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Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#159926: Dec 1st 2016 at 2:23:38 PM

[up]OMG, that's insanely dangerous! More lariams! More thalidomides!

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#159927: Dec 1st 2016 at 2:24:42 PM

We really need to do something about porkbarreling. Seriously, you get smeared for voting against a particularly horrible part of a law that is otherwise beneficial, and suddenly your opposition gets to claim you voted against a just and necessary law.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#159928: Dec 1st 2016 at 2:27:41 PM

Boehner banned pork barreling/riders. Ryan's held it up as much as well.

Tbh, you kind of need Porkbarrel / Hand greasing in politics.

Keep this in mind: Carrier Deal is going to be touted as a major success by Trump voters (i.e. the ones who wanted jobs to not go overseas). They won't care about specifics or inability of replication. Don't care about GOP politics. It's a sign he's doing what he said he'd do. Reality doesn't matter. Truthiness matters. And it's going to give him a legend that could very well keep him in office for 8 years.

edited 1st Dec '16 2:28:52 PM by PotatoesRock

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#159929: Dec 1st 2016 at 2:31:31 PM

I would not be surprised if Trump got 8 years to be frank. If he got this far, he could certainly go all the way.

Plenty of things could happen to knock him off as a one-term president, but the cult of personality surrounding him has already taken root.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#159930: Dec 1st 2016 at 2:39:40 PM

Mad Dog Mattis is your new Secretary of Defense.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/01/politics/james-mattis-trump-secretary-of-defense/index.html

God save America...

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#159931: Dec 1st 2016 at 3:05:58 PM

Well, he doesn't seem too enthusiastic about torture. So, there's that...

Oh God! Natural light!
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#159932: Dec 1st 2016 at 3:11:32 PM

I guess he might be speaking rhetorically but the way he answered that question implies he is addressing the lack of utility of torture based on experience (torturing people). Am I reading that answer wrong?

TheWanted Since: Oct, 2013
#159933: Dec 1st 2016 at 3:12:25 PM

Maybe the next time protesters are burning American flags in frront of trump tower I'll head over and wave a burning Mexican and rainbow flag in each hand.

Yinyang107 from the True North (Decatroper) Relationship Status: Tongue-tied
#159934: Dec 1st 2016 at 3:18:56 PM

Why? That would mean you have a beef with Mexico and the LGBT community.

tricksterson Never Trust from Behind you with an icepick Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Never Trust
#159935: Dec 1st 2016 at 3:24:08 PM

[up][up]Which would be within your constitutional rights just as it is within theirs. More productive IMHGO as I think someone here already suggested would be for them to burn a Confederate and/or Nazi flag. Would you have a problem with that?

Trump delenda est
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#159936: Dec 1st 2016 at 3:30:50 PM

Yeah I think burning Confederate and Nazi Germany flags would be more meaningful.

HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#159937: Dec 1st 2016 at 3:48:19 PM

@ Julian Lapostat

Actually getting Pence to be President would be a safer way of doing that. As VP, Pence sits in on Senate meetings and discussions and has some impact there but as President he has no say in the House and Senate.

So if Pence wants to pass FADA he has more legroom as VP than as President. And even if Pence wants to, overturning LGBT means overturning the Supreme Court precedent. He can't introduce a bill overnight.

And the situation where Pence becomes President has him doing a lot of legwork fixing Trump's mistakes and embezzling and restoring competent governance. That will keep him and the rest busy.

And of course Pence will not get re-elected.

Will that apply for any attempts to curb Net Neutrality too?

carbon-mantis Collector Of Fine Oddities from Trumpland Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
Collector Of Fine Oddities
#159938: Dec 1st 2016 at 4:17:16 PM

The 21st Century Cures act is damn dangerous. The wording allows for drugs to be approved entirely on "clinical experience" ie, anecdotal evidence, and skip randomized trials. It offers the carrot of increased research funding while setting some of the first groundwork for the Libertarian dream of dismantling the FDA's authority entirely. Also gives a whole new avenue for alternative medicine to wrap it's slimy tentacles around, since its "proof" relies entirely on anecdotes.

edit- And the research funding is paid for by more gutting of public health funds to boot.

editedit-

General Mattis may ruffle a few fundamentalist feathers with his opinions on the Israel-Palestine conflict. He's quoted as saying “If I’m in Jerusalem and I put 500 Jewish settlers out here to the east and there’s 10,000 Arab settlers in here, if we draw the border to include them, either it ceases to be a Jewish state or you say the Arabs don’t get to vote — apartheid. . ." and is said to back John Kerry on the issue. Not something that will please the rest of Trump's lackeys.

edited 1st Dec '16 6:41:13 PM by carbon-mantis

LogoP Party Crasher from the Land of Deep Blue Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Party Crasher
#159939: Dec 1st 2016 at 4:57:28 PM

Texas will require aborted fetuses to be buried or cremated.

