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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Mmhmm. So Bernie Sanders is Danaerys Stormborn, who tried to rule Meereen without the help of the wealthy noble class. Well if he continues down the same story path, he'll eventually accept them as a necessity to keeping the peace.
Then, political correctness is not a problem, since it by nature excludes those things. Yes?
edited 19th Dec '16 9:05:07 AM by blkwhtrbbt
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Unfortunately it seems to be completely detached from the rest of your argument. It's like you were arguing in favor of mayonnaise in salads, and then announcing in favor of olive oil.
edited 19th Dec '16 9:05:29 AM by Krieger22
I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot"There are those who view that approach as a ceaseless pander to the minority. The LGBT demographics make up barely 5% of the population and consequently people can view it as politicians being enslaved to a vocal minority."
I kind of have a "wow, just wow" reaction to this (oddly enough I've seen a couple of Leftist commentators stating this exact talking point. Most importantly, the size of a demographic is not important in terms of whether or not their fundamental rights deserve protection.
I'd also say (especially because those Leftist commentators were prepared to go as high as 10%) that there's something really iffy about both insisting that the number is extremely low/dismissing statistics showing higher percentages in conjunction with arguing that it is a demographic not deserving of rights/protection.
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Not really. It was more like arguing that Muslims are a problem, then when faced with the argument that Radical terrorists are not true Muslims, agreed, then continued to argue that Muslims are a problem.
edited 19th Dec '16 9:06:18 AM by blkwhtrbbt
Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for youNo one's banning Christmas — there's no movement to do so, it has never been anything less than a right-wing scare piece, and the holiday itself is loved. As for saying "Happy Holidays" — why the hell not? Christmas this year is also the third day of Hanukkah, and the phrasing is completely harmless. The entire controversy is borne out of a delusional Fiftiesesque desire to see all of our social interaction default to the assume that we're all WASPs.
Also, it doesn't matter that LGBT are 5% of the population. Even if there was a small handful, their rights are still inviolable, and should be treated as such.
edited 19th Dec '16 9:11:26 AM by CrimsonZephyr
"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."A ban on saying "Merry Christmas" and so forth has never been promoted by the US government, or any state or local government, as far as I'm aware. That stance was taken up by various businesses (department stores, big-box retail franchises, etc.) and imposed on their employees.
This Space Intentionally Left Blank.I feel like people don't realize that five percent is still a ridiculously large amount of people. That's double the population of New York City. This isn't even touching the fact that I see numbers as high as ten percent sometimes which would put the number around thirty million.
A lot of colleges have also stopped putting up Christmas decorations. That seems to be a common complaint.
edited 19th Dec '16 9:16:32 AM by Kostya
Freedom of religion cuts both ways, folks. Freedom of religion is also freedom from religion. If I, president of a hypothetical private school, don't want to hang up decorations this year, and the board of directors agree, I ought to be free to not hang up Christmas decorations.
Which are mostly pagan in origin anyway.
Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for youI always thought "Happy Holidays" was just a thing Businesses did as a way to attract more Customers of all Religions (and lack-there-of) and Philosophies to buy stuff during the Holiday season to increase profits. You say "Merry Christmas" to someone who's clearly not Christian, and they'll be less likely to come back the next year during the Holidays. You say "Happy Holidays", then they won't be worried and/or intimidated in coming the next year and shopping at the same time of the next year. It'd also help them make profits for these Holidays, like Hannukah, Kwanza, sometimes Ramedan, and whatever other Holidays are during the Christmas time that I don't know.
"Happy Holidays", whatever the reason for it, is not just some stupid "Oh my god, they're trying to turn America into a liberal cesspool!" or anything stupid like that.
The "War on Christmas" schtick has been primarily the doing of the American Family Association
(a racist, sexist, antisemitic hate group in "Christian Ministry" guise) over the last decade or so. They get a prime seat on Fox every December and use it to raise funds (usually raking in millions, tax free) for themselves while goading their supporters into harassing or boycotting companies that they dislike.
edited 19th Dec '16 9:42:35 AM by carbon-mantis
I don't see what the big deal is, honestly. If some non-Christian is really that offended or intimidated by (largely secular) Christmas displays and verbal polite nothings, then I'd say they need to grow a thicker skin. Or maybe go into therapy.
This Space Intentionally Left Blank.Indeed, my greetings and farewells of "Merry Christmas" have often been my method of discerning the beliefs of those I am engaging with. This far I haven't been persecuted for it until recently, when I said Merry Christmas to someone they were fine with saying Happy Holidays/Hanukkah back. If they are offended by an innocent difference of terminology then their issues are not merely political in nature.
Yes, political correctness can go too far. I've been told to not order "black coffee" because black people could find it offensive. I highly doubt that, unless you describe it as being the color of a black person I guess.
However, it can be important as well. The Inuit people of northern Canada really don't like being called Eskimos and ask to be called Inuit. This is not unreasonable because the word Eskimo comes from a different native group, mostly focused in Alaska, and it is literally an insult. It would be like thinking Americans are actually called Leathcheanns. That's Irish for idiot. They don't think it's an insult, they think it's literally what your group is called. Now imagine people continually call you (an American) that to your face and refuse to change it even when you ask them.
That's what political correctness is supposed to be for. When people are using the wrong term, as defined by the group that it's referring to and that group requests that you refer to them in another way.
One issue with the "war on Christmas" people is that they clearly have no idea what persecution actually is. Persecution is saying "you deserve to die for your beliefs, and I will act to make that happen." Having people be mildly offended in a way that they'll probably forget about in a week? That's not persecution. Unless they're actually trying to suppress your beliefs, you are not being persecuted. Now, the Religious Right genuinely is persecuting people for their beliefs and who they are, but that's a different conversation for a different time.
edited 19th Dec '16 9:52:44 AM by Zendervai

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