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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#151626: Nov 9th 2016 at 1:50:12 AM

[up] Google "2016 popular vote" and set timeframe to 24 hours.

Trump won 58,242,196 to HRC's 57,786,965

A difference of 455231 votes. It was down to the wire.

edited 9th Nov '16 1:51:54 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#151627: Nov 9th 2016 at 1:51:06 AM

That's what we get for betting on the better nature of humanity.
I'll still do it regardless, mostly because projection is still a thing.

Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#151628: Nov 9th 2016 at 1:51:16 AM

[up][up]So there's no hope left.

edited 9th Nov '16 1:51:23 AM by Medinoc

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#151629: Nov 9th 2016 at 1:51:18 AM

Clearly Sealand will be the next Superpower.

Imca (Veteran)
#151630: Nov 9th 2016 at 1:51:36 AM

Yea, she lost popular vote too now, racisim one guys, its over.

[up][up] none...

edited 9th Nov '16 1:52:00 AM by Imca

Eschaton Since: Jul, 2010
#151631: Nov 9th 2016 at 1:52:33 AM

Hate is life

Hate is power

Hate wins

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#151632: Nov 9th 2016 at 1:52:39 AM

... Chances of a military coup deposing Trump should he prove to be President Evil?

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#151633: Nov 9th 2016 at 1:53:11 AM

Low

Oh really when?
Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#151634: Nov 9th 2016 at 1:53:21 AM

[up]x11 Yeah no kidding. Trump wants to literally set up concentration camps and overturn Roe v Wade for starters and that's not even getting into the repeal of Obamacare, which many Americans rely on now. Probably kill food stamp programs, allow gay conversion camps, etc etc.

edited 9th Nov '16 1:53:47 AM by Memers

Reflextion from a post-sanity world (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
#151635: Nov 9th 2016 at 1:53:52 AM

Clearly, the lesson to be learned here is that things like compassion, decency, and tolerance, have no place in this festering cesspit of a country.

Someone did tell me life was going to be this way.
Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#151636: Nov 9th 2016 at 1:55:04 AM

This is the worst-case scenario. Trump takes Presidency, GOP retains Senate and House majorities. There are no checks on Trump's power right now. This is about as bad as it can conceivably be.

I cannot for the life of me believe this could have happened. I thought we were better than that.

Not quite. There are still three checks on Trump's power. Two are on the power of the Republican party in general, and the third is only really on Donald himself.

The first is the filibuster - legislation and SCOTUS nominees can still (in theory) be held up in the Senate forever by the filibuster or the threat thereof, as while the GOP controls the Senate, they do NOT have a filibuster-proof majority of 60 seats. The second is that, even for the Supreme Court, overturning precedent is hard and they have to actually justify why the case they're now taking on is different enough from the previous precedent-establishing case to rule on the issue again, rather than just letting their previous precedent stand unchallenged.

The third, more personal check is that many Republicans do not like Donald Trump. This means that he may not have an easy time getting legislation he wants passed if even a handful of Republican Representatives or Senators stand against him. Now, on the flip side, I expect almost none of this in the other direction, as I foresee Trump more or less just rubber-stamping any Republican-passed legislation put before him.

Imca (Veteran)
#151637: Nov 9th 2016 at 1:56:00 AM

"Clearly, the lesson to be learned here is that things like compassion, decency, and tolerance, have no place in this festering cesspit of a country. world."

FTFY, Japan, China, Russia, the entirety of the middle east, the UK, all would like to say hi.

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#151638: Nov 9th 2016 at 1:56:16 AM

So Steven Armstrong was right on one thing: America did go to shit.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#151639: Nov 9th 2016 at 1:57:09 AM

Master Thomas was right. This world needs to be reset.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#151640: Nov 9th 2016 at 1:57:45 AM

[up]x3 Sometimes I wonder if we should never have left the treetops.

edited 9th Nov '16 1:58:04 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Eschaton Since: Jul, 2010
#151641: Nov 9th 2016 at 1:57:52 AM

[up][up][up][up][up]"Best" case scenario is that Republicans actually remove the filibuster so they can do what they want, and then get ABSOLUTELY FUCKED whenever the Democrats come back into power.

