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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#152151: Nov 9th 2016 at 7:53:55 AM

To those who think that we are panicking too much when it comes to Trump...I recommend the excellent the Closer vids of Keith Olbermann. He really has a knack of extracting from all the posturing Trump does the truly important news hidden within, his attacks on the American democracy as well as the underlying dangers of what he proposes.

[up][up] You didn't need Wiki Leaks to have something on Trump, you only had to look. And there is no way that there isn't even more dirt on him....I don't believe for one second that Wiki Leaks didn't do its part to influence the election. Just like the FBI did.

edited 9th Nov '16 7:55:25 AM by Swanpride

thatguythere47 Since: Jul, 2010
#152152: Nov 9th 2016 at 7:54:43 AM

@conspiracy: I resent the implication, because quite frankly I am all about the data and the data is insane. Every model, every projection, every single poll was wrong and Donald trump was right. He has been saying since he got the nomination that he would get out the uneducated and angry white vote in record numbers and he did.

Is using "Julian Assange is a Hillary butt plug" an acceptable signature quote?
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#152153: Nov 9th 2016 at 7:55:06 AM

Given the amount of fascist overtones his campaign had? Yeah, I'm not calling the Hitler references a slippery slope just yet.

Comey: I wonder if he really had the foreknowledge that his little "revelation" would turn the tide enough for him to evade the Hatch Act.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
singularityshot Since: Dec, 2012
#152154: Nov 9th 2016 at 7:55:39 AM

Simple majority to get rid of the filibuster. A supermajority is what is needed to end a filibuster if one is attempted under the current rules - ergo, if they had a supermajority they wouldn't talk about getting rid of the filibuster because they already have the means to defeat it.

I'm fairly convinced this is correct, because the Democrats got rid of the filibuster for lower court justices after a session of pure obstructionism from the Republicans after the Democrats lost their supermajority.

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#152155: Nov 9th 2016 at 7:55:55 AM

Someone please tell me that I've only been having a nightmarish daydream in which Trump won the presidency. Or that the current results aren't final; I distinctly remember it was said yesterday that today's results is just exit polling, with the final count possibly taking a few days to finish.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#152156: Nov 9th 2016 at 7:56:28 AM

Trump only has four years to deliver on his promises of jobs and prosperity. If he fails on that, the Rust Belt is going to turn on his just like they did on the Democrats.

Reflextion from a post-sanity world (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
#152157: Nov 9th 2016 at 7:56:41 AM

EDIT: self-thumped for being unnecessarily rude

edited 9th Nov '16 8:04:48 AM by Reflextion

Someone did tell me life was going to be this way.
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#152158: Nov 9th 2016 at 7:56:58 AM

Nah, it's over. Hillary already conceded.

Trump only has four years to deliver on his promises of jobs and prosperity. If he fails on that, the Rust Belt is going to turn on his just like they did on the Democrats.

If that's true that's a silver lining because Trump isn't doing shit for them.

edited 9th Nov '16 7:58:00 AM by Draghinazzo

Cronosonic (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#152159: Nov 9th 2016 at 7:57:20 AM

[up][up][up] And considering his actual policies? He's not gonna be able to do that.

edited 9th Nov '16 7:57:38 AM by Cronosonic

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#152160: Nov 9th 2016 at 7:58:15 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQueaSlvjCw&index=39&list=PL0hKMB1-xkc_5ES_PEDgr8VjMpQ5haPD6

To make it a little bit easier to find the information, since nowadays some people seem to be unable to do proper research on their own....the first one is especially good, because it listed all the lies Trump told during his campaign. But the later ones he did concerning his plans to deport countless people as well as his reaction to the FBI stunt is pretty good, too.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#152161: Nov 9th 2016 at 7:58:54 AM

Trump has two years to avoid totally screwing up. If he loses control of Congress maybe the Dems can prevent America from bleeding out,

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#152162: Nov 9th 2016 at 7:59:11 AM

Policies aside I don't think Republicans actually care that much about the whole jobs and prosperity thing, or at least taking the correct measures to ensure it happens.

So basically they've fucked themselves.

edited 9th Nov '16 8:00:15 AM by Draghinazzo

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#152163: Nov 9th 2016 at 8:00:50 AM

A "slippery slope" implies inevitabilty.

