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megarockman from The Sixth Borough (Experienced Trainee)
#151976: Nov 9th 2016 at 6:26:31 AM

That will require making sure it is known to those who voted for him what he's done/failed to deliver (for real, mind you - I will not stoop to the Republicans' level of making shit up).

The damned queen and the relentless knight.
Gentlecoldafterdusk Since: Apr, 2016
#151977: Nov 9th 2016 at 6:27:10 AM

I'm just curious. Does that mean that: 1)Women's education and right to vote will be banned? 2)Blacks will become slaves again, like they were before Lincoln? 3)Same-sex marriage will be banned again, and LGBT people will be forcedly put in asylums and/or decapitated? 4)Being an atheist will become a federal crime? I'm not from America and I don't know your realities, so please, don't think that I'm mocking or having fun. I'm really curious and I'd like a serious answer. Thanks.

Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#151978: Nov 9th 2016 at 6:28:03 AM

Well, considering that he literally promised to fix everything on the first day of his presidency, you won't be waiting long to see a failure.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#151979: Nov 9th 2016 at 6:28:04 AM

So I guess one thing we need to question is who we have left? Hillary was a major fixture of the Democrats but there's no way she can run again. Bernie and Warren are old and one of the other primary candidates are fit candidates. I guess there's Kaine but I doubt he'd do much better since he'll be associated with Hillary. Who runs in 2020? Who can stop this guy?

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Screaming Into The Void
#151980: Nov 9th 2016 at 6:28:10 AM

Question: exactly what steps does the US government and Supreme Court need to take to overturn Roe v. Wade and Obergefell v. Hodges? How likely is it?

I mean, they're probably going to enact legislation that will make getting abortions extremely difficult, and curtail LGBTQ rights, so even if they can't overturn those decisions they can effectively make people's lives hell, right?

Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#151981: Nov 9th 2016 at 6:30:14 AM

Stuff like that needs to be re-examined by the Supreme Court, which means that it has to get back up to it in a court case. The thing about the Supreme Court is that if Trump misjudged, like if he picks his cousin (who hates him) the selected justice actually has no obligation to line up with him. They have the job for life, no matter what.

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#151982: Nov 9th 2016 at 6:30:20 AM

Anyway, all I can say at this point is that I hope everyone who voted Trump really comes to regret it in the coming months/years.

I think many of them will but it's also gonna depend on the degree of bad that will result.

Other people will just find something else to blame besides him though. Finding a scapegoat is the reason they elected him in the first place.

megarockman from The Sixth Borough (Experienced Trainee)
#151983: Nov 9th 2016 at 6:30:36 AM

Kostya - how old is Biden?

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#151984: Nov 9th 2016 at 6:31:28 AM

Well, at least the tired old chestnut of "American Exceptionalism" is finally done. It's time for another country to step up.

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Eschaton Since: Jul, 2010
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#151986: Nov 9th 2016 at 6:32:24 AM

Would we lose anything by stooping to the same filibuster-happy tactics Republicans used to hinder the Obama Presidency?

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#151987: Nov 9th 2016 at 6:32:54 AM

Welp. I did not see that coming. I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess the general feel here is unfavorable towards the result.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#151988: Nov 9th 2016 at 6:33:07 AM

And hey, Trump's win proved that you don't need a ton of manpower or corporate money to win a campaign. You just need the right message.

Edit: [up][up]Given that the Democratic Party's whole thing is now "we're not as crazy as the GOP"...

edited 9th Nov '16 6:34:01 AM by M84

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Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#151989: Nov 9th 2016 at 6:33:23 AM

It won't work in the House, but the Senate hasn't used the nuclear option. The problem is that they might.

[up] Or a fucking disgusting message and people willing to overlook the myriad flaws in the worst major presidential candidate in history.

edited 9th Nov '16 6:34:21 AM by Zendervai

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#151990: Nov 9th 2016 at 6:33:34 AM

They'd lose credibility. The Democrats had two things going for them: Promises of leveling the playing field, and an attempt to run the country with better tactics than plugging up their ears and going "Na na na I can't hear you!"

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#151991: Nov 9th 2016 at 6:33:45 AM

[up]x5 They could use the nuclear option and get rid of the filibuster altogether and we will literally be up shit creek without even a boat.

edited 9th Nov '16 6:34:07 AM by Memers

Eschaton Since: Jul, 2010
#151992: Nov 9th 2016 at 6:34:01 AM

[up][up][up][up]I always thought people were overplaying his lack of "ground game." Because he did have a get-out-the-vote machine.

It's called a fucking television.

And if they're hooked on Fox News, all the better. Because they ain't goin' anywhere else.

edited 9th Nov '16 6:35:05 AM by Eschaton

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The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#151993: Nov 9th 2016 at 6:34:14 AM

He won because he knew us. He knew our darkness.

And instead of being ashamed of it, or repressing it, he glorified it.

And now it shall consume us.

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#151994: Nov 9th 2016 at 6:34:17 AM

@151955: The first half of 3 is possible. None of the others.

edited 9th Nov '16 6:35:25 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#151995: Nov 9th 2016 at 6:34:29 AM

[up]x3 And social media.

edited 9th Nov '16 6:34:44 AM by M84

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#151996: Nov 9th 2016 at 6:35:12 AM

As I understand it, the electoral college hasn't actually voted yet. This election just informs them of who the people want them to vote for.

Is there any chance of an electoral fiat when the college comes together?

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#151997: Nov 9th 2016 at 6:35:45 AM

[up] No. Too many GOP electors would have to be Never Trump.

edited 9th Nov '16 6:36:28 AM by M84

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blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#151998: Nov 9th 2016 at 6:36:38 AM

"The Nuclear option" requires a 2/3 majority, which thankfully, I believe neither the House nor Senate has.

How many among the Red congressmen would be willing to play ball or swing their votes?

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
megarockman from The Sixth Borough (Experienced Trainee)
#151999: Nov 9th 2016 at 6:36:40 AM

Only if enough electors are willing to risk their lives to angry mobs.

The damned queen and the relentless knight.
Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#152000: Nov 9th 2016 at 6:37:02 AM

[up][up][up][up] Maybe if Trump went 'Hiel Hitler' in his victory speech but now no.

edited 9th Nov '16 6:37:27 AM by Memers


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