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MAI742 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I-It's not like I like you, or anything!
#151901: Nov 9th 2016 at 5:25:09 AM

You guys are great. I'm sorry we live in these times, and that you live there.

I'd like to reassure you that if the unthinkable happened, then the quantity and quality of specialists, funds, and tools forthcoming from your friends overseas might surprise you.

Even if the provision of the same by foreign actors who stood to gain from the end of American democracy, or simply prolonging the situation, would not.

edited 9th Nov '16 5:27:32 AM by MAI742

Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest. — Mark Twain
Pseudopartition Screaming Into The Void from The Cretaeceous Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Screaming Into The Void
#151902: Nov 9th 2016 at 5:26:22 AM

Now that the exit polls are out, can we stop saying that poor people got Trump elected? More people with an income of under 50,000 voted for Clinton. Rural voters did skew Trump, but obviously a number of them have pretty high incomes.

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#151903: Nov 9th 2016 at 5:26:34 AM

About #Never Trumpers: Kasich will do a speech tomorrow, let's see what he does.

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#151904: Nov 9th 2016 at 5:28:01 AM

The US will definitely fight Iran

Human rights in the US will be rolled back.

And humanity is even more certainty fucked from climate change.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Pseudopartition Screaming Into The Void from The Cretaeceous Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Screaming Into The Void
#151905: Nov 9th 2016 at 5:31:04 AM

To be honest, I don't really know how much hope I ever had on the climate front. In ten years, I've seen an awful lot of promises and very little action. Humanity simply doesn't want to accept the large scale changes that would needed. I'm going to keep trying, though.

As far as more extreme stuff like full dictator mode, concentration camps, media censorship, or even nuclear war etc I think it's possible but am not sure that things are going to go that far.
I never thought things would go this far. Now I have no idea what to think...

PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#151906: Nov 9th 2016 at 5:31:07 AM

I'd like to reassure you that if the unthinkable happened, then the quantity and quality of specialists, funds, and tools forthcoming from your friends overseas

We're not gonna have any friends overseas left in not too long

i'm tired, my friend
NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#151907: Nov 9th 2016 at 5:31:25 AM

Now that the exit polls are out, can we stop saying that poor people got Trump elected? More people with an income of under 50,000 voted for Clinton. Rural voters did skew Trump, but obviously a number of them have pretty high incomes.

Then that's even worse. Instead of it now being a final desperation attempt from the lower class, it's now the middle class who decided to screw themselves because.... they want to hate or something?

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#151908: Nov 9th 2016 at 5:32:39 AM

Honestly, I've suspected that the election was rigged in Trump's favor for a while now.
......Wait. Wut?

Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#151909: Nov 9th 2016 at 5:32:44 AM

Who else is up for an armed revolt?

edited 9th Nov '16 5:34:52 AM by Kaiseror

pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Cape Malleum Majorem
#151910: Nov 9th 2016 at 5:33:55 AM

I predict massive sales of "Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Hillary" tee shirts and buttons and stuff.

This Space Intentionally Left Blank.
PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#151911: Nov 9th 2016 at 5:34:08 AM

They want to hate because they feel squeezed by a vice themselves and see no future for themselves or their kids in Suburbia, and Trump promised a possibility of future, where they'd be able to score in what is viewed by many as a zero sum game.

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#151912: Nov 9th 2016 at 5:34:10 AM

Then that's even worse. Instead of it now being a final desperation attempt from the lower class, it's now the middle class who decided to screw themselves because.... they want to hate or something?

That seems about right, yes.

Fear over reason.

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#151913: Nov 9th 2016 at 5:34:16 AM

[up][up][up][up] Dude don't do that

Not here.

edited 9th Nov '16 5:34:32 AM by blkwhtrbbt

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#151916: Nov 9th 2016 at 5:34:58 AM

Trump would have to probably violate the law in an enormous way in order to get impeached. Don't know how, but he would have to.

