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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#148376: Nov 3rd 2016 at 6:19:28 PM

Actually, the FBI doing this stuff this late, when many have already voted, would seem to have very little effect on the outcome.

I mean, seriously, we don't get to change our votes once they're in, so why bother leaving something to just the week before, when many have already done the early voting?

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#148377: Nov 3rd 2016 at 6:20:25 PM

CNN has a poll that has Trump and Clinton neck and neck in Georgia. I think talks of Trump's impending rebound have been somewhat overstated.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/03/politics/trump-clinton-georgia-arizona-poll/index.html

[up][up]How is the reputation of this guy?

edited 3rd Nov '16 6:21:29 PM by Rationalinsanity

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
thatguythere47 Since: Jul, 2010
#148378: Nov 3rd 2016 at 6:38:25 PM

Kurt did some respectable work while at the new york times (IIRC) but I don't recall him doing anything major as of late.

@early voting: certain states allow you to switch your vote and last I checked roughly 15 million votes had been cast but we're expecting more then 100 million this election, probably closer to 130.

Is using "Julian Assange is a Hillary butt plug" an acceptable signature quote?
theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#148379: Nov 3rd 2016 at 6:46:27 PM

You know I'm actually thinking about going to my university's Election Party that they're having Tuesday just so I can gloat somewhere if Hillary wins.

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#148380: Nov 3rd 2016 at 6:46:50 PM

[up][up][up]Kurt's done a large part of Newsweek's investigative journalism on Trump, which has unearthed some pretty unsettling things about Trump.

It begins?

edited 3rd Nov '16 6:47:21 PM by Krieger22

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#148381: Nov 3rd 2016 at 6:46:51 PM

So, Rachel Maddow did some exclusive with Newsweek and their newest Trump bombshell. Apparently, the Russians are explicitly backing Trump, but stopped around the Khan attack because the Kremlin assumed that THAT was the killing blow and would force Trump to drop out or he'd collapse so utterly that any money spent would be wasted.

They turned out to be wrong and then resumed trying to subvert our democracy.

New Survey coming this weekend!
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#148382: Nov 3rd 2016 at 6:51:23 PM

OK, I just have to ask: Why does the Democratic Party have so much trouble getting a majority in either of the Congress's chambers, let alone both of them? What does the GOP have on them in Congressional elections?

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#148383: Nov 3rd 2016 at 6:52:18 PM

[up][up]Does anyone think this will be enough to offset Clinton's decline, or will it just rebound off Trump like everything else has except for Pussygate?

edited 3rd Nov '16 6:52:37 PM by kkhohoho

Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#148384: Nov 3rd 2016 at 6:52:31 PM

The Senate, mostly because Demcrats don't really vote so much in non-presidential elections. The Congress, gerrymandering. Pretty much just gerrymandering.

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#148385: Nov 3rd 2016 at 6:55:31 PM

[up][up] It was freshly brewed. And the old lady who filed the suit only wanted enough to cover her medical expenses, but her lawyer blew it up and turned it into a class-action suit and won millions of dollars.

It wasn't freshly brewed: they kept all their coffee in a storage tank that was far hotter than it needed to be, and frankly it was a miracle that no one had been seriously injured earlier (including the employees handling it). It was a pretty open and shut tort case of negligently endangering others that's gotten mutated into something by people who never actually read the details of the case. It was literally in my torts textbook back in school.

edited 3rd Nov '16 6:56:02 PM by Clarste

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#148386: Nov 3rd 2016 at 6:57:09 PM

[up][up]... And Democratic voters think they're lack of participation in non-presidential elections is good, why? Do they seriously think that the POTUS is the end-all-be-all of politics in their country?

Also, why the hell is gerrymandering even legal in the first place?

edited 3rd Nov '16 6:57:24 PM by MarqFJA

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#148387: Nov 3rd 2016 at 7:01:49 PM

Because the people drawing the districts are the same as the people making the laws about it.

CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#148388: Nov 3rd 2016 at 7:03:42 PM

Gerrymandering is an abuse of the powers of state governors to redistrict every ten years according to the census. It's so that congressional borders reflect population distribution. Seeing as the term was named after a Founding Father, the practice permeates American politics.

