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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#151676: Nov 9th 2016 at 2:15:24 AM

... OK, I need to take a break from this new insanity you just sprung on me before I say something I may really regret. I'm already struggling to cope with the insanity that is the impending Trump presidency, thank you very much.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#151677: Nov 9th 2016 at 2:15:34 AM

I suppose arguably you could try to fit it into the "fighting words" or "fire in a crowded theater" exceptions.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#151679: Nov 9th 2016 at 2:16:23 AM

[up][up][up] And now you understand one of the major reasons Trump won the election.

edited 9th Nov '16 2:16:36 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#151680: Nov 9th 2016 at 2:17:20 AM

OH MY GOD; MY PARENTS ARE GARDENIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#151681: Nov 9th 2016 at 2:17:22 AM

Honestly, Germany being the last bastion of sanity in the world is a twist I bet nobody saw coming 70 years ago....I can just hope that we won't f... that up in our own next election, and that France somehow manages to repel its own ultra-right wing party. Than we have a chance that at least the EU will stay calm in all this, despite the trouble brewing in Poland, Hungary and Austria.

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#151682: Nov 9th 2016 at 2:18:23 AM

If you're going to ignore them, then you have to suppress them, or they will make their feelings known at the ballot box.
That's not how democracy (on paper) should work, in either direction

PresidentStalkeyes Eats moldy bread and flies into windows from United Kingdom of England-land Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: Do you like me? (Yes ⎕ Definitely ⎕ Absolutely!!! ⎕)
Eats moldy bread and flies into windows
#151683: Nov 9th 2016 at 2:18:28 AM

Just for the record: I'm British and have literally never posted in On-Topic Conversations before now, and I've been on the site since February.

I need some kind of reassurance here. I usually have a talent for optimism, but here I'm struggling a bit. I don't want to be a doom-mongerer because A) it makes me feel like shit, and B) it's kind of an oversaturated market right now. I want to have something good to say to my friends, family and work colleagues. Can someone give me some kind of reassurance here? And since this is the serious part of the forums, apparently, if you're going to say 'there is nothing good that can be said', then don't say anything; I've heard it all months before Trump was actually elected.

[down]Thanks for completely ignoring that last part. I guess I shouldn't have put in spoiler tags. :V

edited 9th Nov '16 2:22:09 AM by PresidentStalkeyes

Those sell-by-dates won't stop me because I can't read!
Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#151684: Nov 9th 2016 at 2:19:31 AM

[up]x7 add the fact that republicans have systematically destroyed the US education system so people believe the lies and you have the current state of the US.

[up] There is no reassurance to be had, it is just as bad as it looks.

edited 9th Nov '16 2:20:47 AM by Memers

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#151685: Nov 9th 2016 at 2:20:34 AM

You know, there is one thing that I find funny (in a dark way) about how Trump's victory is attributed to unexpectedly high white male turnout: It increases what credibility was already possessed by fictional stories in which a gendercide turned the USA into a Lady Land is considered a good thing because "(white) men are evil/stupid".

edited 9th Nov '16 2:20:45 AM by MarqFJA

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#151686: Nov 9th 2016 at 2:20:47 AM

[up][up] Yeah, there's a reason the more educated part of the populace mostly preferred HRC.

edited 9th Nov '16 2:21:12 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Eschaton Since: Jul, 2010
#151687: Nov 9th 2016 at 2:20:54 AM

[up][up][up][up][up]Our French posters haven't exactly sounded optimistic.

Wait a second.

I just found out California legalized weed.

FUCK YEAH. WE'RE GONNA NEED IT.