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#151917: Nov 9th 2016 at 5:35:14 AM

Doubt you could overpower the amount of guns the people who voted Trump have.

edited 9th Nov '16 5:35:30 AM by hardcorefakes

ewolf2015 MIA from south Carolina Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I-It's not like I like you, or anything!
MIA
#151918: Nov 9th 2016 at 5:35:18 AM

will a revolution come into order?

MIA
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#151919: Nov 9th 2016 at 5:37:02 AM

So, apparently popular opinion in Canada doesn't favor fleeing Americans.

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/news/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadian-politics/yankee-stay-home-clinton-loving-canadians-in-no-mood-to-help-trump-averse-americans-move-here&pubdate=2016-11-09

The True North will almost certainly see an uptink in anti American sentiment. Along with the rest of the world.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#151920: Nov 9th 2016 at 5:37:52 AM

So is this a good opportunity to get rid of the electoral college? Apparently Clinton won the popular vote.

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#151921: Nov 9th 2016 at 5:37:52 AM

Is it just me, or are you folks starting to sound like certain corners of Reddit?

neoYTPism Since: May, 2010
#151922: Nov 9th 2016 at 5:38:14 AM

Remember how TV Tropes used to be criticized for allowing racist posts, but not allowing people to be too harsh when calling out said racist posts? Remember how resistive tropers were to that criticism of this site?

Yeah, for a while I thought it was one of the more flawed criticisms too, but in hindsight, I think that is our precursor to the "deplorables" controvery.

IndirectActiveTransport plays capoeira from Chicago (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Every rose has its thorn
plays capoeira
#151923: Nov 9th 2016 at 5:39:01 AM

I said I wasn't going to get angry if Donald Trump won. I did more than I ever have to support Democrats, despite hating politicians, but now I kind of am because I realized, after voting, that my efforts were misdirected.

Get the vote out? To friends? Family, neighbors, the places I shop? Should have got the vote out in the work place. It turns out the one talking most consistently about the election is the only one(besides myself) voting. That the reason no one reacted to my completely non controversial comments on voting to fix roads is because none of them even knew the ballot, not because I'm a socially awkward person who can't start a conversation, although I have learned I am bad at reading people.

I said I wasn't going to be up all night checking election results, but I remembered I had some purchases I had to download tonight or lose, because of "file sharing" protection and foolishly decided to clear out my email while they finished. Should have read a book.

But I'll take opportunity where I can get it. We've got a President who attacked a religious group as part of his campaign platform. It shouldn't be too hard to turn that from people(Muslims), to religion(Islam), to proselytizing religion (which includes Christianity). He's laid the grounds for getting religion out of the legislative process, for a truer separation of church and state, should we move carefully from this set precedent.

Since we do have a republican majority in the federal government, it should be easier to remove, or at least reign in the proselytizing leftist extremists in the public colleges and universities. And if we can steer public perception of religion to a more appropriate place we won't have to worry about proselytizing rightist extremists taking their places.

It's not ideal for me. I'd rather be talking less about religion than more, and I know those public institutes of higher learning are likely to lose funding while tuition continues to increase, but there are these and other opportunities all the same.

edited 9th Nov '16 5:40:03 AM by IndirectActiveTransport

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thatguythere47 Since: Jul, 2010
#151924: Nov 9th 2016 at 5:39:06 AM

Pierre Trudeau summed up canada's feelings on america way back in the day "Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt."

Is using "Julian Assange is a Hillary butt plug" an acceptable signature quote?
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#151925: Nov 9th 2016 at 5:41:31 AM

Indirect: What? I... at what point was that any part of his campaign? At what point can you think it's a good idea to silence voices in universities and colleges? At what point do you think that's a thing that can happen uniformly across the country in any practical way? I mean seriously, "ending proselytizing voices" in college? The places where people are there to learn? And... how? Seriously, just how on a practical level?

Dude panders to the religious, but I don't think he actually gives a shit about that sort of thing. Now. Pence. Eeesh.

edited 9th Nov '16 5:42:09 AM by AceofSpades


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