It is sometimes an appropriate response to reality to go insane.
JulianLapostat Since: Feb, 2014
#159940: Dec 1st 2016 at 5:02:39 PM

Will that apply for any attempts to curb Net Neutrality too?

Even some republicans are not entirely on board with it. Of course Pence will do some damage I am quite sure and it may be that the Net Neutrality issue will be part of that.

[up]...As for Texas, man even the medieval people weren't this bad.

LogoP Party Crasher from the Land of Deep Blue Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Party Crasher
#159941: Dec 1st 2016 at 5:03:45 PM

I wonder what they are gonna write on those gravestones. Will women be forced to name their aborted fetuses, too?

It is sometimes an appropriate response to reality to go insane.
JulianLapostat Since: Feb, 2014
#159942: Dec 1st 2016 at 5:04:22 PM

[up] America is starting to become like Saudi Arabia.

JulianLapostat Since: Feb, 2014
#159943: Dec 1st 2016 at 5:05:57 PM

This kind of thing really puts Euripides' Medea in perspective I think...

ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#159944: Dec 1st 2016 at 5:18:50 PM

[up][up]I will have to disagree-several members of the house of Saud appear sane, reasonably stable, and capable of planning more than 6 months into the future.

edited 1st Dec '16 5:19:23 PM by ViperMagnum357

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#159945: Dec 1st 2016 at 5:19:35 PM

"The Election proved him wrong since his electorate voted for race and against someone who is not for their interests "

The problem is they think Trump will care for them BECAUSE they voted for race, "He said good thing about us, therefore he will do and amazing job as president"

as other said, this is pretty much feel campaign, I saw the same here in my country(Venezuela) and almost 2 years later we are fuck beyond belief, granted I dont think it will be the same but Im seeing a lot of parallels right now

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#159946: Dec 1st 2016 at 5:23:25 PM

[up] Gut Feeling tends to work a lot better in fiction than in Real Life. Especially when voting. tongue

@Logo P

So that disgusting law is actually a thing in Texas now. Fuck. Welp, so much for abortion clinics in Texas. The whole thing is a sneaky bullshit roundabout way to run them out of business. Funerals and cremations aren't exactly cheap.

edited 1st Dec '16 5:28:33 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#159947: Dec 1st 2016 at 5:34:56 PM

Mathis:You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil. You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them. Actually it's quite fun to fight them, you know. It's a hell of a hoot. It's fun to shoot some people. I'll be right up there with you. I like brawling.

Looks like we got a blood knight in the cabinet.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#159948: Dec 1st 2016 at 5:47:52 PM

[up] Link please. Not that I doubt the quote is real.

So who do you think we'll be going to war with in the next few years? My bet's on Iran.

Sigh...I can tell these next few years are gonna be "fun". sad

edited 1st Dec '16 5:49:17 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
JulianLapostat Since: Feb, 2014
#159949: Dec 1st 2016 at 5:52:40 PM

Nope, not Iran.

Putin won't allow it, China won't allow it. Iran is the cool kid of geopolitics now.

And that Iran N-Deal can't be backed away from as GOP lawmakers are starting to realize belatedly how legislation works. Iran has all the money kept behind sanctions and they have enough capital and means to build a nuke were US to break the deal.

You might see an attempt to invade Cuba however. Eventually someone in Trump's team will get the idea why not rally us behind a popular war. After all, there's no USSR or Russia to threaten America with Nukes...that's how Cuba got protected.

Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#159950: Dec 1st 2016 at 5:55:01 PM

[up][up]From Wikiquote ( https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/James_Mattis ):

You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil. You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them. Actually it's quite fun to fight them, you know. It's a hell of a hoot. It's fun to shoot some people. I'll be right up there with you. I like brawling. —Panel discussion in San Diego, California (1 February 2005) as quoted in "General: It's 'fun to shoot some people'" CNN (4 February 2005)(For a more contextualized explanation of General Mattis' remarks, see this essay by one of the Marines who served under Mattis: "Breaking the Warrior Code" The American Spectator (February 11, 2005) by John R. Guardiano


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