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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#154976: Nov 14th 2016 at 10:07:00 AM

[up][up] It should also be noted that the way political parties work in the US makes it very difficult for minor parties to actually do that.

edited 14th Nov '16 10:07:09 AM by CaptainCapsase

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#154977: Nov 14th 2016 at 10:07:28 AM

He was only really in play in Utah, though, and I get the sense he ran specifically in protest against Trump. Not that he appeared to like Clinton, either, but I think any other Republican candidate would not have garnered such a response.

[up]We know that. It still makes sense to try that than constant impotent presidential bids.

edited 14th Nov '16 10:08:05 AM by AceofSpades

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#154978: Nov 14th 2016 at 10:07:46 AM

This just reminds me that my own Grandpa voted for Trump, which shocks me. He's a good honest man full of integrity who raised his stepchildren not to be closed-minded bigots, and we all love him. And yet he still voted for Trump. Apparently, it's because he's a diehard Republican all the way who hasn't voted Democrat yet and won't now, which also shocks me because being a Republican in this day and age goes against every single one of the values his stepchildren and grandchildren (like me,) ended up inheriting from him and hold dear to their hearts. I'm assuming he's a Republican for economic reasons more than anything else, because he's not a conservative on a social level. What really gets me is that he's better than this, but then again, if he voted for Trump, maybe he's not.

edited 14th Nov '16 10:10:37 AM by kkhohoho

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#154979: Nov 14th 2016 at 10:08:43 AM

[up] People are very complex sometimes. Having contradictions is part of what makes us human.

PhilosopherStones Anyways Here's Darude Sandstorm from The North (lots of planets have them) (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Anyways Here's Darude Sandstorm
#154980: Nov 14th 2016 at 10:13:02 AM

Tens of thousands voting for Harambe seems unlikely since most states require a candidate to file paperwork for votes towards them to be counted.

The media literally pulled the number of Harambe "Supporters" out of their ass.

Also, you have to be over the age of 35 to qualify for candidacy.

Harambe was only 17.

There's also that fact that he's a gorilla.

And also dead.

GIVE ME YOUR FACE
pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Cape Malleum Majorem
#154981: Nov 14th 2016 at 10:14:18 AM

My mother told me a story she'd read online somewhere: A 77-year-old man, who had never voted before in his entire life, registered and cast his ballot for the very first time — against Trump.

Not that it did any good, but still... For every double-thinking, state-of-denial, insane troll logic voter, there's another who finally got their head on straight.

edited 14th Nov '16 10:21:51 AM by pwiegle

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#154982: Nov 14th 2016 at 10:15:08 AM

He was a write-in candidate.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#154983: Nov 14th 2016 at 10:15:09 AM

The legality or even sensibility of whether or not someone, or some animal, can actually assume the office has nothing to do with whether or not a bunch of idiots decide to write in the name as a form of protest or joke. The write in is basically whatever the voter feels like putting there.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#154984: Nov 14th 2016 at 10:17:03 AM

@Philosopher Stones-

Writing in a name doesn't have any legal effect. Like if hypothetically, somehow more people wrote in say Colin Powell than voted for any of the candidates on the ballot, that doesn't mean that Powell would become President, since he was never actually running.

So when people are writing in names, it's basically just as a gesture to indicate they didn't want to vote for anyone on the ballot.

[nja]

edited 14th Nov '16 10:17:27 AM by Hodor2

ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#154985: Nov 14th 2016 at 10:18:03 AM

Last I heard, Harambe had received north of 14,000 votes, making it real possibility that a dead gorilla garnered more support than some of the actual third party candidates who appeared in only a handful of states.

On the other hand, those same reports claim it a fake. And with write ins frequently not fully tallied, there is no way to know-though I am genuinely curious.

edited 14th Nov '16 10:21:42 AM by ViperMagnum357

PhilosopherStones Anyways Here's Darude Sandstorm from The North (lots of planets have them) (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Anyways Here's Darude Sandstorm
#154986: Nov 14th 2016 at 10:18:18 AM

Oh I'm not denying that some people are idiots. I'm just saying the numbers are impossible to determine since most of Harambe's votes wouldn't have been counted.

Claiming tens of thousands of people voted for him is a ridiculous claim based on nothing.

GIVE ME YOUR FACE
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#154987: Nov 14th 2016 at 10:24:57 AM

49% of the US's citizens failed to either register or vote.
42%, actually. The estimated voter turnout this year is 58%.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#154988: Nov 14th 2016 at 10:29:26 AM

Point is: "half of America" did not vote Trump. More like, half of the half that bothered to vote.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#154989: Nov 14th 2016 at 10:39:45 AM

Aren't only half the citizens even elligible in the first place due to age and so on?

Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#154990: Nov 14th 2016 at 10:41:08 AM

Point is: "half of America" did not vote Trump. More like, half of the half that bothered to vote.
Or more accurately, less than half of that half-ish who bothered to vote cast their ballots for Trump (I mean, the same goes for Hillary, but the point is, Trump did not even get a plurality of the vote from the people who could be bothered to vote).

By the way, if it wasn't so horrific in its consequences, it would be hilarious how the Electoral College is now producing the opposite of the Founders' intention - it was meant to keep a popular demagogue from becoming POTUS by shielding the office from the dumb and easily swayed voters, but now it's putting a demagogue into the Oval Office against the will of the popular vote.

edited 14th Nov '16 10:43:24 AM by Balmung

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#154991: Nov 14th 2016 at 10:41:38 AM

I believe the statistic drew from voting age people.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#154992: Nov 14th 2016 at 10:45:58 AM

Yeah, the statistics don't usually count those too young to vote or ineligible for other reasons. It only takes from registered voters.

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#154993: Nov 14th 2016 at 10:48:41 AM

I think the one I looked at drew from all eligible, registered or not. That might be why my numbers were higher.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#154996: Nov 14th 2016 at 11:04:19 AM

[up]Well. I guess we will be having a war of sorts on our hands after all.tongue

speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#154997: Nov 14th 2016 at 11:31:54 AM

It's funny, back in high school I used to hate the ACLU because I thought they were merely a bunch of overly-PC people looking for reasons to be offended and raise a stink. Funny how opinions change as you grow older; now, I consider them indispensable against potential government abuse.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#154998: Nov 14th 2016 at 11:44:14 AM

John Oliver suggested donating to civil rights organizations now that Trump is president. I think this is sound advice. Once I graduate and have a full time job I'll set up monthly donations to Planned Parenthood, the ACLU, and any others that I'm able to give to.

ThePaul Since: Jun, 2015
#154999: Nov 14th 2016 at 11:59:20 AM

[up][up] For all the popularity of the saying "If you're not a liberal at 20 you don't have a heart, if you're not a conservative at 40 you don't have a brain" there's a lot of fear-stoking and appealing to ineffectively/oversimplified models of the world and so on involved in modern conservatism.

It appeals to many of us in our youth, when we have a narrow and limited experience of the world.

When and if we grow up, many of its ideas become less palatable.

edited 14th Nov '16 12:00:08 PM by ThePaul

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#155000: Nov 14th 2016 at 12:21:28 PM

[up] That statement is also quite blatantly false; in the Reagan era, the oldest people (the Greatest Generation) were the most staunchly democrat leaning, and the young (Generation X) relatively Republican leaning.


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