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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#149001: Nov 7th 2016 at 6:44:53 AM

[up][up]What's kind of funny about that is that all the major news outlets have already written at least five or six election result stories to cover all reasonable outcomes and some unreasonable ones as well. This is so their late-night staffers can simply fill in a few blanks and then blast them out as soon as the result is declared (or no result is declared).

At a basic level, you've got "Trump landslide", "Trump squeaker", "Too close to call", "Clinton squeaker", "Clinton landslide". To that you can add things like "Widespread fraud claimed", "Electoral college tie", and a few others. There'll be boilerplate for the Senate races as well.

edited 7th Nov '16 6:47:03 AM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#149002: Nov 7th 2016 at 6:55:33 AM

So Hillary is in fact surpassing Obama in the early Floridian black vote

2012: 539,000 2016: 564,000 (not counting today)

And of course, the mainstream "liberal" media didn't report it. They'd rather continue the lie that black people will only vote for a black person. And we all that never happened... like at all... seriously

Democrats ahead in early voting in Utah

Probably won't last, but imagine if the Democrats win Utah...

edited 7th Nov '16 7:01:34 AM by NoName999

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#149003: Nov 7th 2016 at 7:01:01 AM

I really hope those numbers in NC and Florida (regarding new voters, African Americans, Latinos, women and educated young people turning out in record numbers) are accurate. If they are, this election is already over.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#149004: Nov 7th 2016 at 7:03:55 AM

[up][up][up]

Unfortunately, doing that to save time is leading to the tinfoil hat brigades to declare "The fix is in!" because they see one particular version of it.

edited 7th Nov '16 7:04:08 AM by ironballs16

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#149005: Nov 7th 2016 at 7:04:33 AM

>Republicans will refuse to work with her

What a surprise, the Republicans will refuse to work with a second Democratic president so that the right-wing media can claim that she "did nothing", like Obama (who didn't do nothing, despite their best efforts).

NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#149006: Nov 7th 2016 at 7:05:22 AM

Early voting in Florida ends with record turnout in Democratic strongholds

Tick tock, Donald. [lol]

[up]Look at it this way: America would rather have a do nothing government than a government run by Republicans. [lol][lol][lol]

edited 7th Nov '16 7:06:35 AM by NoName999

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#149007: Nov 7th 2016 at 7:13:43 AM

One historical question: I keep seeing work after work slamming the War on Drugs as useless, and yet the truth is the mob, drug dealing, and organized crime, are much lower nowadays than they were when the policy got started. So, if not the policy, where lies the credit? In Orange Is The New Black, two inmates argue that Roe vs. Wade is the real reason: that the "missing criminals" were, roughly, unwanted children that hadn't been born, and hadn't perpetuated The Chain of Harm.

What does the research say?

edited 7th Nov '16 7:14:13 AM by TheHandle

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
No longer a forum herald
#149008: Nov 7th 2016 at 7:21:12 AM

That theory is taken from a book called Freakonomics, which goes over some oddball economic theories and connections. It's got some flaws, but it's still worth a read.

My view is that the book does demonstrate there is some link between abortion and crime rate, but more research is needed to find out just what the precise numbers are. The problem is that, like many of the ideas in that book, this is so left field, many economists outright denounced the theory groundlessly. So it's unlikely that further research will happen.

edited 7th Nov '16 7:23:57 AM by TotemicHero

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#149009: Nov 7th 2016 at 7:29:33 AM

Reuters: U.S. seeking death penalty as trial begins in South Carolina church shooting.

The final phase of jury selection begins on Monday in the U.S. death penalty trial for a white man charged with federal hate crimes after the shooting deaths of nine black parishioners at a historic South Carolina church last year.

Dylann Roof, who is accused of holding white supremacist views, was indicted on 33 federal counts of hate crimes, obstruction of religion and using a firearm in a violent crime after he opened fire during a Bible study session at Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston in June 2015.

The proceedings getting underway at the U.S. courthouse in Charleston will unfold as another racially-charged trial progresses across the street. Michael Slager, a white former police officer in North Charleston, is being tried for murder in state court in the shooting of black motorist Walter Scott in April 2015.

The two incidents, which occurred just two months apart, shook the country and further intensified the debate over U.S. race relations.

In Roof's case, lawyers could take about two weeks to cull the remaining potential jurors. More than 700 people filled out questionnaires about the case when jury selection began in September, out of 3,000 summoned for the trial. Twelve jurors and 6 alternates will hear the testimony.

If Roof is convicted, the penalty phase of the trial could extend into January. Roof, 22, has offered to plead guilty if the death penalty was dropped, court filings show.

He also faces a death sentence if found guilty of murder in state court in a trial scheduled for next year.

Prosecutors say Roof planned the church attack for months, singling out victims who were black and elderly, and showing no remorse. At the federal trial, they plan to present racist manifestos that he purportedly wrote in an effort to incite a race war.

