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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Yeah, that's my impression too. Hopefully such a war really is unfeasible.
Given all the unstable thin-skinned strongmen and strongwomen running countries these days, something's gonna give though. And it's not gonna be pretty.
The only consolation is that — for the most part — no one really wants a huge shooting war anymore.
edited 1st Dec '16 6:01:49 PM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprisedTwo, I'm pretty sure that provides exact justification they would need for military intervention anyways.
"We broke the deal because we couldn't expect them to hold up their end of the deal, and now they're violating the agreement just like we told you they would. And there have to be consequences for that kind of behavior.
edited 1st Dec '16 6:16:24 PM by Eschaton
@Madskillz: I just very recently asked for you to provide a link for a quote; please stop giving us quotes without a link for context and proof. It was demonstrated that it's not that hard. After all, you went to the trouble of putting it in a post. Please keep this in mind next time you want to give us something you want to talk about.
Has anyone tried debating with Trump on his level, using his own tactics?
Trump: "It's gonna be great, trust me: I make the best (insert anything here), everyone knows this."
Debater: "No, it's gonna be terrible, no-one should trust you: you make the worst (insert anything here), everyone knows this."
Trying to out-bullshit a guy who has spent his entire life flinging bullshit is not a good idea. He has too much experience in the field.
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There are some economic segregation issues. The public schools I went to when I was younger were pretty good, but I lived in a fairly affluent district. There's not much middle ground. The good schools are very good, and the bad schools are...bad.
edited 1st Dec '16 11:54:54 PM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprisedWe're talking about a guy who was born into immense wealth, has extremely tacky tastes that try to flaunt that immense wealth, who has never really HAD to work for anything in his life, and who generally treats everyone with ambivalence at best and extreme incivility at worst. And this guy managed to convince a bunch of middle and working class people, in spite of those qualities, that he was beyond corporate interests, that he "represented" them and that he would "drain the swamp".
I don't know about you guys but this is one of the biggest cons I've ever seen. I don't think it's possible to out-Trump him. He's in a league of his own.
It would be pretty damn funny to see someone try though.
The problem I think is that they mistook his utter lack of shame and class for Brutal Honesty even though he's one of the most corrupt and dishonest people to walk the Earth. There's a lot of anti-elitism and anti-intellectualism going around these days, which probably played a role in HRC's loss. HRC dresses stylishly in clothes that actually fit, she's well educated, she has vast political experience, she speaks eloquently...that just screams "crooked lying snob" to a lot of people.
I think that was part of Sanders' appeal too. He reminded me a lot of the angry old men with bullhorns who would occasionally show up to yell about shit in the main square of my old college campus. I guess that made him seem more authentic.
edited 2nd Dec '16 12:08:12 AM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprisedEconomic segregation is nothing special in US schools. As frequently discussed, relying on local income taxes tends to generate tax-education-income feedback loops. And if memory serves, local income taxes there (CA) are limited too so the state has to fund a large part of education.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Since I lived in a very affluent district, I'm not personally familiar with the full impact of Prop 13. But by all accounts Prop 13 is one of the reasons California's public school system is not as good as it ought to be. Class sizes are larger for example.
edited 2nd Dec '16 12:18:37 AM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprisedTrump: The Choice We Face
. From the author of that "rules for surviving an autocracy" article, this one develops further the ideas explored in that one, dealing with the choice between collaboration and resistance.
@M84, NC votes for Cooper now exceed 10,000 so Mc Crory can't call for a state recount, but the republican-held election board is playing a loophole; nothing says they can't just call for recounts in individual counties.

A war in Iran will make Iraq look like pillow fight.
It is sometimes an appropriate response to reality to go insane.