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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#154776: Nov 13th 2016 at 5:53:27 PM

[up][up] Everybody but Trump seems to realize that.

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#154777: Nov 13th 2016 at 5:55:54 PM

[up][up]Hire him for TopGear and make him give a follow up to the Argentina episode. We'll take care of him.

edited 13th Nov '16 5:56:07 PM by IFwanderer

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#154779: Nov 13th 2016 at 5:59:55 PM

[up] So now President Obama has to waste his lame duck period teaching the idiot how to do the damn job. Great.

Disgusted, but not surprised
dysphere Since: Jan, 2015
#154780: Nov 13th 2016 at 6:02:35 PM

Humiliatingly for Obama, he has to hand over the presidency to someone who was a birther, who doesn't believe Obama got the presidency legitimately.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#154781: Nov 13th 2016 at 6:04:40 PM

On the other hand there is the off chance that he can worm his way into Trump's head and make him dependent on him in secret. Somehow.

MonsieurThenardier Searching from Murika Since: Nov, 2016 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
Searching
#154782: Nov 13th 2016 at 6:05:34 PM

[up][up][up] At this point, Civil War might be a better option than a Trump presidency.
So do people on this forum actively try to be the best possible advertisement for the right or what.

Humiliatingly for Obama, he has to hand over the presidency to someone who was a birther, who doesn't believe Obama got the presidency legitimately.
What's important is that Donny has the power to destroy almost every positive achievement Obama made with the President's powers. TPP? Torn up, the President has close to full power over trade treaties. Obamacare? Torn up, especially with a Republican Congress. Iranian nuclear deal and detente with Iran? Oh you better believe that's getting torn up; "it's a terrible deal, worst deal I've ever seen".

edited 13th Nov '16 6:09:46 PM by MonsieurThenardier

"It is very easy to be kind; the difficulty lies in being just."
Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#154783: Nov 13th 2016 at 6:06:45 PM

[up][up]There's going above and beyond the call of duty, and then there's that... :/

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#154784: Nov 13th 2016 at 6:07:10 PM

I can see a movie in the future. A tense political procedural drama where Obama, in his last days in office, has to match wits with Trump, and must use his full political guile to traverse Trump's mind and either convince him off his wrongs or trick him into minimizing the damage he'll cause, as well as using his influence in last-ditch efforts to protect the people of America from the oncoming tyranny in a deadly race against the clock to save democracy.

Starring Will Smith as Barack Obama. Ray Winstone as Donald Trump. Tommy Lee Jones as Joe Biden. Anthony Hopkins as Pence.

Featuring Daniel Radcliffe as John Oliver.

Directed by Oliver Stone.

"The 11th Hour".

edited 13th Nov '16 6:08:12 PM by Gaon

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Wryte Since: Jul, 2010
#154785: Nov 13th 2016 at 6:08:33 PM

If you're just going to keep cherry picking whatever suits your insistence that we're all communist hippy vigilantes itching to burn down the real America, the door's right there.

Victin Since: Dec, 2011
#154786: Nov 13th 2016 at 6:13:51 PM

President-Elect Donald Trump’s ’60 Minutes’ Interview: 12 Biggest Takeaways. Apparently he criticized the Electoral College, mentioned he doesn't plan to revert Obergefell v. Hodges, but does think about appointing a "pro-life" judge.

There's an youtube stream, but I'm not sure it's official, so I can just pull it off this post if it is, as per the forum's rules. If I'm still awake, it's 00:11 here @_@

@Captain Capsace: What about poor women who can't go to another state as easily? :<

That's one point I've seen being brought up multiple times against making abortion illegal. Upper-class women can just go to another country get an abortion if so they desire. Sometimes even middle-class women if the country is a close one. Maybe somewhere like the EU?

Jetyl The Dev Cat from my apartment Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
The Dev Cat
#154787: Nov 13th 2016 at 6:16:43 PM

@Aceof Spades - please don't make assumptions of what I am or am not aware of.

I'm afraid I can't explain myself, sir. Because I am not myself, you see?
Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#154788: Nov 13th 2016 at 6:17:19 PM

The other thing about Roe v. Wade is that the only district court that still has a problem with it is the 5th District Court. The others are unlikely to let it get above that level. Because if the district court declines to hear an appeal about a local court issue, it can't go any further.

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A procrastination in of itself
#154789: Nov 13th 2016 at 6:23:20 PM

So do people on this forum actively try to be the best possible advertisement for the right or what.

Only a couple of them and they tend to get thumped petty fast if people bother to report them (that's why the calls for violence against Trump supporters have stopped).

@Captain Capsace: What about poor women who can't go to another state as easily? :<

I don't think Trump understands the idea of being so poor you can't go out of state whenever you want.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#154790: Nov 13th 2016 at 6:24:20 PM

I heard that hiring Steve Bannon is as bad as hiring David Duke? Can someone please clarify/explain?

edited 13th Nov '16 6:24:59 PM by BearyScary

Do not obey in advance.
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#154791: Nov 13th 2016 at 6:25:18 PM

[up] Bannon is the owner of Breitbart.

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#154792: Nov 13th 2016 at 6:26:36 PM

Except from what I understand, Bannon isn't a position of any real authoritarian power. He still shouldn't be in the White House at all, but at least that's not bad as the alternative.

Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#154793: Nov 13th 2016 at 6:26:45 PM

David Duke is incredibly obvious about being a right-wing lunatic, being a head of the KKK. Steve Bannon is the current champion of the "alt-right" which is basically a friendly way of saying Neo-Nazi.

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#154794: Nov 13th 2016 at 6:27:39 PM

[up]Or as I like to say, 'Neo Nazi Nitwit.' Not much of a difference either way.tongue

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#154795: Nov 13th 2016 at 6:29:17 PM

"Nazis without the fashion sense."

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#154796: Nov 13th 2016 at 6:30:51 PM

Lord have mercy. -.-

But as long as people like that are not in any real position of power...

This could metaphorically blow up in some of these peoples' faces if they have further political ambitions depending on how this all shakes out.

edited 13th Nov '16 6:34:35 PM by BearyScary

Do not obey in advance.
Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#154797: Nov 13th 2016 at 6:33:41 PM

One other thing to consider about the idea of saying women can go to a different state. That would mean the state they're in regards abortion as illegal. That means the state could potentially make it illegal for a women to leave the state for the express purpose of getting an abortion in another state.

After all, that's what a number of countries do. It's not just illegal to have an abortion but if you travel to a country where abortion is legal, you can be prosecuted for that upon your return home.

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#154798: Nov 13th 2016 at 6:36:32 PM

@Silasw:

"I don't think Trump understands the idea of being so poor you can't go out of state whenever you want."

Yep. He even wants to return to Trump Tower in NYC every week while he's POTUS.

If he actually tries this, I can't imagine New Yorkers being happy about it. The one silver lining for them was that they were finally rid of Trump for at least four years.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#154799: Nov 13th 2016 at 6:38:01 PM

[up][up]There's no real way to police that. No one guards the border between states, and even if they do, if the women do it early enough, how is anyone supposed to tell what their reason for travelling is?

edited 13th Nov '16 6:39:02 PM by Zendervai

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#154800: Nov 13th 2016 at 6:39:31 PM

Trump is fine with gay marriage remaining legal. Mixed signals much?

Part of me wonders if this sort of contradiction is going to become a mainstay of the Trump administration, and might be used to help obscure what the executive branch is actually doing.

edited 13th Nov '16 6:40:23 PM by CaptainCapsase


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