Democrats don't participate as much because the campaign groundgame is really poor in midterm elections, whereas the state-level GOP is basically an electoral murder machine.

edited 3rd Nov '16 7:06:23 PM by CrimsonZephyr

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#148389: Nov 3rd 2016 at 7:10:10 PM

[up][up][up] They don't ban Gerrymandering it because until recently both sides did it relatively equally, if I recall Crash Course showed several states are still unfairly slanted towards the Dems. As for why the Democrats don't vote, I think the better question is why do Republicans vote. And it's because they have a stronger sense of duty, obligation, and a sense of spite. My mom lives in Westchester, a pretty liberal area in a pretty liberal state. Yet every November she'd go out and vote. She did it to stick it to the Dems, and because it was her duty. Dems by contrast don't believe in such things. They are driven more by logic and narrative. Logically they know voting in some areas is statistically useless, and will share and Adam Ruins everything vid to prove it. Republicans would consider such a vid blasphemous against our glorious exceptional American democracy, and go off to cast their "useless ballots." If there's one thing to admire about the Republicans it's that they are tenacious and dedicated, something Democrats could stand to learn from.

Now in order to get the Democrats to vote, they have to be inspired. They have to feel like there's a narrative, a real big story that they are being swept up in. Otherwise they'll get bored and just not vote.

I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#148390: Nov 3rd 2016 at 7:11:04 PM

Holy shit.

Per MSNBC again.

70% of the total Florida vote for the entire election could be in by Sunday.

O.o

New Survey coming this weekend!
NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#148391: Nov 3rd 2016 at 7:19:38 PM

If that 30 point lead is True, LOL, Rubio is Fucked beyond all recognition.
Not at all — much of Florida's Hispanic population is Cuban, who largely vote Republican and certainly support Rubio (who is himself Cuban) in large numbers. The polls have consistently shown Rubio in the lead, though that lead has been steadily narrowing.

Why does the Democratic Party have so much trouble getting a majority in either of the Congress's chambers, let alone both of them?
The Democrats are very likely to get a majority in the Senate (but not a filibuster-proof supermajority), while the House is much harder for them to get because many state governments are controlled by Republicans, who gerrymandered themselves safe congressional districts, which won't be redrawn until after the 2020 census.

And Democratic voters think they're lack of participation in non-presidential elections is good, why?
They don't, but Democratic voters are far more likely to be working-class minorities than GOP voters, while GOP voters skew more toward rich people and retirees. It's thus much easier for GOP voters to get registered to vote and actually make it to the polls on election day, and non-presidential elections get much less attention than presidential elections simply due to the nature of the beast (presidential elections get a lot more attention because it's a single highly visible nationwide vote), which means Democratic turnout on presidential years is invariably higher than non-presidential years.

Also, why the hell is gerrymandering even legal in the first place?
In many places, it's not, but when the GOP controls state government and draws gerrymandered districts anyway, someone has to sue them to get the gerrymandered district map thrown out, and that case goes through the court system with judges appointed by Republican governors, so it's an uphill battle.

In other news, I voted today. Spent a bunch of time researching downballot races, ended up voting for a straight Democratic ticket anyway because (surprise!) the Democrats reflected my preferred positions much better than the Republicans. I sort of feel like I could have saved some time and just skipped straight to "vote for the person with the (D) next to their name".

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#148393: Nov 3rd 2016 at 7:29:49 PM

Remind me how many votes impeachment requires, again?

Oh God! Natural light!
thatguythere47 Since: Jul, 2010
#148394: Nov 3rd 2016 at 7:31:45 PM
Thumped: Please see The Rules . This is a warning that this post is the sort of thing that will get you suspended.
Is using "Julian Assange is a Hillary butt plug" an acceptable signature quote?
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#148395: Nov 3rd 2016 at 7:34:53 PM

[up][up][up]... OK, this is damn terrifying. Why the hell isn't anyone doing something to put those loons in a goddamn prison instead of leaving them flagrantly defy/subvert democratic principles and clear-cut court orders?

Democrats don't participate as much because the campaign groundgame is really poor in midterm elections
But why?! The campaign is done by the party, right? Why are they slacking off on it???

edited 3rd Nov '16 7:36:50 PM by MarqFJA

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#148396: Nov 3rd 2016 at 7:35:51 PM

This "bombshell" isn't going to do a thing if the media isn't reporting it. Until they declare it credible, its nothing more than hot air.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#148397: Nov 3rd 2016 at 7:36:36 PM

[up][up][up][up][up]

"To Protect all enemies Foreign and Domestic."

I think GOP are about to dangerously cross the line into Domestic enemies of the state.

edited 3rd Nov '16 7:36:44 PM by TacticalFox88

New Survey coming this weekend!
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#148398: Nov 3rd 2016 at 7:37:03 PM

Going back to a previous topic, why are the FBI and police unions so full of Trump supporters?

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
True colors
#148399: Nov 3rd 2016 at 7:38:32 PM

Likely due to his opposition to the Black Lives Matter movement.

The Crystal Caverns A bird's gotta sing.
LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#148400: Nov 3rd 2016 at 7:41:39 PM

Why the hell am I getting so many Trump ads here in California?! Do they honestly expect to have a chance here?

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison

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