting for him because they'd find whatever democrat he's running against to be worse somehow.

edited 4th Feb '17 11:20:09 AM by Draghinazzo


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