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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#149476: Nov 8th 2016 at 12:40:46 PM

No one is saying that supporting Trump is a crime.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#149477: Nov 8th 2016 at 12:40:58 PM

I wouldn't advise profiling a person solely based on who he/she votes for.

If they vote for Mr. "Grab'em by the Pussy", they are either stupid, evil, or both.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
megarockman from The Sixth Borough (Experienced Trainee)
#149478: Nov 8th 2016 at 12:41:54 PM

Gary Johnson's posted his ballot on Twitter. It's illegal in New Mexico, though apparently it's not well-enforced.

edited 8th Nov '16 12:43:02 PM by megarockman

The damned queen and the relentless knight.
Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Rollin' rollin' rollin'
#149479: Nov 8th 2016 at 12:45:09 PM

Has anyone mentioned here yet that the Don's son took a picture of his ballot voting for his dad, which is illegal and invalidates his vote? I don't really care if it's been mentioned yet, actually, I just want to say it more because it brings me so much spiteful joy.

[up]...Wait, did he vote for himself? Can...can he do that?

edited 8th Nov '16 12:45:52 PM by Zarek

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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#149480: Nov 8th 2016 at 12:46:41 PM

Finally casted my ballot. Walked in at 3:30, walked out at 3:33.

Hell yeah.

New Survey coming this weekend!
megarockman from The Sixth Borough (Experienced Trainee)
#149481: Nov 8th 2016 at 12:46:54 PM

That is illegal in NY and has been mentioned on previous pages, but I've not learned whether or not that in itself would be grounds to invalidate the ballot.

[up][up]Well...sure, why not? He (presumably) is a registered voter, no?

Although come to think of it, that pic might actually pass muster since I don't think anything indicating that was Johnson's ballot is on it.

edited 8th Nov '16 12:48:16 PM by megarockman

The damned queen and the relentless knight.
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#149482: Nov 8th 2016 at 12:47:40 PM

Granted, its not like NY is competitive.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
TheWanted Since: Oct, 2013
#149483: Nov 8th 2016 at 12:48:04 PM

Why is it illegal though? What's the point?

NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#149484: Nov 8th 2016 at 12:48:50 PM

Wait, did he vote for himself? Can...can he do that?
Yes, candidates can vote for themselves. Why wouldn't they be able to?

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
megarockman from The Sixth Borough (Experienced Trainee)
#149486: Nov 8th 2016 at 12:49:36 PM

Violates the concept of the secret ballot. In olden days, it was a lot easier to bully or bribe voters into voting for such-and-such candidate if it could be verified that they did (19th Century many votes were recorded by verbal shouting, I think).

The damned queen and the relentless knight.
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#149487: Nov 8th 2016 at 12:50:24 PM

@Zarek: Why wouldn't he be able to? It's his vote, no one else's.

Oh God! Natural light!
Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Rollin' rollin' rollin'
#149488: Nov 8th 2016 at 12:53:32 PM

Why wouldn't they be able to?

I dunno, it seems odd to me. Like, I guess, for one thing, obviously each candidate thinks they're the best person for the job. No one's gonna openly campaign against someone and then be like "Oh yeah I'll vote for that guy."

Also, like, if the point is that the people choose who is best to lead the country, why do the people being considered even get slightly more of a voice in that then they already have?

I mean it doesn't, like, anger me for realsies, one vote is a very small difference, but it's just...weird, to me.

"We're home, Chewie."
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#149489: Nov 8th 2016 at 12:57:56 PM

I...don't get your reasoning. Their own votes don't shift anyone else's. They count the same as everyone else.

Like, let's assume that when Hillary Clinton decides to run for President, she's already planning on voting for herself. So her job is to now convince a majority of the population to vote for her as well.

edited 8th Nov '16 12:59:49 PM by KarkatTheDalek

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megarockman from The Sixth Borough (Experienced Trainee)
#149490: Nov 8th 2016 at 12:58:47 PM

"Oh, you voted for the candidate I don't like. Whoops, you've been fired/Shame if something happened to your wife."

EDIT: Oh, wait, I mistook you for another poster. Stupid hyperspeed thread...

edited 8th Nov '16 1:00:30 PM by megarockman

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Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Rollin' rollin' rollin'
#149491: Nov 8th 2016 at 12:59:09 PM

Well, no, but they're still adding to their own numbers, are they not?

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#149492: Nov 8th 2016 at 1:00:24 PM

...And? One vote will change absolutely nothing.

Oh God! Natural light!
LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#149493: Nov 8th 2016 at 1:00:47 PM

That's within their rights though. They get to vote, just like everyone else.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
BestOf FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC! from Finland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC!
#149494: Nov 8th 2016 at 1:00:56 PM

To me it would be very weird if a candidate didn't vote for themself. If they don't think they're the best pick they shouldn't be running - they should be campaigning for the best choice. Banning candidates from voting would be ridiculous - you want every legal adult to have the right to vote. Democracy is based on that idea. (IMO even criminals in jail should be allowed to vote, but I know that's often not the case in the US.)

You're not allowed to post photos of your ballot because there used to be cases where people would be paid to vote for a given candidate, and photos are a way to prove you've done it. It's impossible to control for vote buying completely, but at least you can make it harder for the buyer by preventing anyone from proving how they voted. I don't think this is often enforced, though.

Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#149495: Nov 8th 2016 at 1:02:05 PM

A candidate is also voting for their local tickets, which is their right, and ballots are supposed to be anonymous so it gets lost in the shuffle. No point in disenfranchising a candidate on the ticket, a lot of work for not much effect.

Also, for them to not vote at all when there's nothing stopping them would be met with obvious criticisim; "do you not believe in the system you're trying to get elected with?"

speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#149496: Nov 8th 2016 at 1:03:01 PM

What is the legal penalty for taking a picture of yourself in the voting process? Fine? Jail time?

megarockman from The Sixth Borough (Experienced Trainee)
#149497: Nov 8th 2016 at 1:03:25 PM

[up]The laws are by state - AP has a map.

Among states where it is expressly illegal (and where the article says), some have fines. Illinois has a 1-3 year prison sentence, apparently.

edited 8th Nov '16 1:05:10 PM by megarockman

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Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#149498: Nov 8th 2016 at 1:03:44 PM

Fines in most places from what I've heard.

speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Rollin' rollin' rollin'
#149500: Nov 8th 2016 at 1:09:08 PM

Unfortunately $1,000 is pocket change to the Trumps. Alas.

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