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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
The whole War on Christmas , gay/atheist/socialist indoctrination and uber liberal colleges needing safe spaces are nothing but the neocons and neoreactionaries taking small incidents and turning them up to eleven to push for their own narrative that the traditional white American Christian values are under threat.
Essentially they remove all the nuance from those incidents and push them as being a major issue and proof there is a war being waged on white males and conservative Christians, in order to create a siege mentality and encroach their beliefs in a public that if exposed long enough to those ideas will adopt the in one way or another. Since it is quite common to see someone complain about being a white male being criminalized or how Christians are being persecuted in the US for their beliefs, I can say it is working.
Now they are seeing how men harassing women under the guise of flirting is no longer acceptable, how saying racist/sexist/homophobic insensitive and offensive statements have consequences, how other people no longer have to put up with their religious beliefs being imposed on them and how minorities don't have to lower their heads and be submissive. The conservatives and reactionaries believe they are wrongfully losing their deserved space in the American society.
Of course this ends up translating in the Go P using those inadequacy feelings for their own gains, since it becomes easy to appeal to their insecurities, fears and bigotry by claiming the reason why they are losing jobs is that those minorities/immigrants are stealing those jobs from them and how the government can't spend on them because the latter are leeching off the system through welfare.
This is incredibly difficult to combat, the Republicans have been engaging this kind of propaganda warfare for years and they managed to convince a good size of the American electorate that progressive policies are anti-working class, anti-white and anti-American.
But the question is how exactly does the Democrat party can reverse this without becoming like the Republicans? The electoral college pretty much means the corn, rust and bible belts are steadily on the hands of the Republicans and they weight more than the blue states where the most of the cosmopolitan and liberal cities and populations are located at.
Even though Obama's policies helped the people in the Rust Belt, the recognition of those policies didn't. How do you reach them? This election showed how easily facts and statistics can be dismissed as biased or lies when they don't agree with their point of view.
Inter arma enim silent legesSo...the Russian ambassador in Turkey was just shot...
https://twitter.com/AP/status/810882145870815232
2016 still trying to fuck with us...
New Survey coming this weekend!@Sanders believing economic progress would cure all other social ills
That's called the Keystone Theory, and it was a very common tactic of Tumblr leftists back in the 2012 old-school "Social Justice Sally" days, often as a way to defend using bigotry via Misery Poker. Think "it's OK for me as a woman to say nasty things about trans people because women's issues are more important and trans people should stop fighting for trans issues because once sexism is solved transphobia and homophobia will also magically disappear too".
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That's not how bigotry works. You can have a misogynistic black man, a homophobic woman, and a gay racist, and all three are separate, independent bigotries that need to be fought against equally. A person isn't less of a bigot because their targets are gay people rather than women, for instance; numerically different, perhaps, but morally, ethically, and socially just as bad.
edited 19th Dec '16 11:09:20 AM by CrimsonZephyr
"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."I've seen Keystone theory used outright on here for gender issues, with people saying that Men's Issues would automatically be fixed if we just all focused on women's issues.
I'm a feminist but the logic jump required to think that male homelessness and suicide will be fixed as long as we focus on the 'real' (scare quotes for implication that such issues are more real, not for the true fact that they are serious) issues of women's issues...
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranA lot of that comes from this bizarre gender-expectations thing. A feminist campaign should be dealing with those Men's issues as well, since part of the campaign is to dismantle gender expectations.
inb4 reeks of No True Scotsman
Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
That's the theory. In practice people waste huge amounts of time and energy trying to prove that their chosen cause is more important than everyone else's. Incidentally, that's my main criticism of the modern social justice movement; in my opinion the current degree of fragmentation and microtargeting is undermining the effectiveness of the overarching agenda.
edited 19th Dec '16 12:07:53 PM by CaptainCapsase
Hell, even if the keystone theory was entirely true, it wouldn't excuse doing nothing for the people suffering right now.
I always try to be cautious in regard to this topic. One occasion I was discussing feminism in popular culture and I asserted my belief that the feminism in Mad Max: Fury Road was more effective than Ghostbusters 2016. Those I was discussing with were incredulous (to say the least) toward my opinion.
I was going to ask if anything new happened / came out over the past 24 hours / 10 pages in this thread, but... The EC voted already?!
EDIT: From Yahoo News
: "The Electoral College votes will be officially counted during a joint session of Congress on Jan. 6." So how long before the last elector puts his vote in?
edited 19th Dec '16 1:01:01 PM by MarqFJA
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.

Which really would have no place in politics. However, being told not to order coffee black is going too far.
Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you