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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Your numbers in the post that led to me writing that were a percentage point lower, which gave me the impression that you had older statistics.
However, the more important point was the omission of college education below the level of a completed four-year degree, which has the effect of puffing up your own eliteness and creating false implications through omission.
edited 12th Dec '16 2:46:44 AM by Balmung
When those very views were those held by genocidal sociopaths who led Europe to ruin and prematurely ended millions of lives? Does that not count as a loss to you? Do you understand exactly what it is that you are trying to justify, to normalise?
I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiotAlso, those views are one thing when they're fringe nutbars with no real influence, and another entirely when they are held, endorsed, or otherwise encouraged passively or actively by major leading figures. Also, said leading figures (including the president elect, his close family, and his chief strategist) have no more interest in protecting free speech than you accuse Krieger of having.
Their right to say it hasn't changed, but the impact of them saying it has. Before, they were basically just loud assholes that society could largely ignore, now they're in a position to make their hate the new normal. And you can already see their success, both here and in the UK as hate crimes become more common and more severe.
edited 12th Dec '16 2:58:45 AM by Balmung
Krieger,
If you are less persuasive than people shouting kyke, you need to suck less.
Also, if you think heterodox academy is advocating fascism, you are misinformed about the nature of fascism, misinformed about heterodox academy or a coward.
Great men are almost never good men, they say. One wonders what philosopher of the good would value the impotence of his disciples.People are already more persuasive than that. There is a reason why it's always Campus Republicans complaining about speakers they wish to hire getting de facto banned from campus.
I did not at any point suggest that Heterodox Academy advocates fascism. However, what Heterodox Academy does do is tacitly perpetuate the conservative myth that colleges are where the vulnerable youth are led away from the worship of Reagan and towards the False Idol of the Welfare Queen.
I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiotI just hope that when (not if) the economy tanks, millions die due to loss of health care, hate crimes explode, and/or war breaks out in the next four years, that the Democratic Party is absolutely relentless in making sure that people know that it's Trump and the GOP's fault.
Disgusted, but not surprisedI'd already start thinking about ads and social media hashtags if I were them.
#DownWithDonald
#MakeAmericaSaneAgain
#Where'sMyMedicaid
etc.
Of course I'm sure that as his presidency goes on they'll have no shortage of material to work with. I want them to be merciless.
Also I suggest utilizing "Dopey Donald", akin to how Nixon was called "Tricky Dick" by his political opponents.
edited 12th Dec '16 4:53:58 AM by Draghinazzo
I would also suggest
#DontBlameMeIVotedHillary
They also need to stick to a few big topics. One problem with the election coverage was that the media couldn't keep up with the number of Trump scandals and didn't give any of them the same focus they gave HRC's fucking emails.
edited 12th Dec '16 5:00:02 AM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprisedOK, I just finished binging through the past 10 pages. So the US intelligence agencies have reasonable proof that Russia did in fact sabotage the election by hacking into both the Democratic and Republican databases (the latter of which had been vehemently denied by the GOP) and then only leaking documents belonging to the former that would tarnish their image in the eyes of gullible voters.
... Doesn't this provide legal ground for negating the election's results and either holding a new one under much tighter security measures, or simply handing over the presidency to Clinton?
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.![]()
In a sane world, yes, but the Republicans have a base rallied around a cult of personality and the chance to control all government. They will not give that up without a fight.
edited 12th Dec '16 5:25:13 AM by Geostomp
"When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all" Futurama, Godfellas@ the China threat: If it starts escalating, I think a lot of countries would align with China. Because China's predictable. They want direct control over Taiwan and Tibet and cultural influence elsewhere. They're not interested in becoming an imperialistic empire. They're not ideal, but they're better than Russia, which flat out annexed part of Ukraine, and what the US is turning into, which is a trigger happy country run by a man with no ability to moderate himself.
I have no love for the CCP, but I think you might be right.
Heck, they're already making headway on that, setting up their own trade agreement and all that now that TPP is finished. They're preparing economic incentives to team up with them.
edited 12th Dec '16 5:32:58 AM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprised
I haven't heard much murmuring about Social Security, but Medicare (along with the ACA) is definitely in the cross-hairs.
I get the feeling that many Republicans hope that if they move quick enough they can get this done while still in the "honeymoon" period of the presidency (tenuous that it is for Trump). Perhaps even more cynically they feel that the success of Trumps campaign, one of the most openly racist and bigoted in recent American history, that their base really doesn't care about Economic stuff so they can pretty much act with impunity on that front, so long as they ensure those "uppity" people are kept in their place of course.
Paul Ryan has been planning to privatize Medicare for many years now, and the GOP is planning a "permanent save" for Social Security that involves massive cuts to its benefits
. Trump almost certainly doesn't care enough to veto either of these.
The Republicans, especially the Randbot Paul Ryan faction, have long dreamed of being able to kill all social safety net programs for their greed and idiotic philosophy. They will overreach on that as soon as possible because of the fact that Trump has their base so enthralled.
"When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all" Futurama, Godfellas

Krieger,
I am once more amazed by your infinite justice and contempt for free speech. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_of_America_v._Village_of_Skokie
One of the greatest things in American history right there.
And if your views are too weak to compete in the marketplace of ideas, they deserve to die.
Balmung,
Our numbers match ...
Also say what you want about founders (people like Toussaint Louverture or Park Jung-hee), but you have to be ballsy, tough and strong to make a country.
Further, you are completely misunderstanding my point on social mobility. The US has bad social mobility. Good social mobility has many advantages - chief among them how meritorious people gain power over the polity.
Redsavant,
It's easier to get people to care about things that impact them personally. It's why in my life here in Korea I go out of my way to align my interests with the locals rather than other ex-pats. I want to be on the stronger team.
It's not fair, but would you rather get laws passed or make a principaled stand.
edited 12th Dec '16 2:38:47 AM by garridob
Great men are almost never good men, they say. One wonders what philosopher of the good would value the impotence of his disciples.