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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#159876: Dec 1st 2016 at 10:54:38 AM

I really don't think Trump is going to up and quit or resign from the post. I think it more likely that he'll just decline to run for president again in four years, if he's gotten sick of it. His ego won't let him quit at this point. Hell, his ego may well cause him to run again in four years. (Running again just seems to be a thing incumbents do in this day and age anyway.) He may even get impeached at some point. But he's not going to quit of his own free will.

[up]Involuntarily celibate, as I've become familiar with the term. It's a term coined by the men's rights movement/alt-righters that Bannon and co. get their money from. Basically means men who can't get women to have sex with them because feminism.

edited 1st Dec '16 10:56:00 AM by AceofSpades

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#159877: Dec 1st 2016 at 10:55:46 AM

Bernie Sanders wrote that Trump's dealings with Carrier will simply result in all Corporations threatening to offshore jobs and getting benefits to keep them here. It's a pretty decent article, I must say.

Also, I'm not too sure, but I think Trump's plans (if they are to give money and tax breaks to them only) would amount to Bribery or Graft.tongue

AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#159878: Dec 1st 2016 at 10:56:19 AM

[up][up][up]A particularly pathetic breed of online wanker who thinks that they are "involuntarily celibate" and that they are owed a woman by society, or even the state.

Example. Enjoy.

edited 1st Dec '16 10:56:27 AM by AmbarSonofDeshar

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#159879: Dec 1st 2016 at 10:57:13 AM

[up][up][up][up][up][up]Quite honestly the deep state wanting to press charges against him, pushing him to resign is more likely than public pressure.

[up][up][up][up]Involuntary celibates. Usually whining about how the popular girls in school don't want to have sex with him despite his "niceness".

edited 1st Dec '16 10:57:35 AM by Krieger22

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#159880: Dec 1st 2016 at 10:59:12 AM

There's see-saw effect here- to get him to resign, I think, we need the masses and politicians from both parties to pressure him into leaving. The Democrats are a given, but the GOP is a thornier issue. Because if they like him, it damages his support among his base, but if they hate him, then he's pleasing his base.

So anti-establishment sentiment prevents the country from being truly unified against him.

So what it would take to get him to resign, probably, is his inner circle of nutjobs turning on him as well. He'd have to do something bad enough that even scum like Bannon can't defend him. A tall order, to say the least.

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#159881: Dec 1st 2016 at 11:00:51 AM

[up][up]Eh, I wouldn't be against subsidized regulated prostitution, in a climate where prostitutes get respect and good pay.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#159882: Dec 1st 2016 at 11:20:04 AM

[up]Do you think anyone in the sex industry would get either from incels or any other part of the manosphere?

More Twitter insights: It really does seem like we got the best of Snowden's two worlds.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#159883: Dec 1st 2016 at 11:30:25 AM

[up][up]...Did you read the link I posted? These guys want rape to be legal.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#159884: Dec 1st 2016 at 11:30:49 AM

'sides, are you so sure that Pence is better than Trump? Trump is a bigot and utter cretin in terms of policy but so is the rest of the GOP.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#159885: Dec 1st 2016 at 11:34:43 AM

[up] Kansas being a perfect example.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#159886: Dec 1st 2016 at 11:38:47 AM

In some ways, Trump is actually better than Pence. Trump overlooks a ton of groups and doesn't care about others. All Trump ultimately seems to want is to be liked. Pence wants to impose his narrow version of fundamentalist christianity on everyone.

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#159887: Dec 1st 2016 at 11:53:30 AM

Thing is Trump being president doesn't do away with Pence, Pence being president does do away with Trump.

Also there's always the nuclear button and the ability to order the use of military force, Trump could accidentally end the world, Pence would only end certain demographic groups.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
JulianLapostat Since: Feb, 2014
#159888: Dec 1st 2016 at 11:55:34 AM

And there's no way Pence will ever get re-elected. Trump barely succeeded and he needed the luck of Gladstone Gander to do it...Pence doesn't have that.

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#159889: Dec 1st 2016 at 11:56:37 AM

Are those demographic group worth it, then?

