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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#163726: Dec 21st 2016 at 1:37:59 PM

[up][up]Time for one of the best songs I ever heard:

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#163727: Dec 21st 2016 at 2:12:59 PM

At least one metal band around here has opinions on Trump:

Anyway, I needed to ask, how much power do the different secretaries exercise over their particular fields? Is, say, the Secretary of State completely in control of the State Departments activities? Or just the head of the bureaucracy?

edited 21st Dec '16 2:16:26 PM by TerminusEst

Si Vis Pacem, Para Perkele
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#163729: Dec 21st 2016 at 3:04:46 PM

My dad is a brain-washed Republican loyalist but he thinks very little of politicians, thinks Trump would be better than Hillary and that most of Trump's promises are BS.

Honestly even though he's Hispanic, he doesn't really care about the welfare of his group or anyone else because he identifies as rich before Hispanic so he thinks that Hispanic problems are for poor Hispanic problems. He thinks money has bleached his skin.

So he goes with the party that'll give him more tax breaks.

On the upside though, he wouldn't have voted for Trump if the court could've proven that he had raped a 13 year old girl.

carbon-mantis Collector Of Fine Oddities from Trumpland Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
Collector Of Fine Oddities
#163730: Dec 21st 2016 at 4:23:45 PM

So HB 2 is staying in NC now after a special vote.

The state delayed the vote by a day on it, so Charlotte held their vote to repeal their nondiscrimination ordinance on schedule (they agreed to repeal it the day after HB 2 was put to a vote). After it was repealed the state voted to keep HB 2.

The republicans are claiming "Charlotte lied" because they kept provisions to maintain the city's stance on not hiring contractors confirmed to have carried out sexual/gender discrimination.

edited 21st Dec '16 4:26:26 PM by carbon-mantis

Ecrivan Amused Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Amused
#163731: Dec 21st 2016 at 4:41:38 PM

[up][up][up][up]That song was pretty good. Glad to see that Celldweller wasn't the only muscian that hated Trump

Formerly known as Bleddyn And I am feeling like a ghost Resident Perky Goth
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#163732: Dec 21st 2016 at 4:53:06 PM

So did Kerry King.

Given that Slayer was originally made by 2 American Atheists, a Chilean and a Cuban Latinos and the latest album had a an anti-racist message, it doesn't surprise me the least that Slayer and King don't like Trump.

Inter arma enim silent leges
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#163734: Dec 21st 2016 at 5:27:41 PM

So, drain the swamp eh?

Inter arma enim silent leges
RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#163735: Dec 21st 2016 at 5:31:30 PM

Sounds like voting Republicans - even Trumplings - aren't happy about the idea of defunding Planned Parenthood.

"The guy I voted for, I'd be disappointed if he signed it," said one middle-aged man in Milwaukee. "He's making sure the Congress is on his side, but he doesn't care about all us people who voted for him."

Did you just figure that out now, genius?

"I'm astounded," said one Trump supporter in Phoenix, upon hearing about Pence's anti-abortion record. "I guess I've been living in a bubble. He sounds like a tyrant."

Next time do us all a favor and learn a few fundamental facts about said tyrant before you vote him into office. You're a day late and a dollar short here.

No, I'm the slightest bit bitter, whyever do you ask.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#163736: Dec 21st 2016 at 5:43:56 PM

"I'm astounded," said one Trump supporter in Phoenix, upon hearing about Pence's anti-abortion record. "I guess I've been living in a bubble. He sounds like a tyrant."

Seeing them put it so plainly is rather jarring. It's not really that surprising in retrospect though because most people rarely do in-depth research about politicians and their proposals. My only hope is that it makes enough of a difference to collapse Trump's turnout in 2020.

AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#163737: Dec 21st 2016 at 5:47:03 PM

2017: I told you soTM, but you didn't listen.

edited 21st Dec '16 5:47:22 PM by AngelusNox

Inter arma enim silent leges
Ecrivan Amused Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Amused
#163738: Dec 21st 2016 at 5:48:17 PM

Oh now their astounded. Funny how it's all A-okay until politicians start taking everyone's rights instead of just minorities.

Formerly known as Bleddyn And I am feeling like a ghost Resident Perky Goth
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#163739: Dec 21st 2016 at 5:49:59 PM

With all this buyer's remorse the Dems should have their campaign 4 years from now be:

Dem Nominee Hindsight is 2020

Obviously stylized somehow lol

New Survey coming this weekend!
RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#163740: Dec 21st 2016 at 5:52:32 PM

TRUMP: I'm going to wipe my ass on the Constitution and trample all over everyone's civil rights!

TRUMPLINGS: Yaaaay!

TRUMP: Including yours!

TRUMPLINGS: wat

TRUMP: wat

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#163741: Dec 21st 2016 at 5:54:33 PM

[up] People who voted against Trump: <eye twitch>

edited 21st Dec '16 5:54:45 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#163742: Dec 21st 2016 at 5:55:35 PM

The impression I've gotten is that many of them either genuinely didn't think he was serious about a lot of the things he was saying (or thought they were exaggerations of things that were much less ridiculous although still reactionary), or didn't want to believe it.

The thing is even if he wasn't serious is that really a chance you want to take?

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#163743: Dec 21st 2016 at 5:58:01 PM

Oh, but according to one of Trump's advisors, he's supposed to be taken "symbolically". Not literally or seriously.

...WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?!

Disgusted, but not surprised
Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#163744: Dec 21st 2016 at 5:59:38 PM

Really, I feel like that's going to far. A lot of them probably just didn't much attention to the campaign in general- maybe they're vaguely aware of what the media's doing, but dismissed it because it sounded really exaggerated, which isn't unreasonable because it's objectively hard to talk about what's bad about Trump without sounding like you're really exaggerating it- and just voted R because that's what they always do.

RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#163745: Dec 21st 2016 at 5:59:51 PM

[up][up] There is literally no way to symbolically interpret Trump's words as being anything other than seriously terrifying.

edited 21st Dec '16 6:00:30 PM by RBluefish

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#163746: Dec 21st 2016 at 6:00:57 PM

[up][up] That's part of the problem - the Republican party has become so cartoonishly bad that it's REALLY hard to talk about what they're doing without sounding like you're a conspiracy theorist.

Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#163747: Dec 21st 2016 at 6:08:44 PM

[up][up]Mhm. I'd argue that he's even worse interpreted symbolically than he is literally, because a) some of really scary stuff is stuff he didn't come right out and say, like 'hey, you 2nd amendment crusaders, why don't you go out and teach Hillary a lesson? By which I'll later claim I mean organize a protest', and b) he contradicts himself so much that if you take him literally, you can focus on the less terrifying bits.

RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#163748: Dec 21st 2016 at 6:11:42 PM

Oh, no question. He's even more terrifying when he's taken as a symbol rather than an individual - because he's a symbol of bigotry, corruption, autocracy, and lies so stubborn and omnipresent they become thought of as truth.

Also, late reply, but - I forsee "Hindsight is 2020" getting a lot of play in four years time. Assuming we're not all radioactive dust by then.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#163749: Dec 21st 2016 at 6:17:17 PM

You know a year from now, I'm going to start production of those shirts saying "Don't blame me, I voted for Hillary!"

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#163750: Dec 21st 2016 at 6:24:51 PM

So, remember how the Fascist party of North Carolina said they'd repeal the bathroom law local governments stopped passing human rights ordinances?

They lied.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/21/politics/north-carolina-bathroom-bill-hb2/index.html

Does the Republican party do anything other than inflict ideologically driven suffering?

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.

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