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Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#164251: Dec 26th 2016 at 5:46:42 PM

Saying he won't be releasing anything about Russia because of the 'open and competitive debate that exists there' (and by implication, not in the US) says he's under Putin's thumb to me. Surely one can't be that detached from reality and still manage to run a place like Wikileaks.

edited 26th Dec '16 5:47:46 PM by Gilphon

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#164252: Dec 26th 2016 at 6:09:16 PM

[up][up][up]I was questioning String of Numbers on if they consider Assange a remotely credible source on the issue of Russia.

Anyone who says that open political debate is present and free in Russia is either piss ignorant or flat out lying. End of discussion. Assange is a Putin stooge, possibly a rapist, and a proven liar (of the selective sort), The man has no credibility. Of all the modern, sledgehammer style leakers (a group I have no love for), he's by far the worst. Even Snowden, who in most countries (the US is strange on that front) would be considered a traitor), isn't the bald faced liar that Assange is.

edited 26th Dec '16 6:12:05 PM by Rationalinsanity

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
tricksterson Never Trust from Behind you with an icepick Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Never Trust
#164253: Dec 26th 2016 at 8:14:20 PM

16422: First he says that Trump has no intention of "draining the swamp", now this. Is Gingrich trying to sabotage Trump?

Trump delenda est
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#164254: Dec 26th 2016 at 8:16:38 PM

I wouldn't put it past him, if he's been offered the right price.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#164255: Dec 26th 2016 at 8:23:23 PM

There is now a change.org petition to have The Rockettes perform to Springtime for Hitler at Trump's inauguration.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#164256: Dec 26th 2016 at 9:02:38 PM

Assange is biased, there's no way around that. He's hated the Clintons for years. And as for Russia? Well, it is kind of suspicious that he hasn't received or released anything really damaging on the Russian government and Putin for years.

As for Snowden...I'm still laughing at the irony of his tweet claiming that the election was a choice between Trump and Goldman Sachs.

edited 26th Dec '16 9:03:51 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#164257: Dec 26th 2016 at 9:14:32 PM

[up]This happened around the time Wikileaks threatened to dump something on the Russians. As they say, things have never been the same since then.

Snowden: He underestimated the American public's resourcefulness. Who else would be brilliant enough to get both for the price of one?

EDIT: The Trump Foundation's 2015 tax filing admitted that it had committed "self dealing" in that year and in prior years.

edited 26th Dec '16 9:56:45 PM by Krieger22

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#164258: Dec 27th 2016 at 2:00:47 AM

Two articles from Yahoo News — one originally from Reuters and the other from AFP — have Obama go on record that he could've won a third term if he was allowed to run. Trump naturally takes offense to that.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
tricksterson Never Trust from Behind you with an icepick Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Never Trust
#164259: Dec 27th 2016 at 7:03:41 AM

Not having the baggage Clinton did there's no doubt in my mind that Obama would have demolished Trump.

Trump delenda est
pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Cape Malleum Majorem
#164260: Dec 27th 2016 at 7:26:06 AM

Trump takes offense to everything. He's so thin-skinned, he needs that spray-on tan to keep his internal organs from showing through.

This Space Intentionally Left Blank.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#164261: Dec 27th 2016 at 8:14:07 AM

I still can't believe how bothered he is at the 'tiny hands' thing. A president should not be so petty.

Wildcard Since: Jun, 2012
#164262: Dec 27th 2016 at 8:22:56 AM

You know I'm wondering. Looking back at the last 7 years I can't help but think if Gay Marriage was legalized back in 2009 or 2010 Romney might have been elected but I don't think Trump would have. Then the rural voters going "There takin' our Country! Make it white again!" Wouldn't have had as much to rally around.

Too bad the Supreme Court couldn't have done it earlier.

