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pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Cape Malleum Majorem
#148676: Nov 5th 2016 at 5:56:25 PM

Trump's narrative of this was that Obama was screaming at the protestor and attacking him in a way that, if Trump did the exact same thing, the media would describe as very aggressive.

That's what Trump would have done in that situation. He has this annoying habit (among others) of projecting his own faults onto his opponents, while conveniently overlooking them in himself or flat-out denying that they even exist.

The man is way beyond a pathological liar; he lives in his own separate narcissistic reality where he's perfect, he can do no wrong, he always wins, and the world revolves around him.

edited 5th Nov '16 6:01:49 PM by pwiegle

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Lennik (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#148677: Nov 5th 2016 at 6:04:38 PM

Trump has just been rushed off the stage in Nevada. I don't have a link, because I'm watching it on CNN as we speak.

edited 5th Nov '16 6:05:01 PM by Lennik

That's right, boys. Mondo cool.
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#148678: Nov 5th 2016 at 6:14:05 PM

Apparently, there are unconfirmed reports of a man with a gun in the crowd.

Edit: They've detained a white man in his 30's or 40's.

edited 5th Nov '16 6:15:19 PM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!
smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#148679: Nov 5th 2016 at 6:15:19 PM

I though Trump wanted to make sure people could carry guns anywhere they go? Surely Trump was safer with that man in the crowd!

Lennik (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#148681: Nov 5th 2016 at 6:28:03 PM

Well when you plant the idea in Second Amendment people's heads that they can solve their domestic political problems with violence, you might inspire a nutcase to try to solve his domestic political problems with violence.

That's right, boys. Mondo cool.
tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#148682: Nov 5th 2016 at 6:29:07 PM

The ACLU is suing the city of Santa Fe, Texas for running a modern day debtors prison.

In July 2015, the Galveston County town of Santa Fe was facing a budget shortfall of more than $600,000, so city officials got together to dig themselves out of the hole. The fire marshal suggested charging new fees for state-required inspections. The police chief scaled back plans to buy new SU Vs. And Municipal Judge Carlton Getty decided to raise fines by 10 percent.

Getty’s plan worked out pretty well for the town of 12,000 — and horribly for poor defendants who spent days in the city jail before seeing a judge, according to a federal lawsuit filed Thursday by the ACLU of Texas. By raising fees and nearly doubling the warrants issued for failure to pay, the city raised $225,562 from tickets in a year, according to the complaint, more than $20,000 higher than the previous year’s take.

The fee hike, according to ACLU attorneys, is just one piece of the city’s comprehensive strategy to extract as much money as possible from defendants, even those who can’t afford to pay. The city’s policies, the suit claims, have turned the Santa Fe City Jail into a “modern-day debtors’ prison,” where defendants languish until they can come up with more money, or sit out their debt at a rate of $100 a day.

“This city runs an appalling, modern-day debtor’s prison that is both unconstitutional and devastating to low-income members of its community,” said ACLU of Texas attorney Trisha Trigilio in a statement. Along with its lawsuit Thursday, the group announced a new report on similar arrangements across the state, including a list of 15 other cities that don’t provide court hearings before issuing warrants for nonpayment.

Santa Fe City Manager Joe Dickson told the Observer he couldn’t comment yet because the city hadn’t yet been served.

Supreme Court rulings and Texas law prohibit jailing a person for their inability to pay a fine, but many cities still operate de facto debtors’ prisons. A 2015 Buzz Feed News investigation revealed that judges in El Paso routinely jail poor people for failure to pay their fines; in April, the practice prompted a suit from the Texas Civil Rights Project. Amarillo, Austin, Mc Allen and Tyler have all been the subject of similar complaints in court and in the press.

The lawsuit filed Thursday describes an especially robust system for coercing defendants to pay the city’s fines, whether or not they can afford them. According to the suit, police routinely bring defendants to the city jail and leave them there for days. Texas law requires police to bring defendants before a judge “no later than the next business day after arrest,” according to the complaint, but many sit in the city jail for days.

State law says defendants are entitled to a hearing on their ability to pay, in which a judge must consider alternatives like community service or monthly payment plans, but according to the complaint, defendants in Santa Fe hardly ever receive one. Defendants might assert their rights more often if they had a lawyer, but the city’s website makes it clear that in municipal court, “No attorney will be appointed for you.”

Those who can’t pay must settle their debt with jail time, and the complaint details dangerous conditions defendants must endure: a lack of medical care, minimal supervision and a 720-calorie-a-day “starvation diet” of “one Pop Tart for breakfast, one Pop Tart for lunch, and [a] frozen meal, such as a Hungry Man frozen dinner, at night.” To his credit, the complaint says, “the [Police] Chief varies the flavor of Pop Tart and the type of frozen meal.”

On August 16, according to the suit, a woman in the jail alerted the city marshal that she “had not been fed for some time. … The Police Department supervisor on duty was completely unaware that this person had been booked into the jail.”

One popular argument against jailing people for not paying debts, beyond its unconstitutionality, is that mass incarceration can be so costly. That, at least, is less of a concern in Santa Fe. According to the lawsuit, the police department spends $4.11 a day on jail supplies, including food for all of its inmates — just a little more than the $3.84 it spends on its canine officer, Hondo.

edited 5th Nov '16 6:29:39 PM by tclittle

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
Shippudentimes Since: Dec, 2012
#148683: Nov 5th 2016 at 6:31:17 PM

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/729226/Donald-Trump-security-alert-nevada-reno-rally-assasination-attempt-lone-wolf-attack

Short version, someone tried to launch a solo assassination attempt on Trump in a rally in Reno, Nevada, got close to the podium, but was taken down by security before he could pull the trigger.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#148684: Nov 5th 2016 at 6:35:35 PM

I wonder, would something like this possibly boost Trump's numbers, lower Hilary's, or both?