Roof's attorneys declined to comment ahead of the trial, and his family has asked for privacy.

"We are still struggling to understand why Dylann caused so much grief and pain to so many good people," the family said in a statement last week.

Relatives of the victims have been divided on the decision to seek capital punishment, after some tearfully offered words of forgiveness during Roof's first court appearance.

The city plans an outpouring of support during the trial, with restaurants donating daily lunches to family members attending court.

"How they chose to respond to the tragedy made the difference," said Helen Hill, executive director of the Charleston Convention and Visitors Bureau. "They are a model of how you can truly bring about long-lasting change."

Between leaving the kid to rot in jail and killing him, the latter is being nice to him.

The Atlantic: The Four Groups That Will Decide the Presidential Race

Inter arma enim silent leges
Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#149010: Nov 7th 2016 at 7:30:02 AM

[up][up]It's one of those ideas that either is bonkers, or hindsight will demonstrate had traction, but was too ahead of the curve for people to accept.

At the point they're put forward, it can be hard to tell them apart. :/

edited 7th Nov '16 7:30:30 AM by Euodiachloris

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#149011: Nov 7th 2016 at 7:32:26 AM

[up][up][up]Not just abortion but the rise of viable birth control in general, IIRC. Hormone pills became a thing around that time as well.

Second the recommendation for Freakanomics.

edited 7th Nov '16 7:33:16 AM by Elle

FluffyMcChicken My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare from where the floating lights gleam Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: In another castle
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#149013: Nov 7th 2016 at 7:51:16 AM

Just wondering, is there any place the election results will be streamed for those of us who don't have TV?

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#149014: Nov 7th 2016 at 7:52:03 AM

A kid in a wheelchair (he has cerebral palsy) protested at a Trump rally, and was removed by security/assaulted by Trump supporters. Then he got to meet Obama.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-obama-cerebral-palsy_us_581ffb8de4b0aac62485438c

[up]The big 24/7 news stations will have live coverage online (CNN, MSNBC, Fox, BBC, etc).

[down]And beyond.

edited 7th Nov '16 7:57:10 AM by Rationalinsanity

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#149016: Nov 7th 2016 at 8:00:10 AM

I expect Google to do a thing too, probably on their news page. And if you don't want video, try NPR radio which always streams.

edited 7th Nov '16 8:01:37 AM by Elle

GameGuruGG Vampire Hunter from Castlevania (Before Recorded History)
Vampire Hunter
#149017: Nov 7th 2016 at 8:07:18 AM

Yeah, it will be on ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, PBS, CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News Channel and thus available on those networks' respective streaming services. I do know that there will be some livestreams on You Tube and Facebook from those companies.

edited 7th Nov '16 8:10:02 AM by GameGuruGG

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#149018: Nov 7th 2016 at 8:12:35 AM

Yeah, I meant for free and without accounts. IIRC CNN and such require you to register for their services, though they might be making an exception for events like these.

Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#149019: Nov 7th 2016 at 8:12:40 AM

[[http://warontherocks.com/2016/11/trolling-for-trump-how-russia-is-trying-to-destroy-our-democracy/ Reading this article, I can't help but appreciate how Russia is using the internet in a way no other state has before]] - its horrifying and fascinating at the same time .They've already been doing this in Western Europe?

edited 7th Nov '16 8:14:07 AM by Xopher001

megarockman from The Sixth Borough (Experienced Trainee)
#149020: Nov 7th 2016 at 8:16:04 AM

Ballotpedia has a map of when each state's polls close.

The damned queen and the relentless knight.
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#149021: Nov 7th 2016 at 8:17:07 AM

Yeah, in Hungary, they found stuff to leak that was dirty enough to upset the balance of power and get a pretty pro-Russian guy elected, IIRC.

Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#149022: Nov 7th 2016 at 8:19:20 AM

I'm planning on studying cyber sec in Estonia, and there's no doubt now that we'll be discussing this stuff

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#149023: Nov 7th 2016 at 8:26:19 AM

Given that Estonia was hit with a series of cyber attacks intended to cripple every government agency and firm with an Internet connection? It's guaranteed.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#149024: Nov 7th 2016 at 8:32:28 AM

And beyond.

Reminds me of this strip, which sadly resonates well with the current election.

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#149025: Nov 7th 2016 at 8:34:29 AM

Any ideas for political cartoons for when this is over?

For a Trump Victory, I'm thinking a Star Wars themed one, with Senator Padme Clinton saying "So this is how America dies. With thunderous applause". Though Trump as Palpatine isn't quite right. More like Trump as Nute Gunray.

For a Hillary one, I'm thinking a multiracial, multi-religion, multi-gender/lgbt crowd hugging each other and smiling/crying with relief.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you

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