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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Did they not know that California is blue as hell? That's some ginormous Willfull Ignorance there (and a pretty inexcusable from of it).
edited 18th Dec '16 11:40:31 AM by SciFiSlasher
"Somehow the hated have to walk a tightrope, while those who hate do not."A white supremacist website called The Daily Stormer has posted a call to “TAKE ACTION” against Jewish people in Whitefish, providing personal contact information and urging a “troll storm” against them. The story claims the “vicious, evil race” has harmed the Whitefish business of Richard Spencer’s mother. It quotes a story from the British newspaper Daily Mail that said Sherry Spencer “said she is being forced to sell a building she owns in the small town because residents are rebelling against her son.” The site posted phone numbers, email addresses, and Twitter handles for the Whitefish residents it alleges are harassing Sherry Spencer, along with a disclaimer that it opposes violence.
In the era of Trump, the warnings scum like Anglin are going to be emboldened?? Well, those turn out to be more and more true every day. These people now think they have support at the highest echelons of society.
Furthermore: Trump is doubling down on his lie from the campaign concerning the murder rate in this country.
Why is Trump continuing to tell egregious lies about such easily verifiable facts annd why is he being allowed to get away with this? Imagine if Hillary Clinton had made comparable statements at some point during the campaign. If she had, I have little down the mainstream press would've clucked their tongues about how insane she was on every Sunday show.
edited 18th Dec '16 1:08:56 PM by Lightysnake
@Silasw Reagan was indeed an admirer of Barry Goldwater, his endorsement speech of Barry Goldwater was perhaps Reagan's first step into politics as after that speech he was encouraged to stand for Governor of California. When Reagan assumed leadership of the modern American conservative movement that Goldwater founded, he not only put a friendly face on it but even intensified it to a degree. Near the end of his political career and life, Goldwater lamented that the movement he began classified him as a liberal in his own party.
As Septimus wrote, Goldwater was not a racist but he placed such a high premium on state rights that they would supersede individual rights. I consider myself a conservative Republican and a supporter of state rights but the concept of American federalism must be respected by all sides.
edited 18th Dec '16 2:01:16 PM by Tbone511
Can you elaborate as to what area of Democratic-Republicanism? Are you referring to Jeffersonianism? Jefferson and Madison founded that party principally in opposition to Hamilton's centralization policies in the Treasury.
I support decentralization as I believe there are many areas where the private sector and state governments are more capable and efficient than the federal government. However, I think there needs to be reasonable restriction in order to prevent abuse.
Huh...so I just learned something I didn't know. While I was correct in stating Hoover was from Iowa, not California (my boyfriend is a native Iowan so he made sure to tell me this
), he ended up moving to and becoming a legal resident of California later. Learn something new every day!
edited 21st Dec '16 11:50:39 PM by Ingonyama
I kind of feel like it should be my personal mission to defeat Stormfront.
I wonder who provides their webhosting, so we could boycott the shit out of them until they force Stormfront off somewhere else...
As i've pondered action these last few days, i really think the "no platform" movement is the place for me, the movement to suppress white nationalism to GUARANTEE that they cannot enjoy their first amendment right to free speech because private actors will suppress them any time they try to open their damned mouths. Same tactic rightists used to use against labor unions and feminists and such. Get out there with airhorns and bullhorns, with boycotts, lawsuits, naming and shaming and make sure they are never heard from again outside of the deep web.
edited 18th Dec '16 3:17:55 PM by Ogodei
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@ Daily Stormer
Figures they'd call for an internet Troll Storm, they for the most part are spineless and too meek to do anything outside their chairs and away from their computer screens.
Still, the DS under most anti-bigotry laws and anti-discrimination laws wouldn't be allowed to publish anything. The guys on their front page are calling Microsoft and IBM traitors for not supporting Trump's Muslim database.
Inter arma enim silent legesI'm curious to what magazines/websites you guys are subscribed too/read every day.
For me in the morning its:
- New York Times
- Washington Post
- Wall Street Journal
- Economist
- Vox
- Guardian
- Huffington Post (Stay away from Opinion pages)
- Forbes (Also stay FAR away from contributors)
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Uh... none of them? {Retreats into the corner.}
Honestly, I get most of my news from this little thread right here. I actually didn't know about most of those sites you mentioned until I started getting linked to them in this thread, and it still tends to be such a reliable and informative source of information that I don't see the need to go to most of those sites on my own. Which is why I get a bit worried whenever a mod comes in and threatens to shut this place down, because this is basically my main source of news. What can I say? It's just so damn convenient.
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Those are mostly the ones I read, yes, along with BBC.
There was an infograph posted some pages back about which news sites are reputable and what political direction they lean towards, and those are basically within the "reputable" to "great sources" margin, except for Huff Po which was marked as "questionable journalistic value".
This sort of reminds me of an article I read by NPR. It posited that we don't necessarily live in a post-facts era, so much as a post-trust era.
There are good news sources that try to report things with minimal partisanship, but it's hard to know what's true and what isn't these days. You're likely going to be influenced by your enviroment and the people around you more than anything else.
It doesn't really help that the Republican party in particular has been very adamant about denying certain scientific facts like climate change and evolution, neither of which has any business being part of the left-right spectrum of politics since both have been accepted as scientific fact for decades now (more than a century for evolution at this point). Perhaps the Democrats and other parties have also not helped in that regard, but if they have contributed in any significant fashion I'm not entirely sure what it is.
edited 18th Dec '16 7:05:55 PM by Draghinazzo
I'm subscribed to Wall Street Journal, Breitbart, and Newsmax.
Runs for cover
edited 18th Dec '16 7:09:06 PM by Tbone511
I mostly hang around The Guardian, but the Internet leads me everywhere, really.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."For me, my news sources are a mix of this thread and Reuters, AP, and NPR apps on my phone. I also keep my local newspaper, the Idaho Statesman, on it in case something of interest pops up there.
Finding relatively neutral sources is important to me. Way back when I even had a thread around this forum asking about where folks got their news.

Goldwater was not a bigot, but his philosophy (strong state's rights, for example) was a huge boon to actual bigots.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman