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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Speaking of the earlier talk about NATO being terrified of Trump:
Nato puts 300,000 ground troops on 'high alert' as tensions with Russia mount
Jens Stoltenberg, the secretary-general of Nato, said the alliance hoped to speed up the response time of thousands of its troops to allow it to react to a combat situation more effectively.
In October, it was reported Nato was preparing to station 4,000 troops on the Russian border with the Baltic states in its biggest military build-up since the Cold War. The troops will be summoned from nations across the alliance, including the UK.
“We have seen Russia being much more active in many different ways,” Mr Stoltenberg told The Times.
“We have seen a more assertive Russia implementing a substantial military build-up over many years – tripling defence spending since 2000 in real terms; developing new military capabilities; exercising their forces and using military force against neighbours.
“We have also seen Russia using propaganda in Europe among Nato allies and that is exactly the reason why Nato is responding. We are responding with the biggest reinforcement of our collective defence since the end of the Cold War.”
Mr Stoltenberg refused to be drawn on the specific number of troops being put on alert, but Britain’s outgoing Nato representative Sir Adam Thomson said it was likely to be around 300,000.
Sir Adam said the aim was to find a way to mobilise the troops within two months, instead of the typical time of around six months.
The proposition was discussed by Nato defence ministers at a conference in October. “There are a large number of people in the armed forces of Nato allies, we are looking into how more of them can be ready at shorter notice,” Mr Stoltenberg added.
Nato is also responding to an increase in espionage, hybrid warfare and cyberattacks by Russia and other non-Nato states, according to Sir Adam.
The alliance’s response is in part a result of Russia’s annexation of Crimea in 2014, as well as a bid to reassure ex-Soviet states, like Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia, all Nato members, who fear Moscow could try a similar tactic again.
A US think-tank has said it believes Russia could overrun Nato’s current military force in the Baltic states in a matter of hours, if a conflict began.
Nearly half of Russians fear Moscow's intervention in the Syrian conflict could lead to World War III, a recent poll found.
Last week, it was reported Russian troops were planning to conduct military training exercises in Serbia involving 150 paratroopers, while Nato holds an emergency exercise drill in neighbouring Montenegro.
It will be irritating at worst, uneventful at best. Dont believe the hype about the "death of the free world". It's just the head chatter of a million year old instinct that was only ever effective at keeping you from getting eaten by Similidons way back when it mattered.
edited 9th Nov '16 12:46:09 AM by nervmeister
So he could start locking up political dissidents, denying people their rights (even more so than we already do), invading people's privacy in search of dissent. I...I hate this. I hate everything about this. I Don't. Want. To Live. In This Timeline.
I saw someone recommending that everybody start getting together some hefty Internet security if they plan on bad-mouthing Trump.
"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."![]()
https://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-doc-relay.html.en
edited 9th Nov '16 12:45:59 AM by AngelusNox
Inter arma enim silent legesThat's great! It starts with an earthquake Birds and snakes, an aeroplane, and Lenny Bruce is not afraid
Eye of a hurricane, listen to yourself churn World serves its own needs, don't misserve your own needs Feed it up a knock, speed, grunt, no, strength The ladder starts to clatter with a fear of height, down, height Wire in a fire, represent the seven games And a government for hire and a combat site Left her, wasn't coming in a hurry with the Furies breathing down your neck
EDIT: We are all going to sing this when Trump is sworn in.
edited 9th Nov '16 12:58:51 AM by Vampireandthen
Please allow me to introduce myself, I am a man of wealth and taste. Nice to meet you, hope you can guess my name.I can only pray that Trump wakes up tomorrow and realizes that we really can not afford to abandon our biggest allies in Europe and Asia even if we cozy up to Russia more.
Also I can only pray he is more moderate in practice with Judges and domestic policies...
I don't think any of this is actually going to happen and I and the world won't last the 4 years but damn it's all I can do.
edited 9th Nov '16 1:02:43 AM by Memers
Six o'clock - TV hour. Don't get caught in foreign towers. Slash and burn, return. Listen to yourself churn. Locking in uniforming, book burning, bloodletting. Every motive escalate, automotive incinerate. Light a candle, light a motive. Step down, step down. Watch your heel crush, crushed. Uh oh, this means no fear, cavalier. Renegade steer clear! A tournament, a tournament, A tournament of lies. Offer me solutions, offer me alternatives And I decline.
It's the end of the world as we know it It's the end of the world as we know it (I had some time alone) It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine (It's time I had some time alone) I feel fine
Don't leave me hanging people, we all have to sing.
Please allow me to introduce myself, I am a man of wealth and taste. Nice to meet you, hope you can guess my name.On one hand Colin's a celeb with probably more competent security than Milo.
On the other... American Hyperconservative Gun Culture.
How The Daily Beast Will Stand Up to President Donald Trump
In 2008, after President Obama was elected, right-wing talk radio host Rush Limbaugh declared, “I hope he fails.”
At The Daily Beast, we count ourselves in the John Wayne camp.
We were early, principled and unapologetic opponents of Donald Trump’s divisive and demagogic campaign.
But if he is our next president, we will not question his legitimacy or hope he fails.
Instead, we will count ourselves members of the loyal opposition—loyal to the United States of America and opposed to the policies proposed by the president-elect during his campaign. And we will reflect on what has led so many of our fellow Americans to embrace such a messenger.
It’s possible, as Trump and his defenders have sometimes suggested, that Donald the dealmaker will emerge in the Oval Office—that his campaign positions were just reality TV theater and the office itself will ennoble, inspiring him to act on his airy promises to “make America one again.” These Trump-rationalizers believe that his past positions—as a pro-choice, pro-business Democrat—will re-emerge.
Perhaps. But history shows that candidates who take power generally mean what they said. That’s why we’ll stand against any efforts to deport by force 11 million undocumented Mexican immigrants, tearing families apart. We’ll oppose a “temporary” ban on Muslim immigrants from vast regions of the world. We’ll resist any efforts to weaken NATO or encourage Asian allies to develop nuclear weapons.
We will hold him to account for any lies that he tells and any attempts to intimidate his opponents. We will push back on appeals to white identity politics that try to divide our nation and demean our essential diversity. The Daily Beast will always call out bullies, bigots, and hypocrites.
The policies candidate Trump has proposed represent an existential challenge to our civic fabric, liberal values and world order. And that is a challenge that citizens and journalists will have to confront unflinchingly in our duty to remain active and engaged while speaking our conscience.
We will not shimmy or seek to suck up to those in power. We will remain steadfast in our belief that the difference between patriotism and nationalism is at the heart of American exceptionalism.
Fifty-eight percent of voters in ABC’s exit poll said they would be concerned or scared by a President Trump. Seventy-one percent said they were bothered by his treatment of women, and 28% of his own voters don’t think he’s honest or trustworthy. They voted for a candidate who, in Bill Clinton’s old formulation, is “strong and wrong.”
That’s comforting, in its way. We don’t for a moment think that every Trump voter shares his darkest views or instincts, only that they were willing to accept them as a way of casting a vote against “the system,” as they’ve seen it. Now, their candidate is the system, and we’ll be there to hold him to account for how he runs it.
The next four years won’t be boring. But what’s good for ratings might be brutally bad for our republic.
We have survived terrible presidents before. We will survive a President Trump. We will do it by keeping faith in the democratic process and our deeper values. We will do it by remaining committed to vigorous citizenship and a free press.
Barack Obama still has work to do.
This just happened:
Notice -- Continuation of the National Emergency with Respect to The Proliferation of Weapons of Mass Destruction
CONTINUATION OF THE NATIONAL EMERGENCY WITH RESPECT TO
THE PROLIFERATION OF WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTIONOn November 14, 1994, by Executive Order 12938, the President declared a national emergency with respect to the unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security, foreign policy, and economy of the United States posed by the proliferation of nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons (weapons of mass destruction) and the means of delivering such weapons. On July 28, 1998, the President issued Executive Order 13094, amending Executive Order 12938, to respond more effectively to the worldwide threat of weapons of mass destruction proliferation activities. On June 28, 2005, the President issued Executive Order 13382, which, inter alia, further amended Executive Order 12938, to improve our ability to combat proliferation. The proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them continues to pose an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security, foreign policy, and economy of the United States; therefore, the national emergency first declared on November 14, 1994, and extended in each subsequent year, must continue. In accordance with section 202(d) of the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1622(d)), I am continuing the national emergency declared in Executive Order 12938.
This notice shall be published in the Federal Register and transmitted to the Congress.
BARACK OBAMA
THE WHITE HOUSE, November 8, 2016.
It's the end of the world as we know it (It's time I had some time alone) It's the end of the world as we know it (It's time I had some time alone) It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine (It's time I had some time alone)
The other night I dreamt of knives. Continental drift divide. Mountains sit in a line. Leonard Bernstein, Leonid Brezhnev, Lenny Bruce, and Lester Bangs Birthday party, cheesecake, jelly beans, boom! You symbiotic, patriotic, slam book neck, right? Right.
It's the end of the world as we know it (It's time I had some time alone) It's the end of the world as we know it (It's time I had some time alone) It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine (It's time I had some time alone)
Please allow me to introduce myself, I am a man of wealth and taste. Nice to meet you, hope you can guess my name.

Yes if Trump elects a sufficiently hateful Supreme Court judge there is literally no law or right in this nation that can't be repealed. Nor any piece of legislation stopped.
This is catastrophic.
Oh really when?