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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
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I was questioning String of Numbers on if they consider Assange a remotely credible source on the issue of Russia.
Anyone who says that open political debate is present and free in Russia is either piss ignorant or flat out lying. End of discussion. Assange is a Putin stooge, possibly a rapist, and a proven liar (of the selective sort), The man has no credibility. Of all the modern, sledgehammer style leakers (a group I have no love for), he's by far the worst. Even Snowden, who in most countries (the US is strange on that front) would be considered a traitor), isn't the bald faced liar that Assange is.
edited 26th Dec '16 6:12:05 PM by Rationalinsanity
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.There is now a change.org petition to have The Rockettes perform to Springtime for Hitler
at Trump's inauguration.
Assange is biased, there's no way around that. He's hated the Clintons for years. And as for Russia? Well, it is kind of suspicious that he hasn't received or released anything really damaging on the Russian government and Putin for years.
As for Snowden...I'm still laughing at the irony of his tweet claiming that the election was a choice between Trump and Goldman Sachs.
edited 26th Dec '16 9:03:51 PM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprised
This
happened around the time Wikileaks threatened to dump something on the Russians. As they say, things have never been the same since then.
Snowden: He underestimated the American public's resourcefulness. Who else would be brilliant enough to get both for the price of one?
edited 26th Dec '16 9:56:45 PM by Krieger22
I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiotTwo
articles
from Yahoo News — one originally from Reuters and the other from AFP — have Obama go on record that he could've won a third term if he was allowed to run. Trump naturally takes offense to that.
You know I'm wondering. Looking back at the last 7 years I can't help but think if Gay Marriage was legalized back in 2009 or 2010 Romney might have been elected but I don't think Trump would have. Then the rural voters going "There takin' our Country! Make it white again!" Wouldn't have had as much to rally around.
Too bad the Supreme Court couldn't have done it earlier.
Trump tweets out "Happy Hanukkah!" Twitter Nazis go nuts.
edited 27th Dec '16 9:54:06 AM by tclittle
"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."Coal voters who voted Trump worried about losing Obamacare
(Mark Lyons/European Pressphoto Agency) Last night, CNN aired a terrific segment on people from coal country who voted for Donald Trump — but are now worried that his vow to repeal Obamacare will deprive them of crucial protections that enable them to stay afloat financially. This dovetails with other reporting that suggests a lot of Trump voters may be harmed by repeal of the law.
Which raises a question: Did voters such as these know they were voting for this? After all, Trump promised countless times throughout the campaign to repeal the Affordable Care Act, didn’t he? If they are complaining about this now, don’t they have only themselves to blame?
Lol.
I have no sympathy, tbh.
New Survey coming this weekend!
That's the attitude that will be the death of American democracy. Trump's mismanagement will certainly prime the pump, but the floodgate I suspect will be opened by centrist democrats who the find the notion of a democracy producing an outcome that does not align with their agenda increasingly unacceptable. Their solution will be, of course, to eliminate democracy so the ignorant proles can no longer interfere with their great work.
The GOP's current portrayal of democrats is pretty much going to be spot on 10 years from now if I'm right about the direction the democrats are headed; in order to reconcile Trump's victory with their world view, they will, by necessity conclude that the general American population irredeemably stupid, and thus conclude that democracy was a mistake, to make a long story short.
edited 27th Dec '16 10:30:32 AM by CaptainCapsase
The way people have been reacting to Trump's victory on the left; people, some of them very educated are talking bout "what can we do to suppress the white vote" rather than asking "is there a way we can make our appeal more universal without compromising our values?" People in the social justice community are already concluding that, because half of America is irredeemably racist and deplorable, democracy is incapable of accomplishing their ultimate goal of an equal and fair society.
edited 27th Dec '16 10:34:53 AM by CaptainCapsase
Politicians as a group are inherently opportunistic. If there's a demand for an authoritarian center-left in the base, it's quite likely someone will arise who caters to that impulse eventually, as was the case with Trump.
Before you point out that Trump's election was the fault of America's political system not being democratic enough, that's the crowning irony; Trump is not a case of the tyranny of the masses, he is a tyranny of a minority enforced on us by an undemocratic political system. Opportunistic would be dictators will conveniently forget that though, and among the economic elites of America, support for democratic systems are at an all time low.
edited 27th Dec '16 10:40:13 AM by CaptainCapsase

Saying he won't be releasing anything about Russia because of the 'open and competitive debate that exists there' (and by implication, not in the US) says he's under Putin's thumb to me. Surely one can't be that detached from reality and still manage to run a place like Wikileaks.
edited 26th Dec '16 5:47:46 PM by Gilphon