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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#163926: Dec 23rd 2016 at 6:35:47 AM

Well his businesses DID go bankrupt like what, 4 to 6 times? I forget the actual number.

StarOutlaw Since: Nov, 2010
#163927: Dec 23rd 2016 at 6:36:23 AM

[up][up][up]I can at least verify from some videos that, even if they aren't hate crimes, Trumpers are incredibly sore winners and act like assholes, so I'm much more inclined to believe there are more real hate crimes than fake.

edited 23rd Dec '16 6:36:39 AM by StarOutlaw

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#163928: Dec 23rd 2016 at 6:38:50 AM

[up][up][up][up]If it helps your decision making at all, alt-righters (including the worst of quislings like Milo Yiannopolis) pre-emptively declared that it would happen.

Almost like a set-up, if you will.

They knew it was coming up, and they struck first to haze the truth and make it difficult for those reporting hate crimes to make their story known.

edited 23rd Dec '16 6:39:11 AM by blkwhtrbbt

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#163929: Dec 23rd 2016 at 6:39:03 AM

6 times, not all Trump's personal doing

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Psyclone Since: Jan, 2001
#163930: Dec 23rd 2016 at 6:40:31 AM

@M84: During the Cold War there was a proposal to have the nuclear launch codes (or at least some component) surgically implanted behind an aide's heart, who would also carry around a knife, meaning that if the President wanted to launch a nuke, he would have to personally stab the aide to get to the codes thus meaning that the President would have to know what it's like to take a man's life before ending those of millions. Naturally it was shot down.

edited 23rd Dec '16 6:41:15 AM by Psyclone

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#163931: Dec 23rd 2016 at 6:40:56 AM

I should also probably clarify that there's a difference between a hate crime (I don't know the exact definition in the US but I imagine it probably involves violence) and harassment.

Most of the stories I've seen have been of racist harassment, which isn't exactly great either.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#163932: Dec 23rd 2016 at 6:42:38 AM

[up][up]Trump would probably just pick a person he hated. I doubt he'd do I himself anyway.

edited 23rd Dec '16 6:42:52 AM by Kostya

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#163933: Dec 23rd 2016 at 6:45:47 AM

[up]TRUMP: Pence, be a good boy and stab Billy in the chest would you?

PENCE: But—

TRUMP: Tell you what, you stab him in the chest and I'll pass whatever fucked up anti-gay laws you want. I mean, I'd pass 'em anyway, but it's the thought that counts.

PENCE: ...Ah, what the hell? {Stabs Billy in the chest.}

edited 23rd Dec '16 6:49:48 AM by kkhohoho

StarOutlaw Since: Nov, 2010
#163934: Dec 23rd 2016 at 6:49:15 AM

One hate crime I see popping up is women's hijabs being pulled off, which is harassment, and in a couple cases set on fire, which I would guess is an actual crime.

In any case, I always get the feeling that Trumpers or conservatives who say these hate crimes are faked would also be okay if they weren't fake. They never act like they're offended that someone would imply their side is full of crazy bigots, or say something like "How dare they accuse us of being racist." As much as they act like they have a moral high ground, they don't do anything in particular to prove it.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#163935: Dec 23rd 2016 at 6:56:06 AM

[up] They have no moral high ground. All they want to do is drag everyone else down to their level.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#163936: Dec 23rd 2016 at 7:08:05 AM

It's also not a new tactic, incidentally. Denial and obfuscation is how racism thrives, these people know exactly what they're doing. It's the same sort of thing that created the Lost Cause.

3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#163937: Dec 23rd 2016 at 7:26:19 AM

Wouldn't pulling down a hjab/etc be legally battery?

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pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Cape Malleum Majorem
#163938: Dec 23rd 2016 at 7:36:50 AM

[up]It depends on one's interpretation of the law. By some Muslim standards (I'm guessing) it might be analogous to pulling a woman's skirt up over her head.

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Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#163939: Dec 23rd 2016 at 8:47:25 AM

I don't know about the US, but in Ontario at least, Assault is the threat, Battery is the action. The instant a threat becomes a physical interaction, the assault flips to battery, but both are still prosecuted if it goes to court.

edited 23rd Dec '16 8:48:01 AM by Zendervai

NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#163940: Dec 23rd 2016 at 8:55:02 AM

So Teh Trump Team can't find any A-List celebrities that would want to perform at his inauguration

Meanwhile The Rockettes are basically forced to perform. Lest they get fired

Such symbolism for this inaguation and the next (and hopefully only) 4 years: Forcing a group of women to do something with their bodies against their will.

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#163941: Dec 23rd 2016 at 9:01:22 AM

They're not just denying. They're also saying "well we got subjected to hate crimes during the election so it's OK".

"Yup. That tasted purple."
Lanceleoghauni Cyborg Helmsman from Z or R Twice Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
#163942: Dec 23rd 2016 at 9:03:24 AM

ho ho HOOOOOLY shit.

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#163943: Dec 23rd 2016 at 9:13:07 AM

Pretty much. This state is a hellhole. And it's a perfect example of how the Republicans operate.

Everyone prepare for Trump and the GOP to either double down and try to keep in power in 2020 or for them to just plain torch the place on the way out.

Oh really when?
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#163944: Dec 23rd 2016 at 9:14:40 AM

Basically, if the GOP gets eight years, I don't see them transferring power back to the Dems.

It's all or nothing.

New Survey coming this weekend!
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#163945: Dec 23rd 2016 at 9:47:28 AM

In regards to a new nuclear arms race, Trump says "bring it on."

edited 23rd Dec '16 9:49:30 AM by CaptainCapsase

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#163946: Dec 23rd 2016 at 9:49:09 AM

Trump really needs someone to tell him that some decisions have consequences that no amount of money or political power in the world can shield him from.

This is what happens when an overgrown Spoiled Brat gets his tiny baby hands on some real power.

edited 23rd Dec '16 9:51:21 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#163947: Dec 23rd 2016 at 9:54:01 AM

[up] I think (and hope) Trump is bluffing. He's pretty infatuated with President Nixon, and seems particularly partial to his "madman theory". That's probably the best case scenario regarding Trump and nukes. Unfortunately, that for of deterrence is absolutely toxic to global stability, and is very unlikely to work against the non-state actors which are in his crosshairs right now, and INCREDIBLY risky when it comes into contact with someone else engaging in brinksmanship, namely Putin.

edited 23rd Dec '16 9:56:03 AM by CaptainCapsase

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#163948: Dec 23rd 2016 at 9:56:33 AM

You know, much has been said about how impulsive and unpredictable Trump is, but on one aspect he's remarkably consistent: he will never let anyone make him look "weak", and will respond with bigly bombast in kind, thumping his chest like a drooling orange gorilla. In a way this makes him rather easy to manipulate, since you can ensure a fuckup if you just taunt him enough.

I'm sure world leaders are already keenly aware of this and preparing accordingly.

edited 23rd Dec '16 9:57:25 AM by Draghinazzo

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#163950: Dec 23rd 2016 at 10:26:07 AM

Speaking as someone who lives within 20 miles of multiple important counterforce nuclear targets (and as a member of humanity as a whole, but especially that first bit), I would very much appreciate it if Trump stopped rattling that nuclear saber because I rather prefer my constituent particles where they are.

But hey, guys, it was Hillary who was going to start a nuclear war, right?

edited 23rd Dec '16 10:28:01 AM by Balmung


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