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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#162976: Dec 16th 2016 at 6:44:07 PM

Worst part is trying to explain all of this to someone else because it's (somewhat understandably) hard to believe that any party could be this much of an embarrassment.

I mean, at least people like Mitt Romney and Evan Mc Mullin much as I disagree with them on social issues still accept stuff like climate change and evolution, and offer SOME amount of empathy towards marginalized groups like the black community and muslims. It may just be lip service but the thing is the GOP as a whole doesn't even do that.

Mc Mullin even went so far as to bluntly state that Trump was fanning the flames of white nationalism, something which puts him a league above the mainstream GOP morally because most of them probably refuse to admit such a thing even exists.

edited 16th Dec '16 6:46:03 PM by Draghinazzo

RabidTanker God-Mayor of Sim-Kind Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
God-Mayor of Sim-Kind
#162977: Dec 16th 2016 at 6:44:33 PM

Well, I wouldn't call Trump an facist president...yet. Since the votes are still being counted.

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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#162978: Dec 16th 2016 at 6:47:15 PM

The votes are as good as counted. Hillary lost with a lead approaching three million votes.

It's been fun.
RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#162979: Dec 16th 2016 at 6:47:32 PM

[up][up][up] McMullin has even been demonstrating some semblance of integrity by viciously calling out Trump for Russia's role in hacking the election.

edited 16th Dec '16 6:47:59 PM by RBluefish

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#162980: Dec 16th 2016 at 6:48:07 PM

[up][up][up] Well, the Electoral College votes on Monday, so that's the last real chance of stopping him from assuming office (which is unlikely to happen).

Regardless, he has the votes he needs.

edited 16th Dec '16 6:48:59 PM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#162981: Dec 16th 2016 at 6:48:59 PM

As far as the "president" part goes it's highly unlikely that he won't be voted on and sworn in. As far as the "fascist" part?

It's well established at this point that Trump's behavior is entirely consistent with autocrats worldwide, he's fomenting a cult of personality based on white nationalism, he's said that people who burn flags should be punished, stated a desire to jail his political opponent, etc.

Of course how many of the things he's talked about he'll follow up on is questionable but the thing is a lot of the supporters who are disappointed with him so far, are mostly disappointed because he isn't enough of an autocrat (i.e him backing down on jailing Clinton).

edited 16th Dec '16 6:50:07 PM by Draghinazzo

RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#162982: Dec 16th 2016 at 6:49:15 PM

Re: an electoral revolt. There's pretty much a 0% chance of that happening. Trump's going to be POTUS. Real life is unfortunately not as given to dramatic eleventh-hour turnarounds as we would all like it to be.

edited 16th Dec '16 6:49:56 PM by RBluefish

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#162983: Dec 16th 2016 at 6:50:05 PM

edited 16th Dec '16 6:50:47 PM by Gilphon

RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#162984: Dec 16th 2016 at 6:51:24 PM

Fact is, there are probably just as many deplorables among the electors as there are among the everyday populace. And they're completely immune to reason and rationality, because they can just go "BUT HER EMAILS" and run away.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#162985: Dec 16th 2016 at 6:52:57 PM

I'm seriously starting to think that the GOP really does want to Kill the Poor. And the worst thing is, they've conned the middle class into helping them do it. The middle class whom they will screw over even harder once the poor are out of the picture.

edited 16th Dec '16 6:53:57 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Cape Malleum Majorem
#162986: Dec 16th 2016 at 6:54:43 PM

There used to be a joke: The difference between Democrats and Republicans is that Republicans think Democrats are wrong, and Democrats think Republicans are evil.

Nowadays, it's changed. Republicans think Democrats are evil, and Democrats know that Republicans are evil.

