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nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#153226: Nov 10th 2016 at 9:16:43 AM

Then they needed to be oppressed harder. Oppression works eventually, but you have to take the boot, put it to their necks, and PRESS. Decent folk weren't hard enough on the deplorables. That needed to change starting yesterday.
........Guess You Are What You Hate got a new entry. Anyways, go ahead and pour gasoline on the fire while I figure out how to steer clear of the blaze.

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#153227: Nov 10th 2016 at 9:16:46 AM

I'm still confused over how Clinton won the popular vote, but Trump won the Electoral College and gets the president role. How the heck does that work? People actually voted for Clinton but the U.S.A went "Nah, I like Trump instead. Ignore my people."?

So, the electoral college has a certain number of delegates per state, which should be proportional to the population of the state (but no state can have less than 3 delegates). During the election, votes are counted per state, and the winner in each state gets all the delegates from that state*. So if you had just Texas (38 delegates), Florida (29 delegates) voting 50.1 to 49.9 for Trump, and California (55 delegates) voting 90-10 for Hillary, you'd end up with Trump getting 67 delegate votes to Hllary's 55, meaning he wins even though far less people voted for him. This is what happened here.

{=*=} Nebraska and Maine give one vote to the winner of each district and the rest of their votes to the winner.

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#153228: Nov 10th 2016 at 9:17:19 AM

[up]x6 So do I. I care about the effects of an actual Trump presidency, with Trump actually taking the reigns. At least with Pence being the power behind the throne, that's still more favorable to me than Trump. And yes, I believe that Pence would be a shitty defacto President. But not as shitty as Trump.

edited 10th Nov '16 9:17:42 AM by kkhohoho

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#153229: Nov 10th 2016 at 9:18:01 AM

You can bet my left nut that the Republicans are nuking Planned Parenthood from orbit. It's a wet dream of theirs.

edited 10th Nov '16 9:18:53 AM by hardcorefakes

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#153231: Nov 10th 2016 at 9:20:32 AM

Planned Parenthood actually is mostly safe.

WASHINGTON ― The Obama administration has proposed a new rule that would prevent states from defunding Planned Parenthood or any other family planning provider for political reasons.

The new rule, which the Department of Health and Human Services proposed last week, says that states cannot withhold Title X federal family planning money from certain recipients for any reason other than the provider’s “ability to deliver services to program beneficiaries in an effective manner.” That means states can no longer vote to defund Planned Parenthood because some of its clinics offer abortion services.

“This will make a real difference in so many people’s lives,” said Cecile Richards, president of Planned Parenthood. “Thanks to the Obama administration, women will still be able to access the birth control they need to plan their families, and the cancer screenings they need to stay healthy.”

The Title X program provides basic preventive health care and family planning services for 4 million low-income Americans. About 85 percent of patients who use Title X have incomes below $23,500. Planned Parenthood serves about a third of those patients, using the $70 million a year it receives in Title X grants to subsidize contraceptives and cancer and sexually transmitted infection screenings for people who can’t afford them. Title X does not allow any money to be used to pay for abortions for any reason.

Still, politicians in 11 states have voted to block public funds from Planned Parenthood because its services include abortion. Republicans in Congress are also on a mission to defund the family planning provider, citing a series of debunked undercover videos produced by anti-abortion activists that purport to show Planned Parenthood selling fetal body parts.

Rep. Diane Black (R-Tenn.), a member of the House select committee that’s investigating the video’s claims, called the Obama administration’s new rule to protect Planned Parenthood a “stunt.”

“We must use the full force of Congress and the grassroots strength of the national pro-life movement to defeat this absurd rule and prevent the Obama Administration from acting unilaterally to carry out political favors and prop up a scandal-ridden abortion provider,” she said in a statement.

The political problem for Republicans right now in their endeavor to demonize and defund Planned Parenthood is that family planning providers are on the front lines in the fight against Zika, the rapidly spreading virus that causes severe birth defects. The Centers for Disease Control said the “primary strategy” to reduce Zika-related pregnancy complications should be to help women avoid or delay pregnancy through family planning and birth control, and Planned Parenthood is already distributing Zika prevention kits and education in neighborhoods where the virus is spreading. But some of the most high-risk states for the mosquito-borne and sexually transmitted virus ― Florida, Louisiana and Texas ― have voted to block funds to Planned Parenthood. About 84 pregnant women in Florida are currently infected with Zika, officials have said.

If the new Title X rule becomes permanent after a 30-day public comment period, which is likely, those states will be forced to back down from the fight against the nation’s largest family planning provider.

“This rule makes it clear that politicians cannot ignore the law as they pursue their agenda to stop women from getting the care they need,” Richards said.

Of course, the question is whether sidestepping or outright violating GOP pushed laws will sink them anyway...

