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Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#152276: Nov 9th 2016 at 9:57:27 AM

[up][up][up]Youth vote? Most probably. They don't hold much traction in the older demographics.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#152277: Nov 9th 2016 at 9:58:02 AM

But they are the NEXT older demographic.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#152278: Nov 9th 2016 at 9:59:19 AM

If only the US had a direct election system.

Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% Scandinavian
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#152279: Nov 9th 2016 at 9:59:42 AM

If they actually bother to vote that is....

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#152280: Nov 9th 2016 at 9:59:45 AM

My hope is that today's more self-aware public and the internet won't take this lying down and we can vote to stop the government from ripping apart what the Democrats have struggled to reform. We can't go backwards now.

I can't stand to see all the good things the country's managed to work out over the last few years be torn apart by reductionist government.

If independents would've voted Democrat, this could've been averted perhaps. Not saying people don't have a right to not support a leader they don't care for, but a lesser evil is still a lesser evil. The enemy of my enemy, and so on.

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#152281: Nov 9th 2016 at 10:00:35 AM

[up][up][up][up]Well, poll data suggests the rest of the youth demographic still tends Democrat.

Now, if the Democrats/alt-left could please just stop imitating this:

Yelling that you were 300% Bernie after the dust settles does not provide answers.

edited 9th Nov '16 10:01:29 AM by Krieger22

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#152282: Nov 9th 2016 at 10:00:36 AM

Currently the Internet looks to me more like a pit of misinformation....

InsomniacWeasel O Sleepless Mustelid from Petah Tikvah, Israel Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
O Sleepless Mustelid
#152283: Nov 9th 2016 at 10:00:40 AM

I wonder what this means for Israel. Our government's quite optimistic.

"We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried. Most people were silent."
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#152284: Nov 9th 2016 at 10:01:15 AM

Most important election in the US since 1860, and turnout was STILL down by a couple million and less than 50%.

Why the fuck would you stay home on yesterday if ALL days?!

New Survey coming this weekend!
NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#152285: Nov 9th 2016 at 10:01:49 AM

May I ask who are "they" exactly?

The GOP base. Who else would I have said?

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#152286: Nov 9th 2016 at 10:02:16 AM

Optimistic for Trump? Trump is the poster boy for the infidel American that extremists cells paint a picture of to recruit angry young men with.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
Antiteilchen In the pursuit of great, we failed to do good. Since: Sep, 2013
In the pursuit of great, we failed to do good.
#152287: Nov 9th 2016 at 10:02:51 AM

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."

So much for that quote. It came openly racist and gropping pussies.

Lennik (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#152288: Nov 9th 2016 at 10:03:38 AM

I have every reason to panic. I'm a diabetic with insurance through the workplace, and after Trump repeals Obamacare, there won't be anything stopping insurance companies from refusing to cover me because it's a preexisting condition. I could very well not survive the first year of his presidency.

That's right, boys. Mondo cool.
Grounder Main Character Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: All is for my lord
Main Character
#152289: Nov 9th 2016 at 10:04:11 AM

Why the fuck would you stay home on yesterday if ALL days?!

Apathy towards the candidates.

edited 9th Nov '16 10:04:51 AM by Grounder

Karkadinn Karkadinn from New Orleans, Louisiana Since: Jul, 2009
Karkadinn
#152290: Nov 9th 2016 at 10:04:16 AM

The kind of people who wouldn't vote for a 'socialist' based on that name tag are the same kind of people who would never have voted for Clinton in the first place. We win elections in the modern day by getting the would-be base enthusiastic by making them feel like their politicians represent their interests, not by swinging theoretically undecided voters who are bouncing between two identity extremes like ping pong balls. Upsetting people who hate you already literally doesn't matter, just look around you and see how much Trump cares about how much you hate him. If your solution to people not wanting to vote for you is to trash talk either them or the other guy, your campaign is dead and done.