And Orange County went blue. Well, at least it's not completely full of morons.

edited 9th Nov '16 2:21:04 AM by Eschaton

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#151688: Nov 9th 2016 at 2:21:02 AM

I need some kind of reassurance here.
I personally think it's fairly unlikely that Trump will nuke anyone, especially the UK. I'm mostly worried about the effects of a fully red Congress with no veto and the Supreme Court openings.

edited 9th Nov '16 2:21:33 AM by Clarste

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#151689: Nov 9th 2016 at 2:21:05 AM

There are people singing "It's the end of the world as we know it" in this very thread, does that answer any questions?

edited 9th Nov '16 2:21:53 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#151690: Nov 9th 2016 at 2:21:38 AM

[up][up][up][up][up][up][up] Uhm....uhm...maybe we survive the next four years and Trumps incompetence and the consequences of them will at least deter the voters of other countries to fall for empty right wing promises that easily? I mean it worked with Brexit, right? The enthusiasm for leaving the EU has never been as low as now as the UK has shown would kind of clusterf... leaving truly is and how little its own politicians were prepared for it. So just maybe Trump will be a cautious tale for other countries?

edited 9th Nov '16 2:22:14 AM by Swanpride

FergardStratoavis A Fluff Ringer from Bellveins (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: A gay little love melody
A Fluff Ringer
#151691: Nov 9th 2016 at 2:21:47 AM

...so the fascist has won, huh.

That's something else, going to sleep in one world and waking up in another. Can anything be done about this? Can Obama still use what power he has to impeach this waste of a man? Throw him into jail for his sexual misconduct? Or for his tax evasion? For everything?

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#151692: Nov 9th 2016 at 2:22:41 AM

[up] Nope, only Congress can impeach him. The GOP controlled Congress.

And then we'd be stuck with Pence. The guy who wants to literally shock the gay out ouf homosexuals.

edited 9th Nov '16 2:23:18 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#151693: Nov 9th 2016 at 2:22:47 AM

I started this post thinking I had something to offer you, but... yeah, I don't. The best I can say is that the people who didn't vote for Trump still exist, and I hope this gets everyone out and fighting against the inevitable attacks on human rights. The best we can do now is damage control.

It's been fun.
Imca (Veteran)
#151694: Nov 9th 2016 at 2:22:53 AM

No, impechemnt only works on crimes commited while in office.

The yanks are fucked.

[up] They cant fight it, the only "fight" ammercia allows is this, elections.

Its over, they could take away every right a citizen has and there is nothing they could do any more.

Not that there going to go that far, but it is going to be BAD.

edited 9th Nov '16 2:24:00 AM by Imca

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#151695: Nov 9th 2016 at 2:23:22 AM

@nervmeister: Welcome to the real world. It's a necessary consequence of democracy - either we make nice with people with abhorrent views and baked-in racism (impossible), we crush and disenfranchise them, or we let them vote and risk dissatisfaction and disunity on our side giving them the mandate. The latter is much easier when you consider the fact that the Republicans are much better at crushing Democratic turnout than vice versa.

Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#151696: Nov 9th 2016 at 2:23:41 AM

Yes. I can lie to you right now. I am a 12 foot tall purple elephant.

"400 foot tall purple platypus bear with pink horns and silver wings" to be accurate. But I liked the reference.

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#151697: Nov 9th 2016 at 2:24:18 AM

@Eschaton

Don't expect you to be able to have it, it's still illegal via federal law and you can be damn sure that Trump will enforce it.

edited 9th Nov '16 2:25:46 AM by Memers

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#151698: Nov 9th 2016 at 2:24:32 AM

@Imca Yes, yes we are.

The petty part of me takes comfort knowing that the people who voted for Trump are also fucked. They just don't realize it yet.

edited 9th Nov '16 2:27:12 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#151699: Nov 9th 2016 at 2:24:34 AM

. I need some kind of reassurance here. I usually have a talent for optimism, but here I'm struggling a bit. I don't want to be a doom-mongerer because A) it makes me feel like shit, and B) it's kind of an oversaturated market right now. I want to have something good to say to my friends, family and work colleagues. Can someone give me some kind of reassurance here?
We've heard "so-and-so candidate (Dem or Rep) will be the end of democracy/freedom/life itself/etc." before and we'll likely hear it again many times. And frankly, it's gotten rather dull now.

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#151700: Nov 9th 2016 at 2:25:42 AM

I'm just struck with a really depressing thought. Were the New Deal, the 1950s, and similar expansions of taxation, the welfare state, and the related prosperity and equality only possible because the progressives made sure that black people wouldn't be invited to the table?


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