Lennik (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#148685: Nov 5th 2016 at 6:36:29 PM

Fucking hell, would people stop giving that racist Oompa Loompa ammunition?

That's right, boys. Mondo cool.
pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Cape Malleum Majorem
#148686: Nov 5th 2016 at 6:37:06 PM

Hopefully this will serve as a wake-up call, although I doubt it. Presidents and other high-profile figures get attacked all the time. Can you stand the heat, Donald?

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XanderCrews Since: Oct, 2010
#148687: Nov 5th 2016 at 6:39:40 PM

Reports of an actual assassination attempt are UNCONFIRMED. If he had a gun that means he somehow got it past a metal detector, and security likely wouldn't have let Trump back on stage if security had been breached like that.

Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#148688: Nov 5th 2016 at 6:44:19 PM

The Express is one of the worst tabloids in the UK, right up there with The Sun and The Mail (The Express is owned by a UKIP donor).

Wait for a more reliable news source to report what actually happened and why.

edited 5th Nov '16 6:44:55 PM by Wyldchyld

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#148690: Nov 5th 2016 at 7:18:26 PM

Fingers crossed that this turns out to be a Trump supported trying to bring his gun so as to protect Trump from Clinton's ninja assassins.

edited 5th Nov '16 7:29:37 PM by Silasw

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LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#148691: Nov 5th 2016 at 7:30:51 PM

Apparently, the person disturbing the rally did not have a gun after all, or at the very least it is not confirmed that he did have one.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#148692: Nov 5th 2016 at 7:36:48 PM

Re: 538, the problem is that Nate Silver set his model up for a sane election. This election is not sane, so he's pretty much stabbing in the dark and not sure where or how he should skew his polls.

BonsaiForest Since: Jan, 2001
#148693: Nov 5th 2016 at 7:43:38 PM

Why angry white men love calling people "cucks". Source: GQ

In 2016, the word “cuck” resonates with white nationalists who feel as though their country has been taken away from them, and not enough had been done by the cuckservative establishment conservative party to protect it. “Cuck” is a concept borne out of insecurity: a fear that one is inadequate, sexually or otherwise, and that inadequacy will lead to the loss of the things that are important to him.

And it’s becoming increasingly obvious: these men have lost. They have watched the first black president elected into office twice become a positive symbol for the progress and promise of our nation, both domestically and overseas; they have watched women join the workplace and become empowered enough to speak out at the injustices they face. They have watched as a “politically correct culture run amok” has made it socially unacceptable to be racist in public.

But here is Donald Trump who says what he thinks no matter how many people call it sexist or racist, who promises to build a giant wall to keep non-white people out of the country, who makes being in charge seem easy. Trump doesn’t require a nuanced understanding of politics or statistics or complex trade agreements. He will say whatever he’s thinking. And in this election, he’s also appealing to a base instinct, something hardwired after generations of pernicious cultural feedback: a confident man knows better than a woman.

Because after all, what is being cuckolded but humiliation at the hands of a woman? The cuckolded man is at the mercy of a woman to choose to be with him or to be with someone else; she chooses the other as a punishment for his sexual inadequacy. If one’s insults represent their own fears, those who call others a cuck do so in the desperate hope that shreds of their own masculine and racial prominence can be protected.

When their party’s political candidate can retweet images from neo-Nazi websites and call the Jewish head of the DNC “highly neurotic” without reproach, when he can quite literally launch his political career by accusing our nation’s first black president of being born in Africa, when he can rank women on a scale of 10, call them fat pigs, say you need to “treat them like shit,” and still not take a hit in the polls, the angry white men who use the word “cuck” can exhale, safe in the understanding that, even if only for a few more years, their views are still shared by millions of other Americans. They will go on calling others “cucks,” pretending they’re not afraid of their own impotence.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#148694: Nov 5th 2016 at 8:05:50 PM

I'm posting this because I think it's a legitimately clever way to get this message across.

TheWanted Since: Oct, 2013
#148695: Nov 5th 2016 at 8:23:22 PM

[up][up] bawhaha, that's hilarious. [lol]

I mean, seriously? People really think that?

[up] dear lord, I forgot just how cringeworthy that Hillary moment was. I know it was probably a rehtorical question, but asking who made Pokemon go? It didn't just suddenly spring forth from the ether Hillary. Its an IP that a company invented and cultivated.

But nice hurricane of puns

edited 5th Nov '16 8:33:28 PM by TheWanted

pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Cape Malleum Majorem
#148696: Nov 5th 2016 at 8:31:08 PM

Being confident can't compensate for ignorance and incompetence.

Reminds me of an episode of Red Dwarf, where Dave Lister's sense of confidence gained a life of its own. It looked and acted like an obnoxious 1970s lounge lizard, and made such inane boasts as: "Who needs a space helmet in space? Oxygen is for losers!"

edited 6th Nov '16 4:26:22 AM by pwiegle

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Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#148697: Nov 5th 2016 at 8:34:31 PM

One Homeland Security source confirms that there was no gun found at that Trump rally, and the person in question merely tried to raise a sign.

I wonder what sort of lines of sight can be established in halls like these anyway...

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#148698: Nov 5th 2016 at 8:39:09 PM

I wonder what the sign said.

Do not obey in advance.
AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#148700: Nov 5th 2016 at 8:43:43 PM

@The Wanted

People really think what? That losers on the Internet throw around terms like "cuck" because they're subconsciously aware of their own inadequacy and are desperately projecting? Yes. Yes we do think that. The alt-right and its associates are a "movement" (boy do I use that term loosely) based on rampant insecurity and a need to bring everyone down to their own level.

edited 6th Nov '16 7:17:31 AM by AmbarSonofDeshar


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