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Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#153376: Nov 10th 2016 at 12:42:38 PM

Which party would he run under?

vandro Shop Owner from The little shop that wasn't Since: Jul, 2009
Shop Owner
#153377: Nov 10th 2016 at 12:45:08 PM

The YEEZY party. Sorry, I had to.

TropesForever God forbid women do anything from wait where is she Since: Sep, 2016 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
God forbid women do anything
#153378: Nov 10th 2016 at 12:45:59 PM

I saw a picture of Obama hugging Hillary last night. It was strangely heartwarming. I think it was attached to an important article, but I've forgotten now.

Incidentally, if we're nominating celebrities for the 2020 election, I want a Goelz/Whitmire administration.

edited 10th Nov '16 12:50:11 PM by TropesForever

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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#153379: Nov 10th 2016 at 12:46:28 PM

Early on, Mr. Clinton had pleaded with Robby Mook, Mrs. Clinton’s campaign manager, to do more outreach with working-class white and rural voters. But his advice fell on deaf ears.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/10/us/politics/hillary-clinton-campaign.html?_r=0

Mook...you stupid, STUPID motherfucker.

New Survey coming this weekend!
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#153380: Nov 10th 2016 at 12:47:32 PM

Ugh, why wasn't Bill allowed to run her campaign? He knows a thing or two about building coalitions and, I don't know, fucking winning elections!

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Vampireandthen In love with an Uptown Girl from Northern Ireland Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: A teenager in love
In love with an Uptown Girl
#153381: Nov 10th 2016 at 12:48:19 PM

Honestly, they Democrats should have picked Sanders. He had the backing of the Millennials.

Please allow me to introduce myself, I am a man of wealth and taste. Nice to meet you, hope you can guess my name.
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#153382: Nov 10th 2016 at 12:48:52 PM

I know many people here don't think highly of Thunderf00t, but he just released a video I think it is worthy to watch over the anti-science of Trump and his team and the reaction aimed towards anyone who criticizes Trump regardless of the validity of the criticism.

Inter arma enim silent leges
vandro Shop Owner from The little shop that wasn't Since: Jul, 2009
Shop Owner
#153383: Nov 10th 2016 at 12:49:36 PM

He is consistent, he was also remain back in brexit.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#153384: Nov 10th 2016 at 12:50:17 PM

A portion of them, and he couldn't get enough to win the primary. And he would have driven "moderates" and Republicans (since we now know that he wasn't that scary to them, and that the GOP base has no principles) to Trump. Plus there was his issues with older minority voters.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Vampireandthen In love with an Uptown Girl from Northern Ireland Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: A teenager in love
In love with an Uptown Girl
#153385: Nov 10th 2016 at 12:50:29 PM

Holy shit, Clinton didn't want to reach out to white Catholics? Really? I'm a white Catholic! Wow! Just wow! I don't know how to feel about that!

Please allow me to introduce myself, I am a man of wealth and taste. Nice to meet you, hope you can guess my name.
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#153386: Nov 10th 2016 at 12:51:29 PM

Its starting to look like her campaign was mismanaged worse than Trump's was, it was just easier to hide.

And racism and ignorance did the rest.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
vandro Shop Owner from The little shop that wasn't Since: Jul, 2009
Shop Owner
#153387: Nov 10th 2016 at 12:52:28 PM

They expected the demographic shifts to cover up for their lack of coalition building in the rust belt.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#153388: Nov 10th 2016 at 12:52:47 PM

Wow. That's damning. And yeah, like it or not, minorities are still minorities. Unconscious racists or not you can't just alienate white male voters and hope that minorities and women are enough to make it up.

edited 10th Nov '16 12:53:41 PM by AlleyOop

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#153389: Nov 10th 2016 at 12:53:57 PM

Can we stop focusing on all the reasons Clinton lost? Please? I'm sick of every other person coming in the thread and saying "we should have chosen Sanders". Guess what, we didnt, so it doesn't really matter.