The dogwhistles are gone, dispensed with, no more pretense of making nice. Following Trump's example, Republicans now feel justified in openly expressing all the racism, sexism, and every other -ism that they used to have to keep secret. Not to mention their whole "Fuck the Poor!" attitude about the economy...

edited 16th Dec '16 7:01:53 PM by pwiegle

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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#162987: Dec 16th 2016 at 7:00:55 PM

The Republicans essentially work by appealing to the "unfalsifiable". They always blame the people who are suffering for their conditions even if it actually wasn't their fault, because they can always say that you should have worked harder, done more, "pulled yourself up by your bootstraps", etc. It's not dissimilar from a fundamentalist who insists that you couldn't hear God because you didn't pray hard enough, even though they don't know anything about you or what you go through.

The middle class goes along with it because they want to believe it's true, and don't want to accept that most of them will never be rich or successful no matter how hard they try.

edited 16th Dec '16 7:03:26 PM by Draghinazzo

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#162989: Dec 16th 2016 at 7:04:47 PM

[up][up] Which makes their complaints that the government isn't doing enough to help the (white) working class all the more hypocritical. That's some powerful cognitive dissonance.

Disgusted, but not surprised
DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#162990: Dec 16th 2016 at 7:34:13 PM

@ NC Republican Legislature Power Grab: Yeah, that is absolutely terrible, and I feel sorry for the Incoming Governor, and the people of North Carolina. However, I think in the long run, this will be good for the state. Remember, NC was a state that voted for Obama twice, and voted in a Democrat Governor because of the last Governor's Power Grab. The Democrats also gained seats in the lower House, although are still the Minority there. By 2018, I can imagine both Houses becoming Democrat, which would also allow them to redistrict NC in 2020 to be a Solidly Blue State for 10 years. (And yes, I checked, both Houses hold Elections every 2 years.)

edited 16th Dec '16 7:34:33 PM by DingoWalley1

TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#162991: Dec 16th 2016 at 7:38:20 PM

[up] Or the GOP continue to rig the game in their favor and never lose again.

"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
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#162992: Dec 16th 2016 at 7:40:51 PM

[up] The only way that could happen is if they make it impossible for anyone, including White people, from voting, and that'd be illegal.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#162993: Dec 16th 2016 at 7:54:14 PM

They're already doing their best to do that honestly. They're still trying to push through voter suppression laws even though the last ones got struck down.

Oh really when?
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#162994: Dec 16th 2016 at 7:58:21 PM

In my wildest dreams this completely backfires on them and the NC state legislature gets taken over by the Dems in the next session in the 2017 elections...

New Survey coming this weekend!
RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#162996: Dec 16th 2016 at 8:16:43 PM

Keith Ellison is wading into the North Carolina fray.

Good. We need all hands on deck for this one. Even if it doesn't get those bullshit laws struck down, anything to create more bad PR for the GOP.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#162997: Dec 16th 2016 at 8:21:43 PM

[up][up][up] and [up][up]: In my wildest dreams, I gain godlike psychic powers and promptly use them to re-enact that scene from Scanners (you know the one).

In some of my other wildest dreams, I conquer the earth with a robot army, while cosplaying as and completely taking on the persona of Dr. Eggman.

And in some of my other other wildest dreams, I'm forcibly merged with a military computer to become a crude, nuke-controlling AI, and then proceed to show exactly why that's a bad idea, taking inspiration from Skynet, the machines from The Matrix, and AM.

Clearly, I am not well.

edited 16th Dec '16 8:22:12 PM by TrashJack

"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Cape Malleum Majorem
#162998: Dec 16th 2016 at 8:35:02 PM

[up] , [up][up][up] Thank you for sharing guys, but I really don't think we needed to know any of that...

Anywho, back on topic?

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#162999: Dec 16th 2016 at 8:43:17 PM

Can the North Carolina Republicans' stunt be taken to the courts at all?

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#163000: Dec 16th 2016 at 8:46:35 PM

[up] I don't think what they did is illegal...It just severely violates democratic norms.

edited 16th Dec '16 8:46:42 PM by CaptainCapsase


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