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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Is there any evidence to suggest that this is a trend worth pursuing, rather than a few isolated incidents?
Because it seems to me that the actual cases by far outnumber any made-up ones.
edited 19th Dec '16 5:01:10 PM by KarkatTheDalek
Oh God! Natural light!So I was watching Drunk History and I came across this:
And I thought, you know what would be fucking legendary, the Citizen Kane of our era? Taking what Orson Welles did based on William Randolph Hearst, and doing the same from Rupert Murdoch. That would be such an epic.
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.I'm going to go out on a limb and say they're not pleased about it.
I mean, even putting aside his platform of white supremacy and kleptocracy, there's a very real danger of him giving the go-ahead to the Dakota Access Pipeline after all.
"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."It's a depressing fact that people of color are capable of being just as racist towards each other as white people are towards them. And it is absolutely the last thing we need right now, because when we're teetering on the precipice like we are, unity is critical.
Black, white, Asian, Latinx, First Nations, Arab, what have you - we all need to stand together right now against Trump and his legion of deplorables.
"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."More Democratic Electors abandoned Hillary than Republican Electors abandoned Trump. Just wow.
Expect Trumplings to bring that up until the end of time. I knew I shouldn't have gotten excited.
edited 19th Dec '16 5:48:01 PM by Demonic_Braeburn
Any group who acts like morons ironically will eventually find itself swamped by morons who think themselves to be in good company.![]()
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You can start by dropping any notion of a dichotomy between whites and all other ethnic groups in America. There's no intrinsic solidarity between for example Chinese Americans and African Americans any more than between white Americans and Peruvian Americans.
edited 19th Dec '16 5:48:05 PM by CaptainCapsase
Speaking of faithless electors, it seems as if there were a few. But they were mainly Democratic electors trying to prove a point.
Looks like a number of them cast protest votes for Colin Powell; ie. a sane Republican. Edit: ![]()
edited 19th Dec '16 5:49:11 PM by Pseudopartition
Apparently most of the lost Dem electoral votes were due to whatever that plan to deny Trump 270 electoral votes was?
Reuters Special Reports on other places in the US with lead problems like Flint
. Some are even worse.
We've gone over this a few times, but there are a couple of different Trump supporters whose motives often intertwine.
a) people primarily motivated by racism/sexism/"sticking it to political correctness". This might not be the largest group of Trump supporters but there's WAY too many of them anyways. It's not really an isolated irrelevant group.
b) people primarily motivated by economic reasons. They were desperate and foolishly bought into Trump's snake oil, unaware of the horrible effects his presidency would have on both them and everyone else.
c) people primarily motivated by anti-establishment sentiments. They want the corrupt political system to be purged, or a "shake-up".
d) people who are immensely wealthy and want policies to help them keep even more money and power.
As I said, these motives often intertwine. The "economic anxiety" of many trump voters has often been described as a perception that they've been abandoned and other people are getting put ahead in line unfairly (see:minorities), which is basically just racism.
The underlying point behind the whole "deplorables" thing is that, even the most inoffensive and decent Trump voters are still tacitly approving of Trump's horribleness by voting for him, likely based on a bunch of lies and they've been complicit in validating the bigotry of people who are much more virulently prejudiced than they are.
It's not about "winning" against Trump, just intellectual honesty about the situation. Obviously if you want to convince people/drum up enthusiasm you'll probably be having a different kind of conversation.
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Bingo.
I don't care who you are or what kind of person you are - a vote for Trump is a vote for bigotry.note
I love how people act like it was the "deplorables" comment that cost Hillary the election. If there was one word that cost her the race, it wasn't "deplorables." It was "e-mails."
edited 19th Dec '16 5:59:08 PM by RBluefish
"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."

For good reason, has there been any effort to sort out the potential liars among them? Have there been any arrests like there was of those thugs who beat a guy up in Chicago before stealing his car?