It'd be a much smarter idea to focus on what we can do moving forward to make sure minorities and women don't lose our rights, or how we can fight back and elect better congressmen and women.

LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#153390: Nov 10th 2016 at 12:53:59 PM

How much of that is actually HRC's fault though?

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#153391: Nov 10th 2016 at 12:54:32 PM

Well, I'm sure the Dems will do a After-Action Report, and they'll probably follow it.

Trump is going to do a crapton of damage, but he and the Republicans aren't sustainable in the longterm.

[up]Probably her staffers' fault more than anything.

[up][up]Filibuster and obstruct their moves on civil rights, while letting them crash the economy and their popularity with it.

edited 10th Nov '16 12:55:59 PM by Rationalinsanity

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#153392: Nov 10th 2016 at 12:55:11 PM

Thunderfoot's base would drown their own homes and starve to death on the roof in a bid to get back at a girl who refused to be in the same room as they were.

In other words, even if he had the good sense of pointing out the sheer size of the anti-science platform the GOP has before the election, he would not be convincing his Patreon donors.

"Anyone but Hillary's team types": Unless you have had a working time machine in your garage this whole time, taking notes for your state Democratic Party might be more functional. If you're even in the US.

edited 10th Nov '16 12:56:13 PM by Krieger22

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#153393: Nov 10th 2016 at 12:56:25 PM

"Trump is going to do a crapton of damage, but he and the Republicans aren't sustainable in the longterm."

Ain't that the truth.

The 2020 map for them makes 2018 for the Dems look like a cakewalk.

We just have to hope Trump doesn't fuck us up TOO bad.

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vandro Shop Owner from The little shop that wasn't Since: Jul, 2009
Shop Owner
#153394: Nov 10th 2016 at 12:57:23 PM

It'd be a much smarter idea to focus on what we can do moving forward to make sure minorities and women don't lose our rights, or how we can fight back and elect better congressmen and women.

The first step to figuring out what to do next are the post-mortem of the election results. We need them for the 2018 midterm elections. For what it's worth, I don't think it was Hillary's fault, but rather the DNC aparatus in itself that needs revamp.

AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#153395: Nov 10th 2016 at 12:57:23 PM

[up][up][up]Well, he did that before the election, his fanbase tore itself apart over that.

edited 10th Nov '16 12:57:44 PM by AngelusNox

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#153396: Nov 10th 2016 at 12:59:03 PM

[up][up] It's becoming clear that the DNC's relationship with HRC was a lot like Stop Helping Me.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#153397: Nov 10th 2016 at 12:59:28 PM

Unconscious racists or not you can't just alienate white male voters and hope that minorities and women are enough to make it up.

I've mentioned this before but a big problem here is that Hillary got barely 50% of the white woman vote according to what someone posted earlier.

That 50% of the women who voted didn't think Trump's transparent misogyny was off-putting enough to avoid voting for him is depressing and tells me too many of them don't properly respect themselves or just hate nonwhite people that much that Trump treating them like meat doesn't matter.

edited 10th Nov '16 1:00:29 PM by Draghinazzo

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#153398: Nov 10th 2016 at 1:00:08 PM

If Trump's SCOTUS nominees get on the bench, is there any way to keep them from banning abortion, gay marriage, etc.?

I know previous courts weren't willing to overturn a predecessor's ruling, but I doubt his picks would care.

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#153399: Nov 10th 2016 at 1:04:09 PM

Also, in regards to what party Kanye would run under I'm inclined to think either as an independent or democrat. He's been outspoken about the mistreatment of the black community by the media and society at large in the past and no doubt he's aware of the hate crimes going on right now affecting black people right now. There's a lot of things you could criticize West for but I don't see him throwing his lot with the republicans because they've effectively become the party of white supremacists now more than ever.

I honestly don't want either scenario though, celebrities running for president is gonna turn things into a circus.

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#153400: Nov 10th 2016 at 1:04:13 PM

I'm not sure if it's been posted but the Dems made a second senate gain late last night, with New Hampshire being called for the Democrat candidate.

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