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#153232: Nov 10th 2016 at 9:20:37 AM

Ew. That sounds like something I would do it I had to destroy a country.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#153233: Nov 10th 2016 at 9:21:06 AM

Bolton as Sec of State? The rest of the planet might as well treat the US like a goddamn leper colony.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#153234: Nov 10th 2016 at 9:21:52 AM

Thing is Pence will only kill people via repealing Obamacare, LGBT torture camps and war with Iran, with full sociopath Trump you're looking at multiple wars, opposition being arrested, the collapse of NATO, mass kills of Hispanics and the ever present possibility of Trump launching a nuke due to not understanding that actions have consequences.

edited 10th Nov '16 9:28:49 AM by Silasw

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#153235: Nov 10th 2016 at 9:23:38 AM

Would it be better if they got one of the other Boltons instead?

edited 10th Nov '16 9:23:55 AM by IFwanderer

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#153236: Nov 10th 2016 at 9:24:21 AM

@Odder: If anything, Trump is slightly pro LGBT leaning (he made a point of tha several times on the campaign trail) but perfectly willing to throw them under the bus for his own gain.

I suspect he's like that and a lot of other issues, which is a small silver lining to a Trump presidency; he's not even pretending to be loyal to the conservative ideology, and if the Democrats retake Congress in the midterms I think there's a decent chance he'd readily work with them.

edited 10th Nov '16 9:26:56 AM by CaptainCapsase

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#153237: Nov 10th 2016 at 9:24:30 AM

Bolton senior wouldn't kill the world out of spite.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#153238: Nov 10th 2016 at 9:27:15 AM

[up][up]HOPE for little CHANGE. Now the Democrats are the literal conservatives, fighting to keep what's here.

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megarockman from The Sixth Borough (Experienced Trainee)
#153239: Nov 10th 2016 at 9:27:55 AM

[up][up][up]I would think Pence and co would "take away his Twitter privileges" in that scenario.

edited 10th Nov '16 9:28:10 AM by megarockman

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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#153240: Nov 10th 2016 at 9:29:01 AM

Ideologically some republicans might still qualify as conservatives but the party as a whole, with Trump can't really be called that anymore. They're reactionaries, plain and simple.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#153241: Nov 10th 2016 at 9:29:27 AM

@Trump's Cabinet list: about what I expected then: half crazy, one quarter rewarding political allies, and one quarter GOP establishment with a fair amount of crossover between the latter two columns.

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#153242: Nov 10th 2016 at 9:29:30 AM

If they can.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#153243: Nov 10th 2016 at 9:31:26 AM

If it weren't for the fact that this is real life and not South Park, Ben Carson having a cabinet position sounds absolutely hilarious.

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#153244: Nov 10th 2016 at 9:31:29 AM

It's really hard to predict, since Trump has never held any sort of political office before, so how he'll behave in that position is something even he probably isn't certain about. Well, given it's Trump, he probably feels certain about how he'll handle the presidency, but that's not the same thing.

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#153245: Nov 10th 2016 at 9:32:27 AM

Idle thought: I wonder if Trump could be baited into supporting progressive policies. Like, what would he do if he started seeing claims of, "Too bad about Obama's awesome ACA, right? That was a good policy. Trump's not man enough to come up with a policy even half as cohesive as Obama did. It takes a real leader to bring us closer to universal health care and Trump is sorely unfit for that job. It's because of his tiny hands."

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nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#153246: Nov 10th 2016 at 9:32:45 AM

How reliable is Buzzfeed's list?

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#153247: Nov 10th 2016 at 9:35:01 AM

Trump's already been invited to Canada, Trudeau is hoping to avoid mutually destructive trade disputes.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-trump-visit-canada-1.3845013

The protests are going to be pretty massive when he shows up in Ottawa.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#153248: Nov 10th 2016 at 9:35:06 AM

So, how likely is it that Trump will be able to get rid of gay marriage? I'm afraid I won't ever get the chance to get married...
Very unlikely. He couldn't touch it even if he wanted to.

First off the president can't overturn supreme court rulings, and the supreme court takes overturning previous rulings VERY seriously. They don't make decisions based on politics, but based on law. It's not something that happens just on the whim of so-and-so because they support it politically.

Someone needs to come forward with a new case, with new evidence, or it will just get the same result as before. While that could happen it's highly doubtful IMO that it will.

edited 10th Nov '16 9:38:48 AM by xanderiskander

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#153249: Nov 10th 2016 at 9:36:30 AM

Anyone know much about Donald Trump's picks for secretary of defense? Michael Flynn is definitely in favor of a Russo-American thaw, but what about the others?

If most or all of them are, I think we can be pretty certain we're in for a potentially major shift in American geopolitical strategy.

@Rational: please don't start World War III by assassinating him.

edited 10th Nov '16 9:37:28 AM by CaptainCapsase

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#153250: Nov 10th 2016 at 9:40:21 AM

Idle thought: I wonder if Trump could be baited into supporting progressive policies. Like, what would he do if he started seeing claims of, "Too bad about Obama's awesome ACA, right? That was a good policy. Trump's not man enough to come up with a policy even half as cohesive as Obama did. It takes a real leader to bring us closer to universal health care and Trump is sorely unfit for that job. It's because of his tiny hands."

That'd be pretty hilarious but even in this bizarre scenario I think the rest of the GOP establishment would be tying his hands on that.


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