I suppose the LGBT should already be used to being everyone's acceptable losses

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#159890: Dec 1st 2016 at 11:59:38 AM

[up]It's easier to fight off Pence's measures than it is to shoot down a lot of ICBMs. It's a matter of scale, as distasteful as it is.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#159891: Dec 1st 2016 at 12:00:34 PM

[up][up][up]Speaking of "Luck of Gladstone Gander", the official count (unless there is a recount) of MI, PA, and WI is done. Green Party confirmed for G.R.E.E.N. party (Get Republicans Elected Every November).

edited 1st Dec '16 12:01:02 PM by IFwanderer

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
JulianLapostat Since: Feb, 2014
#159892: Dec 1st 2016 at 12:00:56 PM

Actually getting Pence to be President would be a safer way of doing that. As VP, Pence sits in on Senate meetings and discussions and has some impact there but as President he has no say in the House and Senate.

So if Pence wants to pass FADA he has more legroom as VP than as President. And even if Pence wants to, overturning LGBT means overturning the Supreme Court precedent. He can't introduce a bill overnight.

And the situation where Pence becomes President has him doing a lot of legwork fixing Trump's mistakes and embezzling and restoring competent governance. That will keep him and the rest busy.

And of course Pence will not get re-elected.

Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#159893: Dec 1st 2016 at 12:01:51 PM

The thing is that I'm not convinced Trump will do anything to prevent Pence from inacting his agenda.

The issue is less whether or not they're acceptable losses, and more that I don't see any way saving them from a hostile presidency, while I do see a way of saving everyone else.

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#159894: Dec 1st 2016 at 12:02:09 PM

[up]x7 Yeeup. It's like when I take the bus home from the work. The route I use lasts anywhere from 40 minutes to an hour, but there just so happens to be another route I could take that would get me home in just 30-40 minutes. The only problem is, there's a 1% chance of me getting shot. I go by that bus stop every day on the way to my other job, and while it's quiet most of the time, there was that one occasion where someone was trying to shoot up somebody else right outside the bus, and it still wasn't in the most savory part of town anyways. So even though there isn't that much of a chance me getting shot, the price to pay that if that 1% comes to pass is just too high. Now imagine if, instead of getting shot at with bullets, I could potentially be shot at with nuclear missles, and you get the idea.tongue

edited 1st Dec '16 12:02:38 PM by kkhohoho

JulianLapostat Since: Feb, 2014
#159895: Dec 1st 2016 at 12:02:30 PM

F—king Fifth Columnist Green Party.

Mio Since: Jan, 2001
#159896: Dec 1st 2016 at 12:04:15 PM

I honestly doubt that many of those Green Party voters would have ultimately gone Clinton if push came to shove, but it is an excellent demonstration of how close the election was.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#159897: Dec 1st 2016 at 12:05:05 PM

Yeah the thing is Pence is going to be enacting his agenda regardless of whether Trump's there or not. He's the de facto president either way. Having Trump around isn't going to keep him from trying to push his evangelical BS and also increases the chances of our economy going completely into the shitter or us getting into an unwanted war. Meanwhile with Trump gone it's harder for Pence to use his VP position as a cover as more spotlight will be shone on what he's up to. Plus he won't get reelected either.

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#159898: Dec 1st 2016 at 12:06:55 PM

Any news on whether that recount is happening? Or if it would make any difference? I don't care about opinions on consequences or whatever, I'm just asking about stats.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
JulianLapostat Since: Feb, 2014
#159899: Dec 1st 2016 at 12:07:37 PM

I honestly doubt that many of those Green Party voters would have ultimately gone Clinton if push came to shove, but it is an excellent demonstration of how close the election was.

If. They. Had. Just. Stayed. Home. And. Not. Voted.

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#159900: Dec 1st 2016 at 12:08:27 PM

...Did you read the link I posted? These guys want rape to be legal.

That's stupid and evil in a very sad sort of way. What kind of resentful, power-craving, craven, creep, do you have to be to prefer rape over prostitution?

F—king Fifth Columnist Green Party.

Southern MOTHERFUCKIN' DEMOCRATIC REPUBLICANS!

edited 1st Dec '16 12:09:45 PM by TheHandle

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