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tricksterson Never Trust from Behind you with an icepick Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#163977: Dec 23rd 2016 at 3:11:40 PM

So, the Trump campaign's NY co-chair was caught saying some racist shit about the Obamas. He wants President Obama to get Mad Cow disease, and said that Michelle was really a man and that she should go back to Africa and live with gorillas essentially.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/23/politics/carl-paladino-mad-cow-obamas/index.html?sr=fbCNN122316carl-paladino-mad-cow-obamas0910PMStoryLink&linkId=32719619

The Fuhrer's inner circle has yet to comment, but assface here says that his comments were racial and that the media questioning them means that the Obamas really are that bad.

edited 23rd Dec '16 3:11:52 PM by Rationalinsanity

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#163978: Dec 23rd 2016 at 3:13:37 PM

I would really love him to run for NYS governor again because he would get absolutely obliterated by any democrat. Obliterated even more than he was last time he ran at least.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#163979: Dec 23rd 2016 at 3:26:04 PM

[up][up][up]I was thinking something similar actually. I just wonder what happens when Putin or Trump does something that pisses the other one off.

edited 23rd Dec '16 3:26:20 PM by Kostya

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#163980: Dec 23rd 2016 at 3:38:39 PM

[up] That's the real danger. Trump is the more dangerous of the two in that regards, Putin probably doesn't give a shit as long as Trump's comments don't undermine his control of Russia.

Psyclone Since: Jan, 2001
#163981: Dec 23rd 2016 at 3:44:14 PM

Edit:Nvm

edited 23rd Dec '16 3:45:48 PM by Psyclone

RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#163982: Dec 23rd 2016 at 4:02:02 PM

I would really love him to run for NYS governor again because he would get absolutely obliterated by any democrat. Obliterated even more than he was last time he ran at least.

Remember when people were saying "I really hope Trump gets the nomination because he'll get absolutely obliterated and it'll be an easy win for the Democrats?"

We can't afford to take things for granted anymore.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#163983: Dec 23rd 2016 at 4:02:54 PM

[up] Trump got obliterated in New York though, almost as badly as in CA.

RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#163984: Dec 23rd 2016 at 4:05:33 PM

Not my point. My point is that if there was ever a time where we could afford to look at the most despicable people in the world and go "let's give him a shot at office because they'll make for easy victories," that time has passed. It's not a risk we can take anymore, especially with the GOP already doing everything in their power to subvert democracy.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
StarOutlaw Since: Nov, 2010
#163985: Dec 23rd 2016 at 4:17:21 PM

We're in a dangerous spot now where the GOP can rewrite the rules so they can stay in power. We still have the vote, but they have voter suppression to implement.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#163986: Dec 23rd 2016 at 4:18:46 PM

[up] We have to worry about that in red states and swing states much more than in blue states. Efforts at starving out blue states in terms of federal funding are a much bigger concern of mine in regards to my home state.

RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#163987: Dec 23rd 2016 at 4:20:25 PM

[up][up] That's one reason I want Tom Perez for DNC chair - he's said that focusing on fighting back against voter suppression would be one of his main priorities. And as I've stated many a time, that's going to be absolutely crucial if we want to retake power from the GOP someday. All we need to win is a level playing field - but we don't have that, and haven't had it for some time.

edited 23rd Dec '16 4:20:33 PM by RBluefish

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
StarOutlaw Since: Nov, 2010
#163988: Dec 23rd 2016 at 4:21:20 PM

I'm assuming there is no effective way to suppress red voters in any state. How many states wouldn't even be swing or red if there was no suppression?

RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#163989: Dec 23rd 2016 at 4:23:12 PM

Plenty.

What the GOP is doing to people's voting rights should be an actual crime. People should be being prosecuted for this.