The idea that the Democrats need to compromise and swing further towards rightwing policy, that that is why they lost, is probably the single most destructive response I could think of in the wake of this disaster. It's absolutely the leftwing equivalent of the GOP's well-publicized decision to ignore their own autopsy report's findings and double-down on things that were already hurting their party. Don't tell the Democrats to stick with SOP when those operating procedures just lost them every single branch of the governmental tree.

Furthermore, I think Guantanamo must be destroyed.
randomdude4 Since: May, 2011
#152291: Nov 9th 2016 at 10:05:31 AM

Trump is not my president, and he never will be my president. I don't care; the man is the antithesis of everything I believe in, as a man, as a Catholic, and as a U.S. citizen.

"Can't make an omelette without breaking some children." -Bur
Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#152292: Nov 9th 2016 at 10:06:19 AM

Sadly, the Trump campaign tactics succeeded on both sides of the Pond.

I have to admit that part of me is (morbidly) curious to see how Trump handles a presidency because it will not be anything like running a business and several of his interviews indicated he doesn't have a clue how either governments or reality seem to work. I guess we'll get see how much of the real work gets done by Pence.

One thing we've been curious about over here - he was recently found guilty of illegal labour practices, wasn't he? And he's got both sexual harassment cases and fraud cases coming up?

How does that work when the person being taken to court is a president or president-elect?

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#152293: Nov 9th 2016 at 10:06:21 AM

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." So much for that quote. It came openly racist and gropping pussies.

I think I've found a new signature.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
Bense Since: Aug, 2010
#152294: Nov 9th 2016 at 10:07:19 AM

As someone living in a state with only around 3 million people, I thank God every election for the Electoral College. Otherwise my vote would be even more meaningless. True, it's not very significant as it is, but this time my state (Utah) did get quite a bit more focus from the candidates than last time. It helped that we are a conservative state but were so obviously anti-Trump.

Turns out most of us were more afraid of Hillary than disapproving of Trump, apparently.

edited 9th Nov '16 10:08:31 AM by Bense

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#152295: Nov 9th 2016 at 10:08:17 AM

Like it or not, he's the President America elected. We're going to have to make peace with that.

Best thing we can do now is work on reclaiming the more local branches of gov't such as state legislatures.

Disgusted, but not surprised
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#152296: Nov 9th 2016 at 10:08:24 AM

I mean, Hillary was good at making Trump look dumb. Bernie would have been too. Anyone would have really. Not difficult.

Trump's success with Hillary was in calling her corrupt and dishonest. And bringing up scandal after scandal.

Like, not a lot of voters have said a damned thing about Hillary's economic policies. That does not seem to have been the issue with anyone but the people who were already on the right. And even some right-wingers expressed a preference for Bernie over Hillary early on, because of how much they disliked her to begin with.

The republican media did a good job of making people dislike her.

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#152297: Nov 9th 2016 at 10:08:56 AM

[up][up][up][up][up]Well, it appears that courtesy of the GOP's tries at Bill Clinton, a President can indeed be made to defend a civil suit.

I doubt that there is actually something sufficiently abhorrent that can be done to result in an instant ejection from the Presidency, though. Best to pick some other tactic.

edited 9th Nov '16 10:09:27 AM by Krieger22

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#152298: Nov 9th 2016 at 10:09:03 AM

One of Clinton's problems was that she didn't have an overall objective / message to send, beyond just heckling the opposition. Trump did his share of mudslinging too, but he had a message. "The establishment is rotten, and I can change it". It doesn't matter that he won't. Obama didn't keep all his original promises either, but it was his message that won.

edited 9th Nov '16 10:11:16 AM by xanderiskander

PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#152299: Nov 9th 2016 at 10:10:36 AM

Clinton's message was "Stronger Together", but it didn't really resonate with people the way that "Change", "Yes We Can", or even "make America Great Again" did.

i'm tired, my friend
AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#152300: Nov 9th 2016 at 10:11:45 AM

Clinton's message was one of continued progressivism in the Obama mold.


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