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DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#162126: Dec 13th 2016 at 1:25:47 PM

Bill Gate's new Company, Breakthrough Energy Ventures, plans to make Clean Energy a "Good Deal" to Trump. Bill's plan might work, but considering his Secretary of State's affiliation with Oil (being an Exxon-Mobile CEO), it might also fail.

Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#162127: Dec 13th 2016 at 1:26:46 PM

I mean, the thing about that Podesta thing is that somebody was always going to make some kind of mistake like that somewhere.

edited 13th Dec '16 1:27:20 PM by Gilphon

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#162128: Dec 13th 2016 at 1:29:38 PM

Evil Only Has to Win Once.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#162129: Dec 13th 2016 at 1:41:33 PM

Good of Bill Gates to try anyway. That's probably what i would've done in his situation.

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#162130: Dec 13th 2016 at 1:44:48 PM

Reading the whole article, there was a vast tragicomedy of errors that could have stopped the DNC hacking sooner; they were notified by the FBI months earlier but it took nearly two to confirm that the guy calling them from the FBI was legit and not a prankster (and for the FBI to figure out they needed to send someone in person and explain better what the heck was going on). There's also the fact that Obama was under pressure to name and shame the Russians much earlier than he eventually did (they were creating merry havock in other government systems) and chose not to for fear of sparking an all out cyberwar; the lack of consequences likely emboldened the Kremlin.

In other crap to worry about: The Trump campaign is threatening potential renegade electors with their careers

FluffyMcChicken My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare from where the floating lights gleam Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: In another castle
My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare
#162131: Dec 13th 2016 at 1:48:57 PM

[up] Sounds eerily similar to 9/11.

Moar centralization of intelligence zervices?

Oklahoma abortion restrictions blocked

CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#162132: Dec 13th 2016 at 1:49:05 PM

Maybe the Democrats need to start employing ciphers in their everyday emails, use incomprehensible Spy Speak, and dead drops. Like, John Podesta sends his risotto recipe, but every letter is replaced by a letter that is y=sqrt(4.5)x + 37, rounded to the nearest whole number, positions ahead of that letter in the alphabet, where "x" is the position of that letter in the alphabet, and every mention of risotto is replaced by the entire script to the film Cannibal Holocaust.

edited 13th Dec '16 1:49:54 PM by CrimsonZephyr

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#162133: Dec 13th 2016 at 1:53:45 PM

[up][up][up]Kind of a weird threat. Because a) if they vote against him, it may cost him his ability to enact it, and b) I don't think anyone thought that either party was inclined to be welcoming towards faithless electors- they're doing it while fully acknowledging it means breaking with their party.

Or, possibly, he's trying to imply something really fucking sinister.

edited 13th Dec '16 1:54:17 PM by Gilphon

FluffyMcChicken My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare from where the floating lights gleam Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: In another castle
My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare
#162134: Dec 13th 2016 at 1:54:42 PM

Republicans: See? SEE? Them Dems are cannibals!

'Pizzagate' Suspect Faces Federal Charge

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#162135: Dec 13th 2016 at 1:56:21 PM

[up][up][up] If they did that, then everyone would be like "Oh my god! The Dems have these encrypted messages normal people can't read! They must be doing all sorts of illegal stuff if they have to do all their messages this way!"

Considering how the media is, you know this to be true.

[up][up] Not going to lie, I got Hugo Chavez-esque vibes from reading that. Maybe I'm (hopefully) misinterpreting that.

edited 13th Dec '16 1:57:23 PM by DingoWalley1

JulianLapostat Since: Feb, 2014
#162136: Dec 13th 2016 at 1:56:46 PM

Taking a stand against Russia was tricky...and that's because of the whole Cold War discourse.

I mean the fear of Russian interference was so ridiculously exaggerated in the 40s and 50s by Mccarthy and co, that anyone making those accusations was placing himself in bad company.

It would also embolden hawks on all sides and it would certainly affect the elections badly.

And there's the unreality...I mean it's like a bad spy fiction right. Russians hacking us....please. Of course the arrival of Trump should have heralded that America is not tragedy but farce...not worthy of the Great American Novel but the Great MAD Magazine Parody.

I mean the Sony Hacks a few years ago was bizarre and unreal as well and nobody knows who did it but everyone accused North Korea of doing it.

CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#162137: Dec 13th 2016 at 1:56:55 PM

The Democratic Party needs to establish hidden colonies where candidates are raised from birth to run in elections, and live a life completely free from scandal. A look into their background will reveal only an immaculate record of academic achievement, public service, and a picture-perfect home life. We could call them Stepford Statesmen.

edited 13th Dec '16 1:59:01 PM by CrimsonZephyr

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#162138: Dec 13th 2016 at 2:02:04 PM

It's easy to denounce North Korea of course, they're an obvious enemy. Russia is a rival with whom we still conduct joint operations nonetheless.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#162139: Dec 13th 2016 at 2:03:13 PM

Meh, we've been enemies with the Russians for almost a decade now. We just don't wanna officially call it yet so we can all pretend there's still some world stability.

Oh really when?
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#162140: Dec 13th 2016 at 2:20:28 PM

[up]Except with the way things are going, it's looking like Russia isn't going to be our enemy for much longer. Lucky for us, we've got China to fill the void.tongue

edited 13th Dec '16 2:24:56 PM by kkhohoho

Yinyang107 from the True North (Decatroper) Relationship Status: Tongue-tied
#162141: Dec 13th 2016 at 2:22:42 PM

I want to see a political comic with Putin (or other boogeyman of choice) putting the Cold War in a microwave.

Geostomp In the name of the POWER, I will punish you! from Arkansas, USA Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
In the name of the POWER, I will punish you!
#162142: Dec 13th 2016 at 2:24:45 PM

So Trump continues his open war on the environment with his Secretary of the Interior pick. At this point, I really think he's just trying to see how far he can really go and it's not like the Republicans have any will to stop him.

"When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all" Futurama, Godfellas
Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#162143: Dec 13th 2016 at 2:27:28 PM

The thing with China though is that China doesn't want a Cold War, but the Chinese government can't afford to look weak in the face of Trump's ineffectual bullying, so they won't back down. And if Trump constantly antagonizes China to the point that China actually does something...well, the US isn't going to look good in the long run. Especially since while China is not ruled by nice people, the Chinese government values stability over almost everything else in their foreign policy. It's a lot easier to work with someone who wants the status quo to continue over someone who will do insane things in an effort to upend it.

edited 13th Dec '16 2:29:41 PM by Zendervai

RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#162145: Dec 13th 2016 at 3:05:51 PM

A thread from a former Clinton spokesperson, detailing a partial list of Trump's Russian connections.

Yet still no one in power seems to care.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#162146: Dec 13th 2016 at 3:09:53 PM

Because they think they have more to gain from Trump than lose. With him in the seat, they think they can do whatever they want domestically and that outweighs concerns about Russia for everyone except Mc Cain and that other guy.

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#162147: Dec 13th 2016 at 3:28:10 PM

I think the Democrats are potentially afraid that they're in a lose-lose situation.

If they try to do something more extreme to prevent the cavalcade of shit that is going to begin once Trump takes over, they risk looking authoritarian and trying to gain power after a crippling loss, thusly validating all the bullshit the extreme right has been trying to smear them with for years.

If they do what they're doing now and giving a transfer of power, it may pay off when the population sees that Trump will be Dubya at best, giving them space to win in the future, but with Russian interference and voter suppression going on it is also foolish to treat their return back to power as an inevitability either.

At best the former will delay the inevitable for a short while and the country will still go down the same path it's heading into with Trump in power, except perhaps even worse and harder to reverse.

As for the Republicans not doing anything...well, I don't think I have much to say about that which hasn't already been said. I understand realpolitik is a thing but even with that consideration, this is pretty damn low for them.

edited 13th Dec '16 3:36:35 PM by Draghinazzo

Geostomp In the name of the POWER, I will punish you! from Arkansas, USA Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
In the name of the POWER, I will punish you!
#162148: Dec 13th 2016 at 3:39:55 PM

At this point, there is no excuse for inaction. The Republicans have repeatedly proven unwilling to even pretend to follow the rules and are only growing more bold in their extremism. President Obama may respect the office to much do to what must be done, but the Republicans and his replacement-to-be certainly don't.

"When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all" Futurama, Godfellas
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#162149: Dec 13th 2016 at 4:05:46 PM

I do know one thing. I feel sorry for the Democrat who takes over after this mountain of shit.

If they thought Obama had a mess to clean up, they're going to be neck deep in it when Trump's run is over

New Survey coming this weekend!
Yinyang107 from the True North (Decatroper) Relationship Status: Tongue-tied
#162150: Dec 13th 2016 at 4:17:11 PM

What's been the longest run of consecutive presidents from a single party?


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