'Course, a lot of what's going on right now should result in people being prosecuted. Our institutions are already failing us.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#163990: Dec 23rd 2016 at 4:30:48 PM

Okay, so some people might know I've gone on record in saying that we've become an anime; specifically, we've become the Free Planets Alliance from Legend Of Galactic Heroes.Eventually I figured, hey, why not put that on the actual LOGH page? And to that end, I put the following on it's respective YMMV section:

However, some yahoo apparently took that just a wee bit too personally and turned it into this:

Also, in case you feel there's no need to run over the highlights again, the real damning thing about this is that whatever f'er edited this changed 'Donald Trump' into 'Barack Obama.' I'm all for having different opinions, but you don't need to express them by blatantly editing an already existing one. This is just a whole new level of fuckery. (I already changed it back of course, but still.)

edited 23rd Dec '16 4:35:07 PM by kkhohoho

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#163991: Dec 23rd 2016 at 4:35:34 PM

@Bluefish: I vastly prefer Ellison; if we want to unite the country, we need a viable left wing alternative to Trump; the presence of such parties (the SNP and that leftist Irish party) in Scotland and Northern Ireland are arguably a big part of why they didn't vote for Brexit, and you also saw something similar in Austria, where they elected a Green president rather than the far right ultra-nationalist.

[up] You really shouldn't politicize works pages, even YMMV pages.

edited 23rd Dec '16 4:36:13 PM by CaptainCapsase

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#163992: Dec 23rd 2016 at 4:37:48 PM

The Rule Of Cautious Editing Judgement exists for a reason, people.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#163993: Dec 23rd 2016 at 4:42:18 PM

Basically comes back to what I said earlier: the democrats need everything to go right for them. I mean, the last two Democrats basically did.

Bill Clinton was a charismatic, gregarious, youthful candidate who got his entire party to rally around him up against an unenthused republican who was dealing with a bad economy, the fruits of raising taxes in this environment despite very famously promising not to do so (which Clinton and the democrats ruthlessly exploited in ad campaigns), a fractured republican coalition, and his main accomplishments in foreign policy taking a backseat to economic issues.

Obama was much the same, banking on being an extremely charismatic youthful politician who got people motivated to vote, against a Republican who supported the Iraq War and had everyone concerned that he'd croak during office, a VP pick perceived as an out-of-touch and inexperienced woman undercutting his main line of attack against Obama (experience), all of this in the middle of negative public opinion about the last Republican candidate, and again, bad economy.

For Trump the democrats will basically need another golden boy who rallies the whole party around him/her, the economy to be doing sufficiently bad, a few really bad and obvious fuckups on Trump's part, and Trump failing to meet enough of his promises that there's a collapse in his turnout. The voter suppression is probably the biggest problem going forward in that regard since I see all of the aforementioned conditions plausible or even likely to a certain degree.

edited 23rd Dec '16 4:43:54 PM by Draghinazzo

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#163994: Dec 23rd 2016 at 4:43:06 PM

[up][up][up]Someone else obviously thought the same thing, as in just minutes from putting up my previous post, someone took down the original excerpt from the YMMV page. I guess I'll just leave it down for now; better than than someone twisting it again.

edited 23rd Dec '16 4:43:20 PM by kkhohoho

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#163995: Dec 23rd 2016 at 4:44:01 PM

Yes, I nuked the entry for being flamebait.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#163997: Dec 23rd 2016 at 4:47:00 PM

[up][up][up][up] I'll admit this is both wanton speculation and wishful thinking on my part, but in terms of who might prove to be an Obama 2.0 - I'm liking the look of Kamala Harris. She's comparatively young, she's not white, she's female, and she's unashamedly progressive - including speaking out openly against the Orange One and his agenda.

edited 23rd Dec '16 4:47:07 PM by RBluefish

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#163998: Dec 23rd 2016 at 4:53:24 PM

Why do some people keep trying to say that Michelle Obama is a man?

Do not obey in advance.
IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#163999: Dec 23rd 2016 at 4:59:54 PM

(some) Trump supporters are hateful little pieces of shit, so they feel they must use transphobic insults to demean Michelle Obama because they think it somehow makes the next FLOTUS look "better"?

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#164000: Dec 23rd 2016 at 5:00:23 PM

Looking at Harris I like her but being both a woman AND a Po C is going to be kind of an uphill battle. I mean, Obama managed to win in spite of being a black man which I think is a huge testament to how personable and inspiring he is (and if I'm being more cynical, how good he was at not offending white people's sensibilities and making them feel like they could trust him).

Seeing her beat Trump though(in a landslide, preferrably) ...I don't think I could accurately describe the catharsis I'd get from that. Like, can you imagine the salt from the Republicans at having another one-term president unseated by a NON-WHITE woman? I'd have enough schadenfreude to go around until the next election.

edited 23rd Dec '16 5:03:13 PM by Draghinazzo


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