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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
So, the Trump campaign's NY co-chair was caught saying some racist shit about the Obamas. He wants President Obama to get Mad Cow disease, and said that Michelle was really a man and that she should go back to Africa and live with gorillas essentially.
The Fuhrer's inner circle has yet to comment, but assface here says that his comments were racial and that the media questioning them means that the Obamas really are that bad.
edited 23rd Dec '16 3:11:52 PM by Rationalinsanity
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.Remember when people were saying "I really hope Trump gets the nomination because he'll get absolutely obliterated and it'll be an easy win for the Democrats?"
We can't afford to take things for granted anymore.
"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."Not my point. My point is that if there was ever a time where we could afford to look at the most despicable people in the world and go "let's give him a shot at office because they'll make for easy victories," that time has passed. It's not a risk we can take anymore, especially with the GOP already doing everything in their power to subvert democracy.
"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."![]()
That's one reason I want Tom Perez for DNC chair - he's said that focusing on fighting back against voter suppression would be one of his main priorities. And as I've stated many a time, that's going to be absolutely crucial if we want to retake power from the GOP someday. All we need to win is a level playing field - but we don't have that, and haven't had it for some time.
edited 23rd Dec '16 4:20:33 PM by RBluefish
"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."Plenty.
What the GOP is doing to people's voting rights should be an actual crime. People should be being prosecuted for this.
'Course, a lot of what's going on right now should result in people being prosecuted. Our institutions are already failing us.
"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."Okay, so some people might know I've gone on record in saying that we've become an anime; specifically, we've become the Free Planets Alliance from Legend Of Galactic Heroes.Eventually I figured, hey, why not put that on the actual LOGH page? And to that end, I put the following on it's respective YMMV section:
However, some yahoo apparently took that just a wee bit too personally and turned it into this:
Also, in case you feel there's no need to run over the highlights again, the real damning thing about this is that whatever f'er edited this changed 'Donald Trump' into 'Barack Obama.' I'm all for having different opinions, but you don't need to express them by blatantly editing an already existing one. This is just a whole new level of fuckery. (I already changed it back of course, but still.)
edited 23rd Dec '16 4:35:07 PM by kkhohoho
@Bluefish: I vastly prefer Ellison; if we want to unite the country, we need a viable left wing alternative to Trump; the presence of such parties (the SNP and that leftist Irish party) in Scotland and Northern Ireland are arguably a big part of why they didn't vote for Brexit, and you also saw something similar in Austria, where they elected a Green president rather than the far right ultra-nationalist.
You really shouldn't politicize works pages, even YMMV pages.
edited 23rd Dec '16 4:36:13 PM by CaptainCapsase
Basically comes back to what I said earlier: the democrats need everything to go right for them. I mean, the last two Democrats basically did.
Bill Clinton was a charismatic, gregarious, youthful candidate who got his entire party to rally around him up against an unenthused republican who was dealing with a bad economy, the fruits of raising taxes in this environment despite very famously promising not to do so (which Clinton and the democrats ruthlessly exploited in ad campaigns), a fractured republican coalition, and his main accomplishments in foreign policy taking a backseat to economic issues.
Obama was much the same, banking on being an extremely charismatic youthful politician who got people motivated to vote, against a Republican who supported the Iraq War and had everyone concerned that he'd croak during office, a VP pick perceived as an out-of-touch and inexperienced woman undercutting his main line of attack against Obama (experience), all of this in the middle of negative public opinion about the last Republican candidate, and again, bad economy.
For Trump the democrats will basically need another golden boy who rallies the whole party around him/her, the economy to be doing sufficiently bad, a few really bad and obvious fuckups on Trump's part, and Trump failing to meet enough of his promises that there's a collapse in his turnout. The voter suppression is probably the biggest problem going forward in that regard since I see all of the aforementioned conditions plausible or even likely to a certain degree.
edited 23rd Dec '16 4:43:54 PM by Draghinazzo
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I'll admit this is both wanton speculation and wishful thinking on my part, but in terms of who might prove to be an Obama 2.0 - I'm liking the look of Kamala Harris. She's comparatively young, she's not white, she's female, and she's unashamedly progressive - including speaking out openly against the Orange One and his agenda.
edited 23rd Dec '16 4:47:07 PM by RBluefish
"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."Looking at Harris I like her but being both a woman AND a Po C is going to be kind of an uphill battle. I mean, Obama managed to win in spite of being a black man which I think is a huge testament to how personable and inspiring he is (and if I'm being more cynical, how good he was at not offending white people's sensibilities and making them feel like they could trust him).
Seeing her beat Trump though(in a landslide, preferrably) ...I don't think I could accurately describe the catharsis I'd get from that. Like, can you imagine the salt from the Republicans at having another one-term president unseated by a NON-WHITE woman? I'd have enough schadenfreude to go around until the next election.
edited 23rd Dec '16 5:03:13 PM by Draghinazzo

Does Trump pushing the idea of a Russia-US alliance based on nuclear domination remind anyone of anything?
Trump delenda est