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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#162751: Dec 16th 2016 at 11:05:11 AM

10 minutes to Obama's press conference that probably won't come to anything.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#162752: Dec 16th 2016 at 11:05:49 AM

The very most I could see happening is him ordering a security briefing for electors on the involvement of Russia in the election.

edited 16th Dec '16 11:06:13 AM by CaptainCapsase

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#162753: Dec 16th 2016 at 11:07:27 AM

As unlikely as it is if Obama is going to do anything drastic I really hope that it's force Trump out as an aide of the enemy, and instating Mike Pence in place of him. He's also a Republican who's opposed to Obama so they can't exactly say Obama is trying to enact a coup to hold onto power, and the means by which Pence got the office may taint him enough that his worst shit can't get passed through.

edited 16th Dec '16 11:08:37 AM by AlleyOop

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#162754: Dec 16th 2016 at 11:10:20 AM

[up] I'm not sure Pence would go along with it though; the only way Obama can legally do that* is to encourage the electoral college to revolt, and that scenario likely sees the decision tossed to the House, which may, in order to curry favor with Trump and with the Republican base, elect him anyway.

* Barring some evidence of something major involving Trump and Russia that would be grounds for his arrest, which I find rather implausible compared to the simpler explanation of Trump and Putin simply having converging interests in this election.

edited 16th Dec '16 11:11:42 AM by CaptainCapsase

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#162755: Dec 16th 2016 at 11:12:25 AM

Looks like the GOP is splitting over Trump's Russia policies.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/16/politics/republican-party-tension/index.html

I'm in no mood to be hopeful, but having that party of savages implode would be nice.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#162756: Dec 16th 2016 at 11:15:34 AM

Two-minute warning on the press conference and courtesy re-post of the live stream link for those that want it.

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#162757: Dec 16th 2016 at 11:17:05 AM

Party over country.

Is the idea of "winning" so deep in the human psyche that there are people willing to throw away previously held beliefs at any cost?

Because it seems to me like they want to "win" so badly, they're willing to commit treason to do so.

What did the Dems do to them that they would sell out their entire country, WILLINGLY?!

New Survey coming this weekend!
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#162758: Dec 16th 2016 at 11:18:32 AM

They let those filthy brown people have the right to call themselves peers and be treated as such.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#162759: Dec 16th 2016 at 11:19:08 AM

[up][up] One person's treason is another's "internationalism", and if there's one thing that's quite odd about Trumpism compared to previous nationalist movements, it's that it's surprisingly international.

Putin is in some respects an Ur-Example of the kind of nationalistic strongman that the Trump movement idolizes, thus it should come as no surprise that they see him as an ally, and welcome Russia's assistance, despite Russia being fairly indifferent to their ideology beyond its usefulness in furthering Russian geopolitical goals.

edited 16th Dec '16 11:23:18 AM by CaptainCapsase

Yinyang107 from the True North (Decatroper) Relationship Status: Tongue-tied
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#162761: Dec 16th 2016 at 11:22:57 AM

It's 7 minutes late by my online-synched clock's reckoning. But at least I managed to take an urgent bathroom break, so it's all good.

edited 16th Dec '16 11:23:32 AM by MarqFJA

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#162763: Dec 16th 2016 at 11:24:12 AM

Likewise (i've switched my attention to NPR, they're filling time by talking about Aleppo.)

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#162764: Dec 16th 2016 at 11:24:16 AM

You fight fascism by getting mad and staying mad. The new generation of fascism harbors a few psychoes who could do some actual damage, but most of them are spineless image-board trash who would wilt in the face of real opposition. You show them that we are determined to drum them out of public life, turn them out of society, and keep pressing until their lives are nothing but a shell of endless, futile misery.

Fascism didn't end well for the Fascists (aside from that prick Franco, but he was pretty savvy after the horrors of the Spanish Civil War). We must meet them with opprobrium more ferocious than the fire bombing of Dresden.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#162765: Dec 16th 2016 at 11:26:54 AM

[up] In many cases it didn't end well for the people either. Stalinism is an "improvement" over fascism in the sense that it's much less of a threat to global stability by virtue of being a fairly rational actor in international affairs compared to the downright delusional strategic choices made by fascist regimes, but that's a small comfort to those living under such a regime.

DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#162766: Dec 16th 2016 at 11:27:00 AM

[up][up]

We must meet them with opprobrium more ferocious than the fire bombing of Dresden.
I'm sorry, what?

edited 16th Dec '16 11:27:07 AM by DrunkenNordmann

We learn from history that we do not learn from history
blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#162767: Dec 16th 2016 at 11:28:15 AM

The Dresden Files?

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#162768: Dec 16th 2016 at 11:29:18 AM

Dresden is a city in Germany. It's a WWII reference.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Cape Malleum Majorem
#162770: Dec 16th 2016 at 11:30:42 AM

15 minutes late, and still nothing...

This Space Intentionally Left Blank.
blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#162771: Dec 16th 2016 at 11:33:01 AM

At this point, students can leave the audience hall and the professor can't mark him down.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#162773: Dec 16th 2016 at 11:33:42 AM

My internet just died for a few seconds. Good thing I didn't miss anything, since it hasn't started yet.

Yinyang107 from the True North (Decatroper) Relationship Status: Tongue-tied
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#162775: Dec 16th 2016 at 11:35:12 AM

The NPR corespondent just mentioned that being late to start press conferences is par for the course for Obama. :P


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