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BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#148976: Nov 7th 2016 at 12:18:36 AM

I swear that some of the people that post in this thread are better journalists than people on the news shows and networks.

Do not obey in advance.
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#148977: Nov 7th 2016 at 12:21:32 AM

[up][up][up][up][up]Right-wing demagogues always need someone to portray as a threat. And it's really hard to mistake anti-semitism for anything else anymore, even the dog whistle flavornote .

And both major races who happen to have brown skin or have reasons to migrate to the US are both people Trump's base is deathly afraid of to begin with.

edited 7th Nov '16 12:22:14 AM by Krieger22

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#148978: Nov 7th 2016 at 12:22:03 AM

[up][up] See, when you say things like that, I worry that's there's something out there that we've gotten horrifyingly wrong.

edited 7th Nov '16 12:22:18 AM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#148979: Nov 7th 2016 at 12:22:23 AM

[up][up][up] The thing is, those people are not journalists. John Oliver's segment on Journalism pointed out that most of those people, including himself, gets their information from actual journalists who work at local newspapers.

edited 7th Nov '16 12:24:04 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#148980: Nov 7th 2016 at 12:22:26 AM

Bat, hence why I wrote it. I considered the hypocrisy obvious enough tongue

Btw, this came over my dashboard. And a update

...#OrangeIsTheNewBrown is the perfect hashtag for my feelings about Trump

edited 7th Nov '16 12:26:31 AM by 3of4

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#148981: Nov 7th 2016 at 12:29:07 AM

[up] I'm reminded of It Can't Happen Here. Heck, even the YMMV trope page for it brings up the eerie similarities with Trump.

Orange Is The New Brown...is that a reference to Brown Shirts? Or that Donald Trump is a giant sack of shit?

edited 7th Nov '16 12:31:29 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#148982: Nov 7th 2016 at 12:30:52 AM

Ah, that. I still haven't gotten around to engineering a creative accident for that former EA forum moderator I know who basically declared himself a fellow traveler of fascismExplanation .

Defeating both Trump and Trumpism

Although Donald Trump’s defeat is a prerequisite to national recovery, the profound damage he has done to our nation will not be wiped away if he loses.

And even if she wins, Hillary Clinton will still be feeling the effects of the multiyear campaign waged by Republicans in Congress to destroy her. The evidence suggests that her GOP foes will try to end her presidency prematurely by colluding with an implacably hostile conservative media and, it now seems, right-wing agents inside the FBI.

Clinton got good news on Sunday when FBI Director James B. Comey announced that his decision not to charge her would remain unchanged after the agency’s review of newly discovered emails.

But Comey’s announcement only underscored his own recklessness in issuing his Oct. 28 letter announcing the existence of the emails before the FBI even knew what was in them. His letter poisoned the political atmosphere against Clinton without any justification — to the great advantage of Trump and the glee of her congressional critics.

So while I celebrate the conclusion of the most abysmal campaign of my lifetime, I fear that this will not end the division, aggression and rancid prejudice Trump has nurtured.

A Trump victory would unleash the furies. But even a Trump loss will not advance the cause of social peace and mutual tolerance unless the majority of Americans who still believe in making our experiment in self-government work insist on the need for Congress to govern, not obstruct. Abraham Lincoln had little use for political grudges: “I am in favor of short statutes of limitations in politics.” His successors in the Republican Party would no doubt declare him a sellout for harboring such sentiments.

After all we have learned about Trump’s selfishness, indiscipline, mendacity, greed, misogyny, vindictiveness and intellectual laziness, it should not be necessary to continue to make a case against him. The man who opened his campaign by declaring that many immigrants to our country from Mexico are “rapists” has legitimized far-right politics and the open expression of bigotry. White nationalism has flourished in the garden of Trumpism.

Voters know about his treatment of women, his shortchanging those who worked for him, his warm statements about authoritarian leaders, his readiness to be assisted by Vladimir Putin’s minions, his denigration of a Gold Star family and a heroic POW, and his open promises to use the instruments of government to punish his enemies. Long ago, all this should have reduced his share of the vote to single digits.

The fact that Trump, on the contrary, still has a chance of victory speaks to a profound distemper in the country. Our deep divides along lines of party, race, class, gender and region guarantee even a man as deeply flawed as Trump a firm foundation of support. And many of our fellow citizens, shaken by economic and social changes, are hurting so much that they have embraced the opportunity to use Trump as a way of expressing their rage.

Trump’s rise challenges both sides of politics. The massive support for Trump among white working-class voters suggests that they do not find the economic promises of progressive politicians sufficiently persuasive or believable to entice them away from the riskiest vote they will ever cast in their lives. Liberals have much work to do.

But the true disgrace is the timidity and opportunism of Republican leaders. By supporting Trump, legions of Republican officeholders, including House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (Wis.) and Senate Majority Leader Mitch Mc Connell (Ky.), have signaled that this preposterous candidate’s endorsement of their ideological agenda of tax cuts and deregulation matters far more to them than his authoritarian tendencies or his intolerance. History has not been kind to pro-business conservatives who in the past tried to use far-right demagogues to crush enemies to their left.

