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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Haven't heard much about the recounts, other than that Stein managed to pay for the Wisconsin recount filing
after the price hike, and she just filed for one in Michigan
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"UH WANNA STEEEK IT TO TUH FEEEE-MEEEE-NEEESTS" They are literally the target demographic for Tyler Durden's pitch. Which is kind of what wound up happening...
edited 1st Dec '16 12:17:43 PM by Krieger22
I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiotThere is only fascist here, Donald Trump...don't call Hillary a fascist or a fascist-enabler...
The Democrats are the only party who operate on principles and they keep getting screwed over for it. If the Green Party were really serious they could go to Red States and campaign and screw over local elections and get votes away from Republicans...the reason they don't do that is because the Republicans are "proper villains", they have no principles, and they are far more conniving about using dirty tricks to get people out of town. The Democrats didn't act that way with the Green Party to their sorrow.
Next time, tell the DNC to go medieval on their asses. Do them in as nonviolent a way as possible what Robespierre did to the Hebertists (aka Green Party of the French Revolution).
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That assumes they still have a filibuster-the Republicans can eliminate it on their own and have threatened to do so. Considering they are already talking about calling a constitutional convention, I think the current trends support most of the Democratic party being locked out of the government until they are formally disenfranchised by a rewritten constitution. That is not jumping the gun-they have already threatened as much, and that is without the actual fascist policies suggested by Bannon.
edited 1st Dec '16 1:11:04 PM by ViperMagnum357
Obama actually got a lot done
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Then there’s Dodd-Frank, the auto bailout, kicking the banks out of the student loan process, eliminating Bush’s restrictions on stem cell research, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, the Fair Sentencing Act, the Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, the Food Safety Modernization Act, the new START treaty, the end of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, two great SCOTUS Justices, vital tax breaks for the poor coupled with tax increases on the wealthy, just a flood of kickass regulations on issues ranging from power plants and fuel efficiency to tobacco and credit cards…But let me just point to three genuine historical landmarks from this past year, in three different corners of the globe: the Iran nuclear deal, the Paris climate treaty, and the re-establishment of diplomatic relations with Cuba. Taken together, that trio sums up the hope and change I had in mind.
So this happened in Marvel and pre-dated Trump's candidacy.
@Dingo: Ah, but that assumes the Democrats are going to stay a united front, which isn't a given. Indeed, the Democratic senators from Red states- the ones who'll be up for re-election in 2018- will have to be very careful when it comes to obstructing Trump.
If we use Nate Silver's analysis of this,
and assume everyone equally or less favourable to Trump than Raud Paul consistently stands against him, we have... 51 Senators standing against him. Exactly enough, with no room left for error.
Chris Christie wants to become RNC Chair.
I swear Kushner bouncing Christie for jailing his dad is going to come to bite him in the ass.
Only Christie could go to Democratic America.
And being the perpetual gadflies they are, Warren and Sanders oppose the bill on the ramrodding/hand outs to the Pharmaceutical industry.

Of all the people who didn't vote for Clinton, the Green Party voters are the ones who had the smallest impact.
I mean, if we're tossing blame around, I'm sure one could find a way to blame just about anyone, and indeed mostly you'd be right- even the people who vote Dem are probably guilty of alienating somebody, or just failing to reach out and try to change people's minds.
The greens were always going to get some votes. The fact that they got enough vote that they could've swung the election if those people voted Dem instead only serves to illustrate how goddamn close the election was.