And it could happen. The Wall is going to be the next Iraq, and it's gonna be a doozy.

edited 9th Nov '16 1:58:08 AM by Eschaton

Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#151642: Nov 9th 2016 at 1:58:47 AM

Yea, she lost popular vote too now, racisim one guys, its over.
At first I misread that (you used "one", when they homophone "won" was what you were looking for) and was going to make some snark about this proving that orange people can now stand assured that there is no glass ceiling above them.

Vampireandthen In love with an Uptown Girl from Northern Ireland Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: A teenager in love
In love with an Uptown Girl
#151643: Nov 9th 2016 at 1:59:11 AM

We cannot lose hope, people. We must hold onto to our hope that a better tomorrow will dawn when this long, four year night ends.

Please allow me to introduce myself, I am a man of wealth and taste. Nice to meet you, hope you can guess my name.
nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#151644: Nov 9th 2016 at 1:59:17 AM

When it turns out that supposed legions of racist/phobic lynch mobs don't log off of reddit to take over America, Mad Max-style, I'll bring these thread pages back up so you can put things in perspective. It's not happening, folks. Chillax. Trump may be a pain in the ass, but a doomsday harbinger, he aint.

edited 9th Nov '16 2:02:35 AM by nervmeister

Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#151645: Nov 9th 2016 at 2:00:14 AM

"Best" case scenario is that Republicans actually remove the filibuster so they can do what they want, and then get ABSOLUTELY FUCKED whenever the Democrats come back into power.
That sounds dangerously accelerationist. It's generally not a good idea to wish for things to become worse to create a backlash to undo them.

Cronosonic (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#151646: Nov 9th 2016 at 2:02:13 AM

The filibuster in the senate will be a major check on Trump's power, for sure, provided that the GOP doesn't try the "nuclear option" (and there are many reasons why they'd be quite hesitant to use it) and much of the GOP absolutely hates Trump, including his primary rivals, many of whom find his policies utterly deplorable.

Plus, China and Russia will laugh, but Trump could bring down their economies along with the US's, especially if Trump makes good on his threat of a trade war with China - China utterly depends on the US for demand, and if that demand dries up due to a trade war, they're fucked. The Communist Party is probably freaking out behind the scenes.

edited 9th Nov '16 2:03:06 AM by Cronosonic

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#151647: Nov 9th 2016 at 2:02:40 AM

Clinton wasn't a bad candidate, scandals or not. Any Democratic candidate would have been covered in faked shit - remember, the press has a right to lie, the Supreme Court has said so.

I'd say Trump's victory is a result of the Democratic Party not being able to offer anything to the average white guy, and being ineffective at suppressing their votes while not crushing the voter suppression committed by the Republicans (see: Pennsylvania, North Carolina). Even if Trump isn't actually offering anything, he isn't publically dismissing them as idiots who don't know what they want. (Even though the latter is true, unless you can crush them you have to accommodate them.)

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#151648: Nov 9th 2016 at 2:03:16 AM

[up][up][up]Well, the accelerationists have been out in force this election. I'm not surprised in the least.

[up][up][up][up]I suppose we will be linked a poorly scripted 3 hour video how all of this isn't real?

edited 9th Nov '16 2:03:40 AM by Krieger22

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
Eschaton Since: Jul, 2010
#151649: Nov 9th 2016 at 2:03:28 AM

[up][up][up][up]We're kinda in that situation already. But I understand, and an underlying part of me agrees. It depends how badly the Republicans want to push their own agenda. Some of them, I assume, are not stupid enough to be blind to the danger. Obviously, my confidence in that is not strong.

edited 9th Nov '16 2:04:20 AM by Eschaton

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#151650: Nov 9th 2016 at 2:05:33 AM

I'd say Trump's victory is a result of the Democratic Party not being able to offer anything to the average white guy, and being ineffective at suppressing their votes while not crushing the voter suppression committed by the Republicans (see: Pennsylvania, North Carolina). Even if Trump isn't actually offering anything, he isn't publically dismissing them as idiots who don't know what they want. (Even though the latter is true, unless you can crush them you have to accommodate them.)
You're kidding about the part in bold, right?


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