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#164264: Dec 27th 2016 at 9:53:49 AM

Trump tweets out "Happy Hanukkah!" Twitter Nazis go nuts.

edited 27th Dec '16 9:54:06 AM by tclittle

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#164265: Dec 27th 2016 at 10:00:03 AM

Which, to be clear, will have the effect of improving his image among everyone who's not literally a nazi.

But a tiny bit of good press for Trump is a price I'm willing to pay for pushing nazis away from the mainstream.

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#164266: Dec 27th 2016 at 10:22:33 AM

Coal voters who voted Trump worried about losing Obamacare

These coal country voters backed Trump. Now they’re worried about losing Obamacare.

(Mark Lyons/European Pressphoto Agency) Last night, CNN aired a terrific segment on people from coal country who voted for Donald Trump — but are now worried that his vow to repeal Obamacare will deprive them of crucial protections that enable them to stay afloat financially. This dovetails with other reporting that suggests a lot of Trump voters may be harmed by repeal of the law.

Which raises a question: Did voters such as these know they were voting for this? After all, Trump promised countless times throughout the campaign to repeal the Affordable Care Act, didn’t he? If they are complaining about this now, don’t they have only themselves to blame?

Lol.

I have no sympathy, tbh.

New Survey coming this weekend!
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#164267: Dec 27th 2016 at 10:25:58 AM

[up] That's the attitude that will be the death of American democracy. Trump's mismanagement will certainly prime the pump, but the floodgate I suspect will be opened by centrist democrats who the find the notion of a democracy producing an outcome that does not align with their agenda increasingly unacceptable. Their solution will be, of course, to eliminate democracy so the ignorant proles can no longer interfere with their great work.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#164268: Dec 27th 2016 at 10:27:01 AM

What even are you talking about?

Oh really when?
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#164269: Dec 27th 2016 at 10:28:13 AM

[up] The GOP's current portrayal of democrats is pretty much going to be spot on 10 years from now if I'm right about the direction the democrats are headed; in order to reconcile Trump's victory with their world view, they will, by necessity conclude that the general American population irredeemably stupid, and thus conclude that democracy was a mistake, to make a long story short.

edited 27th Dec '16 10:30:32 AM by CaptainCapsase

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#164270: Dec 27th 2016 at 10:30:13 AM

You mean the marxist dictatorship?

If that even happened, they have a lion's share of the blame. Not that they'll ever admit it.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#164271: Dec 27th 2016 at 10:30:50 AM

Where are you even getting this though?

Oh really when?
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#164272: Dec 27th 2016 at 10:31:58 AM

[up] The way people have been reacting to Trump's victory on the left; people, some of them very educated are talking bout "what can we do to suppress the white vote" rather than asking "is there a way we can make our appeal more universal without compromising our values?" People in the social justice community are already concluding that, because half of America is irredeemably racist and deplorable, democracy is incapable of accomplishing their ultimate goal of an equal and fair society.

edited 27th Dec '16 10:34:53 AM by CaptainCapsase

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#164273: Dec 27th 2016 at 10:34:09 AM

People's knee jerk authoritarian impulses and bitterness at the gullibility and malice of the american public on the internet aren't necessarily indicative that their politicians feel the same way.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#164274: Dec 27th 2016 at 10:35:33 AM

[up] Politicians as a group are inherently opportunistic. If there's a demand for an authoritarian center-left in the base, it's quite likely someone will arise who caters to that impulse eventually, as was the case with Trump.

Before you point out that Trump's election was the fault of America's political system not being democratic enough, that's the crowning irony; Trump is not a case of the tyranny of the masses, he is a tyranny of a minority enforced on us by an undemocratic political system. Opportunistic would be dictators will conveniently forget that though, and among the economic elites of America, support for democratic systems are at an all time low.

edited 27th Dec '16 10:40:13 AM by CaptainCapsase

Wildcard Since: Jun, 2012
#164275: Dec 27th 2016 at 10:40:16 AM

@Captain: IF that is the case then we can look forward to a popularist failing his or her base, just like the Trump voters will feel failed by trump because he doesn't improve their lives.


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