And the end of the campaign has found Trump in close alliance with Clinton’s Republican tormentors in Congress. Reps. Jason Chaffetz (Utah), Darrell Issa (Calif.), Trey Gowdy (S.C.) and their allies have spent years hurling charges and driving up Clinton’s unpopularity.

They gave Trump his talking points in the final days, with a major and outrageously misleading assist from the FBI. Comey’s second letter could not undo the gratuitous damage he caused Clinton or her party by abruptly altering the trajectory of the campaign.

One does not have to overlook her mistakes or her failings to insist that nothing Clinton has done justifies the hatred that has come her way. She is one of the most prepared and disciplined Americans ever to seek the presidency. She has devoted her life to public service, and her record as a senator and secretary of state won her high favorable ratings — which Congress’s taxpayer-financed investigation machine systematically set about to bring down.

If Clinton does prevail, the country will need to back up its rejection of Trump with a rebuke to those who would use Trumpian tactics to deny her legitimacy and stymie the government’s ability to function. Unending investigations that manufacture accusations based on preconceived conclusions is not Congress’s mission. The vile spirit of this campaign cannot be allowed to contaminate the next four years.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#148983: Nov 7th 2016 at 12:31:54 AM

Where'd you see that?

Here.

edited 7th Nov '16 12:32:18 AM by Deadbeatloser22

"Yup. That tasted purple."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#148984: Nov 7th 2016 at 12:35:33 AM

[up] Trump based his whole idiotic argument on the idea that the FBI couldn't possibly get through 650,000 emails in eight days. Once again proving that Trump has no clue how computers work. It would not be that difficult to go through that many emails in one week. It's not like Comey is personally reading through each and every email. Heck, I'm surprised it took this long.

Funny how the FBI are "rigged" again since they aren't giving the Trump campaign the answers they want again.

edited 7th Nov '16 12:36:44 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#148985: Nov 7th 2016 at 12:42:09 AM

About that Oklahoma earthquake, a number of earthquakes there are human made. "Fracking" and drilling for oil both can cause earthquakes.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#148986: Nov 7th 2016 at 1:18:04 AM

Some breaking news, Bill Clinton's attorney general Janet Reno has died at 78 due to complications of Parkinson's disease.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/janet-reno-us-attorney-general-died-43353469

edited 7th Nov '16 1:24:00 AM by sgamer82

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#148987: Nov 7th 2016 at 1:42:13 AM

Clearly Hillary had her murdered somehow.

WAKE UP SHEEPLE

"Yup. That tasted purple."
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#148988: Nov 7th 2016 at 2:00:20 AM

I'm just waiting for someone to say that, but sincerely. :/

Do not obey in advance.
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#148989: Nov 7th 2016 at 2:13:26 AM

So, tomorrow is Election Day.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
germi91 Public Servant from Spain Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Public Servant
#148990: Nov 7th 2016 at 2:28:32 AM

[up] Will the sun come out tomorrow Annie?

"It is true that we are called a democracy, for the administration is in the hands of the many and not of the few."
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#148992: Nov 7th 2016 at 5:43:32 AM

John Weaver, a Republican strategist (who mostly works for relative moderates like Mc Cain and Kasich), says outright that Clinton will win tomorrow and probably in an electoral landslide. However she will be so unpopular that the GOP will refuse to work with her, and ignore its own issues with demographics, which Weaver says is killing the party.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/07/politics/john-weaver-axe-files/index.html

edited 7th Nov '16 5:43:49 AM by Rationalinsanity

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NoName999 Since: May, 2011
Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#148994: Nov 7th 2016 at 6:08:10 AM

Yup. As they face electoral irrelevance, the GOP will dig in deeper and lash out more in areas where they have an advantage, but it comes from long-term desperation.

KentDawg1 All hail the meme. from Mancuunian oop nourth. Since: Aug, 2015 Relationship Status: All is for my lord
All hail the meme.
#148995: Nov 7th 2016 at 6:22:17 AM

So with the election day tomorrow, what part of the day does the next POTUS get announced?

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Lost in Space
#148996: Nov 7th 2016 at 6:23:36 AM

The election call will come tomorrow night, most likely, after polling stations begin to close on the east coast. Unless it's very close, or there are major shenanigans, there should be a result before midnight EST. Whether both candidates will accept that result is a different question.

edited 7th Nov '16 6:27:27 AM by Fighteer

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AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#148997: Nov 7th 2016 at 6:25:48 AM

GOP strategist: Clinton will win — but Congress won't work with her

Replace Clinton with Obama and her with him and nothing changes, really.

Inter arma enim silent leges
Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#148998: Nov 7th 2016 at 6:31:39 AM

Yeah, the Republican side of Congress and the Senate are literally not doing their jobs already.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#148999: Nov 7th 2016 at 6:31:41 AM

The 2012 election was called for Obama between 11 and 11:30 EST.

http://www.ew.com/article/2012/11/06/president-barack-obama-election-2012-called-times

Clinton could be called the winner if she takes a few important eastern states (like NC, or Florida). If Trump underperforms in Ohio that's another cause for an early call.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#149000: Nov 7th 2016 at 6:44:04 AM

Yeah, the Republican side of Congress and the Senate are literally not doing their jobs already.
... You do realize that the Senate is just part of the Congress, right? I think you wanted to write "the House" instead of "Congress".

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.

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