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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
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#162226: Dec 14th 2016 at 1:49:22 AM

If they all flip, we'd still need 16-17 more to flip.

AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#162227: Dec 14th 2016 at 4:27:22 AM

I think you should find a source that isn't directly quoting The Sun.

[down]I mean the whole Iran threatens nuclear war thing.

edited 14th Dec '16 6:36:51 AM by AngelusNox

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IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#162228: Dec 14th 2016 at 4:31:14 AM

[up]how about the Independant? (it also has him saying it on video).

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#162229: Dec 14th 2016 at 4:50:45 AM

If there is a solid block of Dissenters, others that are now to shy might come out. But lets wait and see.

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Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#162230: Dec 14th 2016 at 4:58:22 AM

Well, here's hoping for normalcy. I mean, even if successful (hah!), it would probably still end up being a Republican president, which is also all kinds of bad, but Dumping the Trump would still make it a net positive.

edited 14th Dec '16 4:58:50 AM by Kayeka

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#162231: Dec 14th 2016 at 5:10:35 AM

Indeed! There's George Bush and Ronald Reagan levels of international threat, like Mr. Pence, and then there's Trump.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#162232: Dec 14th 2016 at 5:11:44 AM

[up] You know things are bad when Keith Olbermann — one of Dubya's more outspoken critics — claimed on The Closer that he'd gladly welcome a third term under Dubya over Trump.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#162233: Dec 14th 2016 at 5:28:46 AM

Audio interview with a 23 year veteran of the CIA on Trump and his ties with the US intelligence so far. Not really a spoiler: it's bad. How bad has to be heard to be believed.

Twitter thread on the highlights of the interview.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#162234: Dec 14th 2016 at 6:00:49 AM

[up]Ouch, this really isn't looking good. Should I be dropping out of grad school and preparing for guerilla warfare? In brief: http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/editorial-cartoon/2016-12-14-editorial-cartoon

edited 14th Dec '16 6:01:10 AM by Rationalinsanity

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Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
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#162235: Dec 14th 2016 at 6:10:48 AM

I've learned in the last month that the 25th amendment includes a provision where the President can be removed by a statement of no confidence (a bit more complicated than that, but this is the boiled-down version) by a simple majority of the cabinet, which is why Trump seems so desperate to stack it with cronies (moreso than other Presidents), he needs over half of them to be people who will never declare his unfitness to serve the office.

I'd guess that provision was a response to the period right after Nixon's indictment became inevitable, when close White House advisers were quite terrified that Nixon would do something world-endingly erratic based on his mood at the time.

HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#162236: Dec 14th 2016 at 6:26:52 AM

[up][up] You might need foreign volunteers for that.

Getting back on-topic, other than Romney, any other Moderate Republicans that Trump might approach next?

Proglottid Since: Mar, 2010
#162237: Dec 14th 2016 at 7:06:28 AM

http://news.groopspeak.com/breaking-trump-issues-threat-to-electoral-college-members-who-dont-vote-for-him/

Trump now threatening EC members who may vote against him

edited 14th Dec '16 7:09:25 AM by Proglottid

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#162238: Dec 14th 2016 at 7:09:36 AM

[up] Yet another reason the EC should go. It's harder to threaten millions of voters.

Disgusted, but not surprised
speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#162239: Dec 14th 2016 at 7:31:30 AM

Re: Threatening EC: This is yet another in a long list of examples of why Trump pales in comparison to Clinton. You wouldn't see her pulling this crap.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#162240: Dec 14th 2016 at 8:10:42 AM

[up] At the very least, if she did it, people would be in uproar. But it seems like once again, Trump gets a pass for atrocious behavior.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Proglottid Since: Mar, 2010
#162241: Dec 14th 2016 at 8:16:40 AM

[up] Even the people that were against him in his own side started worshipping him once he handed them the country in gold platter. There's no getting rid of him, they can't and won't let him go

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#162242: Dec 14th 2016 at 8:19:39 AM

That's because they know that they're riding on his coattails. All their establishment candidates that they would have preferred over Trump got soundly defeated by him. You could argue that this was for various reasons but in practice it means that their electorate chose Trumpism over the usual GOP platform.

Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#162243: Dec 14th 2016 at 8:31:32 AM

So I just took a look at a youtube comments section, and apparently, people actually believe that Clinton only got the popular vote because California allows illegal immigrants to vote somehow.

I can't help but feel some satisfaction at the fact that they will be getting exactly the kind of leadership they've voted for. Mother of God, just what are they drinking?

edited 14th Dec '16 8:31:49 AM by Kayeka

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Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
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#162245: Dec 14th 2016 at 8:34:13 AM

[up][up]Don't expect them to realise it in a great big hurry. An inheritance is remarkably good at cushioning the blow.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#162246: Dec 14th 2016 at 8:41:00 AM

[up][up][up]As someone who voted for HRC in California, that shared delusion of theirs really annoys me.

Geez, by that logic, I could claim that Trump only won because he had cronies in swing states suppress votes, to the point of breaking voting machines in Democratic areas. Oh, wait...

edited 14th Dec '16 8:42:34 AM by M84

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CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#162247: Dec 14th 2016 at 8:48:11 AM

[up][up][up][up]At this point, nothing a Democrat says in their own defense or in defense of a fellow Democrat really matters anymore.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#162249: Dec 14th 2016 at 9:04:41 AM

[up]He'll just do what two-bit dictators everywhere do for their repressive IT needs: outsource to China.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#162250: Dec 14th 2016 at 9:16:11 AM

You joke, but the idea of outsourcing a government database that keeps a list as as controversial as that to a foreign country is a terrible TERRIBLE idea.

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