We didn't "slip".

We as Americans made a fucking choice. This is what we chose. If we are capable of this, we are capable of the next step.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#152164: Nov 9th 2016 at 8:03:43 AM

Trump only has four years to deliver on his promises of jobs and prosperity. If he fails on that, the Rust Belt is going to turn on his just like they did on the Democrats.

They already drank the Kool-Aid. They're not gonna turn on him. Remember, Trump is held to a much lower standard than any other politician we ever seen.

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#152165: Nov 9th 2016 at 8:05:44 AM

If my thinking is correct, Trump will actually only have 2 years, because there is no way the Republican Super-Majority is going to last longer then 2018. As long as Ginsburg can also survive those 2 years, then the Supreme Court should also be safe (albeit still leaning Conservative).

Also, I'm not going to call Trump Hitler or Mussolini yet, despite how he campaigned. We'll have to see how he governs before we can claim that. I'm more worried about the Alt-Right and Klansmen he empowered then I am about Trump.

thatguythere47 Since: Jul, 2010
#152166: Nov 9th 2016 at 8:05:51 AM

And the 2018 map doesn't look so good. We'd need an Iraq war level unpopular move to see the democrats keep the senate from being a super majority.

Is using "Julian Assange is a Hillary butt plug" an acceptable signature quote?
blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#152167: Nov 9th 2016 at 8:06:50 AM

To be frank I don't want to wait to see how he governs. He's an entitled tantrum thrower. How do you think he's going to rule?

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#152168: Nov 9th 2016 at 8:07:47 AM

Yeah, Trump needs to screw up clearly and quickly for the Democrats to have a prayer in two years.

Guess its time for America to turn in its liberal democracy card.

edited 9th Nov '16 8:08:27 AM by Rationalinsanity

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#152169: Nov 9th 2016 at 8:09:33 AM

Hey, Capspace has filed an appeal in the banned thread! We'll be seeing more of them soon.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
Gowan Since: Jan, 2013
#152171: Nov 9th 2016 at 8:10:17 AM

I don't think Trump intends to hand power over to someone else in four years.

As I don't live in America, I would be rather relieved if he just ruined America, to be honest. I worry that he has plans for world domination.

He apparently plans to ruin the climate, but I hope he can't do much worse than the US has already been doing. Sometimes I wish some tropes were something one could count on in real life.

edited 9th Nov '16 8:11:38 AM by Gowan

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#152172: Nov 9th 2016 at 8:10:43 AM

Trump is not a normal politician. He's cult leader.

They won't abandon him.

Karkadinn Karkadinn from New Orleans, Louisiana Since: Jul, 2009
Karkadinn
#152173: Nov 9th 2016 at 8:10:51 AM

@Hodor 2: Developing a new game plan doesn't have to mean giving up on hitting the same goals at the end of the field. Right now, one of the lessons I'm seeing from this incredibly blatant failure of the Democrats is that you can't sell liberal policies to white people on the basis of negative reinforcement-based identity politics. With Occupy, with Sanders, with Warren, we're seeing again and again desire by millennials to reframe the political conversation in terms of finance and economics. And that doesn't have to mean ABANDONING pro-minority legislation, that just means you have to describe and push the agenda in a way that looks good to everyone instead of using the negative reinforcement of -ism accusations (even, and this is important, if they're true). Carrot over stick.

If there's anything we have to learn from this election, it's that what your actual platforms or legislative goals are as a politician don't matter NEARLY as much as how you say them.

Furthermore, I think Guantanamo must be destroyed.
blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#152174: Nov 9th 2016 at 8:12:52 AM

anyone else watching the Global Terrorism Thread? I highly anticipate a swelling in the ranks of extremists and would-be caliphates in the Middle East and West Asia.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
mrstack345 Paranormal Activity VII from Subspace Since: May, 2015 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Paranormal Activity VII
#152175: Nov 9th 2016 at 8:13:01 AM

With regards to Trump, given how people are negatively reacting to his win, I personally think that at the very least voter turnout will swing to the Democrats next time around. Anger got him to the position he's in right now, anger towards the idea of him being President can likely get him out in 2020. They just need to pick the right candidate for the job that time around.

Your works are one trope short.

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